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troung
16 Aug 03,, 00:01
Figured this would be a light compasrion of 2 South American air forces.....

I figure no one has a bone in this fight so it would less hostile to discuss.

As of now they seem to be in an arms race...........

Peru (FAP)

Air Defense Fighters
22 MiG-29S/SE/UB

Multi Role Fighters (Modern)
12 Mirage 2000EP/DP

Multi Role Fighters (Old)
16 Mirage 5P/DP

Ground Attack Fighters
44 Su-22M-3K/UM-3K
18 Su-25K/UBK

Bombers
10 Canberra

COIN
25 A-37B

Jet Trainers
13 MB-339AP

Prop Trainers
28 EMB-312 (Tucano)
14 T-41

Transports
5 C-130B/E
21 An-32
18 DHC-6

Attack Helicopters
22 Mi-24D

Transport Helicopters
36 Mi-8/17
6 Mi-6
30 Bell 205/212/214/412

Liaison Helicopters
23 BO-105

AAM
R-77E
Super 530D
R-27R/T
R-73E
Magic II
R-60MK

ASM
Exocet
AS-30L

SAMs
SA-2/3/6/7/9/14/16

Plans
MiG-29 upgrades (all models to SE model)



Chile (FACH)

Multi Role Fighters (on order)
12 F-16C/D Block 52

Multi Role Fighters
15 F-5E/F
16 Mirage 50CN

Ground Attack Fighters
22 Mirage 5BA

COIN
20 A-36 (C-101)
28 A-37B (to be replaced by F-16C/D)

AWACS
1 Phalcon

Jet Trainers
16 T-36 (C-101)
21 T-37

Prop Trainers
78 T-35A/B (Pillian)

Transports
4 C-130H
14 DHC-6
2 Y-7 (An-24)
4 C-47

Transport Helicopters
10 Puma
13 UH-1H

Liaison Helicopters
6 BO-105
5 MD-530F

AAM
AIM-120B (on order, to be stored in USA?)
Python 4
Magic II
AIM-9M (on order)
Python 3
Shafir II
AIM-9P

ASM
AGM-84 (on order)
AGM-65D/G (on order)

SAMs
Stinger, Redeye, Mistral (dont know what other types)

Plans
the 12 F-16s on order
looking at E-2 AWACS (not statified with the Phalcon)


Notes

FAP
MiG-29SE fitted for R-77E
MiG-29S fitted for R-27R/T
Mirage 2000E fitted for Super 530D and Magic II along with French PGMs
Mirage 5P fitted for Magic II
Su-25K fitted for R-60MK
Su-22M fitted for R-60MK

Peru lost the Cenepa valley air war with Ecuador in 1996 before it got it's Mig-29s and Su-25Ks. It lost 4 planes (Su-22 and A-37) in dogfights, and several more to SAMs (Blowpipe) and held back it's Mirage 2000EPs.

FACH
F-5E fitted for Python 4 and use M-2032 radar
Mirage 50s can carry Magic II or Python 3 and use M-2032 radar
Mirage 5s carry Magic II
All thier Mirages have canards


I would say now the FAP has the edge but the F-16s could wiht ease change things.


Any comments?

Gio
16 Aug 03,, 00:02
hehe, chile hasn't fought a war in like a hundred years..

Last time they did, Bolivia ended up with no coast line. :confused:

And yeah, the FAP looks like it has the edge big time.

ChrisF202
16 Aug 03,, 00:05
It depends who has better training

bigross86
16 Aug 03,, 19:41
If it all hinges on Air Supremecy, then it'll be the Air Force who's pilots take more risks and pushes the envelope to achieve the mission objective