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Canmoore
20 Oct 06,, 22:26
From the Ottawa Sun, October 20, 2006


As Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Environment Minister Rona Ambrose are finding out today, the problem with trying to do something about pollution is the expectation that cleaning up the air we breathe can be done overnight.

That's hardly surprising, given some of the vague promises and "action plans" offered up by the previous federal government and the demands coming from well-intentioned advocacy groups.

But the reality is that, just as today's dirty environment has taken decades to get that way, so too will there be some time required to undo the damage that has been done.

In a perfect world, we suppose,

everybody could stop using their automobiles tomorrow.

We could all stop heating our homes and offices with oil and natural gas. We could ground airplanes and bring industry to a halt.

We could huddle together for warmth in caves that we hew out of the sides of hills.

But of course we are not going to do any of that. We're not going to bring our industrialized society to its knees or learn overnight to get by without our tools and transportation and other conveniences of a modern society.

Which means that for the foreseeable future we have to learn how to do all those things in a more responsible manner so we are spewing less and less poison into our environment.

That was the intent of yesterday's clean air agenda introduced by the Harper government. But judging by the response of critics you'd have thought the PM had suggested fogging the entire country with coal dust.

The NDP called the Tory strategy a "hot air plan."

The Sierra Club slammed the vehicle emissions plan as too little too late.

"There is really no news here," sniffed Green party Leader Elizabeth May.

But actually there is. The Conservatives resisted the urge to promise nice-sounding but largely unattainable short term targets for cutting greenhouse emissions (can you say Kyoto Accord?) and opted in favour of realistic goals that will seek to cut emissions by 45-65% between now and 2050.

Who wouldn't want to banish all our environmental pollution with the simple wave of a wand? But this is a gigantic problem that calls for a long-term solution. The Tory plan is at least a start.

highsea
20 Oct 06,, 22:37
Lol. The liberals in Canada were so proud of ratifying Kyoto, I remember all the smack talk about the US rejecting it. We were just a bunch of evil money-grubbers, destroying the earth for our own profit. Now instead of reducing greenhouse emissions by 6%, Canada finds they have increased by 24%!

And you can't expolit the oil sands without pushing that number up a lot higher (which means stiff penalties under Kyoto).

See ya later, Kyoto Protocols....:tongue:

Lol. It was just a thinly veiled wealth redistribution scheme anyway. Rob from the rich countries and pay to the poor ones.

Canmoore
20 Oct 06,, 22:46
Today i was listening to the Radio, Chez 106, while working. And the morning radio hosts were lambasting Harper and the conservatives new plan on the environment. Apparantly alot of people in this country, think that all that is in order is a snap of the fingers and the problem is gone.

No one stops to think that in doing so, Canada's economy would come to a screaching halt, hundreds of thousands of people would be out of work.

Koyoto however good the intentions were, was just to impractable. The NDP and Liberals chastized Harper from pulling the plug on Koyoto, but in reality the only way that we would be able to reach our Koyoto comitments, was if we were to remove every single car, train, truck. And then undermine the very Industries which keeps Canada a modern industrial country to a point where Industry everwhere in this country would collapse.

The only other alternative that Canada had to to keeping our commitments to Koyoto, would be to spend billions upon billions of dollars on developing countries, such as china, to fund there environmental programs.. while both Chinese and Canadain Industry emits more and more pollutants.

Harper was right to pull the rug out from under Koyoto.

The Liberals for 13 years, preached about how good Canada is at keeping its commitment to Koyoto, all the while critisizing the US for not being apart of Koyoto.
All the while, doing nothing to curb pollution. Infact, pollution increased under the Liberals who were preaching Koyoto!!!

This is because even the Liberals knew that Koyoto was just to impractable to follow through on. However the Liberals are slimy enough to keep up the image about how green they were for being apart of Koyoto, while sweeping the fact that pollution is going up, under the carpet.

The Conservatives, have set in paper a system that WILL work with Industry. This is a plan that CAN work. And yes it will take time, but at least it is something.

If the Left really cared about the Environment, they would pass this act through parliament, instead of looking for political points by canning it.

Canmoore
20 Oct 06,, 22:54
Lol. The liberals in Canada were so proud of ratifying Kyoto, I remember all the smack talk about the US rejecting it. We were just a bunch of evil money-grubbers, destroying the earth for our own profit. Now instead of reducing greenhouse emissions by 6%, Canada finds they have increased by 24%!

And you can't expolit the oil sands without pushing that number up a lot higher (which means stiff penalties under Kyoto).

See ya later, Kyoto Protocols....:tongue:

Lol. It was just a thinly veiled wealth redistribution scheme anyway. Rob from the rich countries and pay to the poor ones.

This reminds me of a something i heard on the Lowell Green show, a local news talk radio show here in Ottawa.

A caller said that to the NDP and Green party, North Korea is a future goal for Canada.

He then told lowell green about a Satalie photo of the Korean peninsula, taken at night. It shows South Korea, ablaze in lights dotting the country. Then just accross the border in North Korea, is total darkness, only a single spec of Light that is Pyongyang

HAHAHA!! oh man i got a real kick out that one

gunnut
20 Oct 06,, 22:57
That's the liberal socialist's way of solving problems, pass a law against it and tax it. They think the problem will disappear if there's a law against it or a tax on it.

I recall reading an article on the signatories of Kyoto and how they are doing nearly 10 years after the accord. The biggest polluter is Spain (by percentage). The US, while didn't sign the stupid treaty, did not increase pollution as fast as many of the signees.

gunnut
20 Oct 06,, 22:59
Ever noticed that the "non-nuclear" movement in the 70s by the green hippies led directly to the astronomical use of fossile fuel for power generation?

Canmoore
20 Oct 06,, 23:14
Its like watching a retard trying to play jenga.