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John_James
02 May 04,, 13:28
Hello,


With the Assault Weapons ban expiring in Septmember I was thinking about doing some shopping for a new rife. I wanted to get something I could take deer hunting. I am looking for a sniper rife and I was wondering if any of you could recommend any good ones. I want to spend under $1000 and I want something that I could get with a bayonet and cleaning kit. I was looking at a Dragnov and I was wondering what others I should check out. I really like shooting military guns, I have a Chinese SKS and a Russian AK and now I want something I can go long range with. Do you gentlemen have any suggestions?

God Bless America and Protect Our Brave Young Men in the Services,


John James

Bill
03 May 04,, 04:48
Druganov is OK, but does not measure up to real sniper rifles.

Getting a good sniper rifle for 1000 dollars is not very realistic. Expect to pay at least 1500.

The Springfield M-1A is an excellent rifle, very similar to the US M-21 and M-25 sniper rifles.

A surplus WWII M-1D sniper rifle might be the cheapest way to go, i don't really know what they go for. The M-1A and M-1D both have-or can be fitted with- bayonet lugs.

John_James
07 May 04,, 00:41
Hello,

What are some good ones that use 7.62X39 ammunition and are around $1000 - $1500?

John James

Officer of Engineers
07 May 04,, 03:29
Hello,

What are some good ones that use 7.62X39 ammunition and are around $1000 - $1500?

John James

RUGER-14, beats all the commie stuff hands down - provided that you use Winchester, Remington, Colt, etc ammo (ie high quality stuff and not the steel casing, corresive powder crap from the former commie block).

Confed999
07 May 04,, 05:09
RUGER-14,
I think it's the Ruger mini-30 that uses 7.62, I have a mini-14, it's 5.56. I like Ruger, good guns.

Officer of Engineers
07 May 04,, 05:28
I think it's the Ruger mini-30 that uses 7.62, I have a mini-14, it's 5.56. I like Ruger, good guns.

My mistake. I stand corrected.

John_James
10 May 04,, 03:21
Thank You Gentlemen,


Thank you for your input!!! I am wondering about the possibility of getting a Dragnov and having a gun smith resize it to take the 7.62x39 ammunition. IF and I do mean IF I bought the gun that is what I would probably end up doing to it. Do any of you have any ideas and or comments of the cost/effictivness of doing this?


God Bless America And Our Young Men In The Services,


John James

Bill
11 May 04,, 19:51
"What are some good ones that use 7.62X39 ammunition and are around $1000 - $1500?"

7.62x39 is a VERY poor sniping cartridge.

Take my word for it, i know a little about the subject.

I consider 7.62x51 to be the MINIMUM acceptable cartridge for sniping work.

I consider .25-06 to be nearly ideal for the sniping role.

Hawk_eye
14 May 04,, 02:53
"What are some good ones that use 7.62X39 ammunition and are around $1000 - $1500?"

7.62x39 is a VERY poor sniping cartridge.

Take my word for it, i know a little about the subject.

I consider 7.62x51 to be the MINIMUM acceptable cartridge for sniping work.

I consider .25-06 to be nearly ideal for the sniping role.

Well said, personally i find the winchester 308 a decent round, yet they have been some problems with 7.62 one being the simple fact: high penetration, Low velocity..*Compared to 5.56 nato rnd

:(
Otherwise, i am a 7.62 fan :)

Bill
14 May 04,, 04:53
The .308Win aka 7.62x51 does have a low muzzle velocity. If memory serves correctly the 147gr M118 cartridge has a muzzle velocity of 2650fps.

Not much of a temporarywound cavity compared to the earlier M193 5.56x45mm rd.

The newer M855 round is heavier(62gr vs 55gr) than the old M193, so has a lower muzzle velocity of around 1,850fps from an M-16A2 with a 1:9 twist bbl.
So the M855 isn't all that great wrt the TWC either.

leib10
27 Mar 05,, 06:26
You ought to try an FAL or a G3. They're about $350-500, and accurate enough weapons for what you will probably be using them for, though not as good as Spingfield Armory M14-clones.

jame$thegreat
29 Mar 05,, 22:08
A friend of mine is intrested in buying a CHEAP 9mm have any ideas? i was telling forget it and get a ruger mini 14 or a glok because he wont be at the range very often, just something to fool around while his .44 is at the gunsmith

leib10
29 Mar 05,, 22:34
Get a Spanish Star pistol. They're only about $130 and they serve their purpose well enough.

jame$thegreat
30 Mar 05,, 01:27
Get a Spanish Star pistol. They're only about $130 and they serve their purpose well enough.

lookin for something a little more easily available like glok, beretta or ruger

leib10
30 Mar 05,, 04:46
Then expect to pay a lot more. Rugers usually go for about $250-$300. Glocks and Berettas are more expensive.

Bill
30 Mar 05,, 16:00
The Ruger 9mm pistols are cheap and reliable.

You can probably get a used one for around 300 bucks.

TexasOutlaw
30 Mar 05,, 21:22
For a cheap...realiable 9mm I would look at the Hi-point line
9mm w/ compensator will run about 150.00...available at most gun stores and pawn shops..


Here (http://www.mkssupply.com/) is the link for their website

Beaugeste93
31 Mar 05,, 01:38
For a fairly inexpensive "sniper" looking gun. Consider a Finnish Moisin-Nagant rifle. They're much more accurate than Soviet ones. You could get a turned-down bolt handle and mount a surplus soviet scope and get the "enemy at the gates" faux-sniper rifle that will do ok at moderate ranges. Also, surplus7.62 x 54 R ammo is about as cheap as 7.62 x 39.

sniperdude411
31 Mar 05,, 13:01
Try a Cheytac Intervention m200 rifle in .408. They're nly about $3 per round and $11,000 per gun. They're also possibly the most accurate sniper rifles ever made.