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troung
09 Nov 06,, 20:21
Suicide Bomber Kills 42 Pakistani Soldiers

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Nov. 8 — A suicide bomber detonated explosives on a military training ground in northwestern Pakistan on Wednesday morning, killing at least 42 army recruits and wounding about 20 more in the deadliest terrorist attack against the Pakistani military on record, government officials said.

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At least 35 soldiers were killed and dozens were wounded after a suicide bomber blew himself at a military training base in Dargai in northwestern Pakistan, military officials said.
Suspicion immediately fell on Pakistani militants who had vowed vengeance for an airstrike on a madrasa, or religious school, that killed 83 people near the Afghan border in the Bajaur district on Oct. 30.

The Pakistani military claimed responsibility for that attack, which it said was against militants in terrorist training. But residents and opposition politicians contend that the strike was conducted by an American drone aircraft, though the Pakistani government denies it.

The sudden escalation of casualties in Pakistan’s fight against militants is likely to further polarize public opinion, which is already broadly opposed to President Pervez Musharraf’s cooperation with the United States and his military campaign against tribes in border regions. It may also raise questions in the military about the campaign, in which about 600 soldiers have been killed in the past two years.

Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao said a suicide bomber wrapped in a shawl ran onto the military training ground, in Dargai, a town in North-West Frontier Province, and detonated his bomb amid about 130 recruits around 8:40 a.m. The military reported that 42 soldiers had been killed, but that number may rise, because some of the wounded were in critical condition.

“It was a guy with a short beard, wearing a shawl,” Khalid Mehmood, 18, a student who was walking on a road nearby and was wounded by shrapnel, told a local journalist.

Gulam Younas, a shopkeeper across the parade ground, said he was working when he heard a big explosion. “Amidst the rising dust, I saw bodies lying on the ground, wounded soldiers, limbs, shoes,” he said. “It was horrible.”

The military was pursuing a man suspected of being an accomplice Wednesday night who was chased to sugar cane fields several miles away. The man, described as in his mid-20s with a short beard, had been was spotted close to the scene of the blast by townspeople who said he was behaving suspiciously, military and security officials said. When someone fired on him, the officials said, he pulled out a hand grenade and threatened to hurl it at them, then disappeared into fields in a nearby village.

About 400 Pakistan Army soldiers and paramilitary Frontier Constabulary set up a cordon around the thick cane fields, which cover a little more than a square mile. Army tracking dogs, helicopters, searchlights and flares were brought in to help.

An unidentified caller told a local journalist on Wednesday that “Pakistani Taliban” were behind the suicide bombing and were retaliating for the airstrike in Bajaur on Oct. 30. The strike has been followed by daily demonstrations and protests against the government and the perceived American involvement in the strike. At least one militant leader from the Bajaur area, Maulana Faqir Muhammad, threatened to carry out revenge attacks.

Government officials in Islamabad, the capital, said Wednesday that the suicide bombing was linked to Bajaur, but emphasized that rather than a revenge attack, it was a proof of terrorist training in the region.

“We can trace back the linkage with Bajaur,” said Maj. Gen. Shaukat Sultan, the chief military spokesman, Reuters reported. “We have been receiving intelligence reports about militants being trained for such activities,” he said.

“It is linked with the Bajaur incident. It is not a consequence,” said Mr. Sherpao, the interior minister. “It is linked in the sense that suicide bombers were trained in the area.”

Foreign fighters and operatives for Al Qaeda are known to be at large in the mountainous tribal regions adjoining Afghanistan. Local fighters and the militants are accused of training bombers and orchestrating attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan from their hide-outs.

A senior Pakistani intelligence official said Monday at a briefing that the madrasa in Bajaur had been receiving money from Al Qaeda to train militants and send them to Afghanistan to fight American and Afghan forces. Abu Faraj al-Libbi, an important Qaeda operative who was arrested in May 2005, disclosed under interrogation that he and other Qaeda members had visited the madrasa, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The anonymous telephone caller on Wednesday, who called the journalist Rahimullah Yusufzai of The News, a national newspaper, said that the suicide bombing had been carried out by a group led by Abu Kalim Muhammad Ansari, an otherwise unknown figure. The caller contended that the group had 274 more volunteers ready to be suicide bombers, Mr. Yusufzai said.

Yet while Pashtun tribesmen in border areas have sympathized with the Afghan Taliban and Al Qaeda, suicide bombing is new to them. Many Pashtuns say such attacks are alien to their tribal code, Pashtunwali, which forbids the killing of innocent people, and to their understanding of Islam, which forbids suicide.

General Musharraf has vowed to continue to fight such militants and to crush terrorism in almost daily comments since the Bajaur strike. Yet the suicide bombing is likely to increase the pressure on him to end military action in the tribal areas.

“There are very few now who think the military is an instrument that will work,” said Talat Masood, a military analyst and retired general.

Ismail Khan contributed reporting from Peshawar, Pakistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/09/wo...FA&oref=slogin

krishna
10 Nov 06,, 09:42
very sad

Tronic
10 Nov 06,, 15:57
not for me...

Hari_Om
10 Nov 06,, 16:27
Looks like the Pakistani’s are trying to foist the blame for this incident onto the Afghans, specifically the Afghan intelligence agency Khedamat-e Etelea'at-e Dawlati (KHAD) :

PAKISTAN: AFGHAN SPIES BEHIND BLAST, SECURITY SOURCES SAY (http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Security&loid=8.0.357688534&par=)

ainspiron
10 Nov 06,, 23:26
Case of fratricidal killing.

lemontree
11 Nov 06,, 05:37
From the analysis written in various periodicals. They all point towards the following:

1. The Pak-Taliban-Tribal peace deal had left the Taliban free to concentrate against the Coalition forces in Afghanistan. The number of attacks increased. This threatened US/coalition interests in Afghanistan.

2.The US wanted to ensure that another peace deal that was expected to be signed between Bajur tribal leaders and the military along the lines of an accord signed earlier in Waziristan.

3. That attack has been carried out by US Predator UAVs and not PA cobras.

4. This attack in Dargai has blown the earlier peace deal in Waziristan to shreds. Exactly what the US wanted.

Tronic
11 Nov 06,, 16:00
I don't really care who's behind it, its about time Pakistani blood spills this way, the same way they have been busy trying to spill Indian blood in Kashmir. If the US did it, hats off to them; if KHAD did it, then hats off to them too...

Green_Man
12 Nov 06,, 12:51
You indians better start watching you back now, the hunt is on , you are in cohorts wiht anti-pakistan elements in Afghanistan , and not to worry retribution is just around the corner

Samudra
12 Nov 06,, 13:38
Why the hell are you blaming India ?


Suspicion immediately fell on pro- Taliban militants who vowed revenge for an airstrike on a madrasa last week that killed at least 80 people in the Bajaur tribal region to the northwest.

The government claimed that the school was being used to train pro- Taliban guerrillas, but local residents said almost all the victims were children or teenagers.

Several hours after the suicide attack, an unidentified man telephoned a Pakistani journalist, Rahimullah Yousafzai, in Peshawar and claimed responsibility.

The man said "Pakistani Taliban" had carried out the bombing to avenge the attack. He identified the group's leader as Abu Kalim Muhammad Ansari.


'Pakistani Taliban' take credit for blast (http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/09/news/pakistan.php)

Tronic
12 Nov 06,, 15:14
You indians better start watching you back now, the hunt is on , you are in cohorts wiht anti-pakistan elements in Afghanistan , and not to worry retribution is just around the corner
lol... haha... retribution.... what can Pak possibly do? Place some bombs in some more trains to kill some more innocent people? And when real men come out to fight, go run and start humping your nukes? :rolleyes:

Ray
12 Nov 06,, 19:05
I hope not too many are killed this way.

It will not auger well for the WoT in which Pak is the frontline ally.

Ray
12 Nov 06,, 19:07
Greenman.

Turning green with envy over India?

Green diarrhoea is a dangerous ailment!

You must see Imran Khan's Walk the Talk on NDTV!

What a joke PAKISTAN is, if one goes by what he says!

His advise is that you watch your back!

Islamic history is filled with a whole lot of backstabbing including within the immediate family! ;)

Ray
12 Nov 06,, 19:21
Greenman,

How come this Taliban Joe commited suicide to knock off the brave Pak soldiers..

“Suicide is forbidden in Islam,” your president said. He was speaking to a large audience after inaugurating the four-lane Lahore-Sheikhupura-Faisalabad dual carriageway on Saturday.

Check your papers!

Now you Islamists go inflaming the issues and then you inflame yourself, by lighting up with explosives.

And you say the US has double standards.

OK. The US has double standards, for after all , in politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests.

How come, with a non interpretable religion as Islam (Quran cannot be interpreted with modern situations, being the last word), when suicide is not permissible, blokes are lighting up as human bombs.

Double standards or total religious confusion and of convenience to misinterpret Islam.

Now, who is right? The Islamic human bombs (suicide) or Musharraf?

Ray
12 Nov 06,, 20:18
Greenman.

Turning green with envy over India?

Green diarrhoea is a dangerous ailment!

You must see Imran Khan's Walk the Talk on NDTV!

What a joke PAKISTAN is, if one goes by what he says!

His advise is that you watch your back!

Islamic history is filled with a whole lot of backstabbing including within the immediate family! ;)

Green_Man
12 Nov 06,, 23:56
HAHHA You cowardly Indians start wetting your pants anytime you hear the word 'Islam' or 'Pakistan' , alomost comical to see.

24/7 barfing on the internet is not going to change the reality of your pathetic existance.

'India' is not really a country its made of differet people who all should have their own country and break away from the hindu areas. Sikhs should have Khalistan and Muslims of India should have their own country , maybe call is Imanistan , the Land of Iman. For starters thats an idea for Indian Muslims to think about , break away from these , they are niether like you nor realted to you same for the Sikhs

We'll support you and Sikhs to have your own independat homeland away from hanods

The Communists in Assam and other areas will be better of with an independant Assam.

We have no desire to have peace with you , specially you hanods ( Rai , Gai , Pai types hahah )

Green_Man
13 Nov 06,, 00:03
lol... haha... retribution.... what can Pak possibly do? Place some bombs in some more trains to kill some more innocent people? And when real men come out to fight, go run and start humping your nukes? :rolleyes:

Real men need 'khusray' to collect taxes fro them :biggrin:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6134032.stm

Tronic
13 Nov 06,, 00:35
HAHHA You cowardly Indians start wetting your pants anytime you hear the word 'Islam' or 'Pakistan' , alomost comical to see.

24/7 barfing on the internet is not going to change the reality of your pathetic existance.

'India' is not really a country its made of differet people who all should have their own country and break away from the hindu areas. Sikhs should have Khalistan and Muslims of India should have their own country , maybe call is Imanistan , the Land of Iman. For starters thats an idea for Indian Muslims to think about , break away from these , they are niether like you nor realted to you same for the Sikhs

We'll support you and Sikhs to have your own independat homeland away from hanods

The Communists in Assam and other areas will be better of with an independant Assam.

We have no desire to have peace with you , specially you hanods ( Rai , Gai , Pai types hahah )

yea... form seperate countries so they can just be some more failed nations like Pukistan here??? errmm... no thank you.....


Real men need 'khusray' to collect taxes fro them

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6134032.stm
errmm... so? Should we get some wacko Mullah or Imam to turn into a screaming Mary??? :rolleyes: I know persecution of other people is probably a norm in Pakistan but things just don't work that way...

Akshay
13 Nov 06,, 01:40
HAHHA You cowardly Indians start wetting your pants anytime you hear the word 'Islam' or 'Pakistan' , alomost comical to see.

How do you know? Do you go around smelling their pants to check? Or did you care to smell your General's pants? Last I heard he emptied his bowels in his pants after America's 'Bombing to stone Age' threat.


24/7 barfing on the internet is not going to change the reality of your pathetic existance.

Neither is 24/7 ranting of kalmas in your local madarsa and bending over 5 times a day going to change your pathetic existance.


We'll support you and Sikhs to have your own independat homeland away from hanods

The Communists in Assam and other areas will be better of with an independant Assam.

60 years of support to Kashmir hasn't yielded an inch.. on the contrary gave birth to parallel Bangladesh. Pakistanis can do better by first learning to save what they've got. Couldn't save Bangladesh, Siachen, Chorbaatla... and yet big talks of supporting Sikhs & Assam. Sikhs & Assamese wouldn't need support of an ally which hasn't got a backbone.


We have no desire to have peace with you , specially you hanods ( Rai , Gai , Pai types hahah )

Who cares about this piece of peace with a nation which isn't even worth a p!ss

bull
13 Nov 06,, 06:34
I hope not too many are killed this way.

It will not auger well for the WoT in which Pak is the frontline ally.

Bhwah!!! who is bothered abt pakistan and Wot anyways.

The world still doesnt recognise India's WoT and it is been fought in a different plain .

If Talban decided to train its gun on paksitan then well and good.They both will be engaged with each other and our soldiers can have a better time in kashmir.

667medic
13 Nov 06,, 08:11
Isn't this against the tenets of Islam for the momeen to kill each other:confused:

Ray
13 Nov 06,, 11:01
HAHHA You cowardly Indians start wetting your pants anytime you hear the word 'Islam' or 'Pakistan' , alomost comical to see.

24/7 barfing on the internet is not going to change the reality of your pathetic existance.

'India' is not really a country its made of differet people who all should have their own country and break away from the hindu areas. Sikhs should have Khalistan and Muslims of India should have their own country , maybe call is Imanistan , the Land of Iman. For starters thats an idea for Indian Muslims to think about , break away from these , they are niether like you nor realted to you same for the Sikhs

We'll support you and Sikhs to have your own independat homeland away from hanods

The Communists in Assam and other areas will be better of with an independant Assam.

We have no desire to have peace with you , specially you hanods ( Rai , Gai , Pai types hahah )

Not really old boy.

Read Musharraf and see how he whines.

Every war you launch cuts you to a smaller size.

You may soon become a postage stamp!

Ray
13 Nov 06,, 11:04
Isn't this against the tenets of Islam for the momeen to kill each other:confused:

Momeen is for the birds.

Islam is a saga of power struggle.

Islamic history is full of power struggle where self comes before even the family!

It start from the irrelevance of the Sunni Shia internecine fratricide right down to the history of Pakistan (as per Musharraf and his acclaimed book).

Ray
13 Nov 06,, 11:08
Check this:

http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/showthread.php?t=24979

This is also a power struggle!

And what an issue! :shock:

They just can't agree even if they are to pray together!

And what happens if there is cloud cover for day on end?

All will tug their beards to see if the Moon surfaces and then someone will con the crowd to satiate the hunger!

What is so important about the Moon? If the Moon is the be all and end all, does it not mean some sort of a moon worship and hence idolatry?

Allah should be the sole symbol of belief and symbol too is idiolatry!

Attachment should be to Allah alone. So why this attachment to the colour green? Blasphemy. Idolatry! Greenman! Hrummph! Idol worshipper?!

Tronic
13 Nov 06,, 12:42
Bhwah!!! who is bothered abt pakistan and Wot anyways.

The world still doesnt recognise India's WoT and it is been fought in a different plain .

If Talban decided to train its gun on paksitan then well and good.They both will be engaged with each other and our soldiers can have a better time in kashmir.
Actually, the "WoT" is more like "WoME (War on Middle East)". "WoT" is just a propagandish name, given by America to their little spark in ME. There are countries out there that have been fighting the real war on terror, and have been at it for much longer then America.

Ray
13 Nov 06,, 20:11
That means the frontline ally is another sop to make Pakistan look the oddfsh in the Moslem world.

Bush has really captialised on Moslems looking silly to Moslems and going for each other's throat!

Power hungry people rise to the bait!