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Jay
13 Aug 03,, 06:07
Guys,
guess u wudnt mind me posting about IN :)
IN's newest frigate.... INS Talwar's (Krivak III).....just inducted......

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar01.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar02.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar04.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar06.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar07.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar09.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar10.jpg

rahul007
13 Aug 03,, 14:18
More pics of the Talwar

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar03.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar05.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar08.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar09.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar13.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar15.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/Temp/talwar/talwar16.jpg[/list]

ChrisF202
13 Aug 03,, 14:33
I got a question maybe this should be in another thread, but does India have a marine corps or naval infantry type unit?

rahul007
13 Aug 03,, 17:35
I got a question maybe this should be in another thread, but does India have a marine corps or naval infantry type unit?

Yes the Indian Navy does have a force of marines. Unlike the US marines they operate under the Navy. The force consists of about 2000 marines which includes the MARCOS (Marine commandos~ spec ops). The Naval Air Arm has ~ 5000 personnel.


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ChrisF202
13 Aug 03,, 17:50
I was wondering because not many Asian nations seem to have marines/naval infantry.

rahul007
13 Aug 03,, 23:21
I was wondering because not many Asian nations seem to have marines/naval infantry.

I am not sure about Asian nations in general but I think the Pakistani Navy also has a marine force.

ChrisF202
13 Aug 03,, 23:30
I was wondering because not many Asian nations seem to have marines/naval infantry.

I am not sure about Asian nations in general but I think the Pakistani Navy also has a marine force.

Looked it up and dident find any trace of one

bigross86
13 Aug 03,, 23:31
Unlike the US marines they operate under the Navy

To the best of my recollection, the USMC is a part of the USN, and therefore operates under the USN.

rahul007
14 Aug 03,, 00:40
Looked it up and dident find any trace of one

Maybe it is the search engine, but Pakistan does have a Marine force. The link below is a report of a recent excercise that the USMarines and the Pakistani Marines held in Pakistan.


http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/lookupstoryref/200231382320[/quote]

rahul007
14 Aug 03,, 00:43
To the best of my recollection, the USMC is a part of the USN, and therefore operates under the USN.

I am pretty sure that the marines do NOT operate as a part of the USN. Many Marines recruiting officers trying to recruit me recently at my school. The Navy had different recruiting officers with completely different uniforms.

chang
14 Aug 03,, 21:41
China has a marine force I don't know how it compares to indian I know chinese marines have better equipment.

Bill
14 Aug 03,, 23:16
The USMC is a subsidiary of the USN.

That's why all their ships are manned by USN sailors, there're Marines on every US Naval surface vessel, and why Navy Corpsmen act as Marine medics.

One big happy family.

rahul007
17 Aug 03,, 13:23
Some mroe images of the Talwar:

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Talwar11.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Talwar12.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Talwar15.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Talwar18.jpg

bigross86
17 Aug 03,, 13:55
Did you know that the US Marines were founded in a tavern in Boston in 1775? They were than disbanded by the US government, and re-founded and sworn in in 1778.

Jai
19 Aug 03,, 20:39
China has a marine force I don't know how it compares to indian I know chinese marines have better equipment.

You don't know how it compares to India but you know they have better equipment... :confused:

Care to elaborate?






Maybe it is the search engine, but Pakistan does have a Marine force. The link below is a report of a recent excercise that the USMarines and the Pakistani Marines held in Pakistan.

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/lookupstoryref/200231382320

I find it ironic that Marines from India Company were the ones involved in the exercises.

bigross86
19 Aug 03,, 23:11
That must have been fun introducing themselves. "Hi, we're India Company. Don't shoot!!!"

Jay
20 Aug 03,, 00:31
Ther's gonna be a big naval exercise (USN/IN) "Operation Malabar" in couple months. Any one know any details about it?? Like the vessels thats gonna participate and stuff like that!!

bigross86
20 Aug 03,, 00:46
I tried doing some research (It was hard.) Turns out there have been at least four Malabar exercises since the early 1990's, but I can't seem to find anything pertaining to an exersise later this year or earlier on next year. Neither the USN official website (www.navy.mil) nor the Indian Navy Official Website (http://indiannavy.nic.in) Showed any results when I tried searching for "Malabar". Conclusion: I don't know.

Jay
20 Aug 03,, 01:38
Thanks BR. A high level delegation is about to go to India to finalize the dates and such stuff. Let wait for it and the pics from navy website!!

bigross86
20 Aug 03,, 01:58
No prob. Just as long as nobody expects me to research anything anytime soon.

rahul007
20 Aug 03,, 14:42
A high level delegation is about to go to India to finalize the dates and such stuff.

Yep, this is usually the case. Last time they held an AF exercise in Alaska that included paratroopers from both the countries. My uncle was the IAF co-ordinator along with two other Army co-ordinators. I got to know of the exercise at least a month before the news came out officially.

bigross86
20 Aug 03,, 16:49
Cool. Question: is the Barak missile that the IN uses of Israeli origin?

BruteGorilla
20 Aug 03,, 17:05
September 2002 Excercise nippets:
4th one!
The U.S. Navy was represented by the Ticonderoga class guided-missile cruiser USS Chancellorsville (CG 62), the Spruance class destroyer USS Paul F. Foster (DD 964), and a P-3C patrol and reconnaissance aircraft. During the exercise, the two navies worked together in a variety of skill areas, including cross-decking of helicopters, formation steaming, coordinated gun shoots and anti-submarine warfare training.

The Indian Navy deployed a larger weaponry with a submarine, a destroyer, a frigate and a tanker as well as maritime aircraft.


AFIK it included a manoeuvre called “turnaround” that was centred at the US base in Diego Garcia. In the manoeuvre, ships got to port and were replenished with fuel and ammunition within a short deadline. “Turnaround” demanded a high degree of naval interaction.

bigross86
20 Aug 03,, 17:14
The USN brought two ships and a plane? That's it? I thought these were large scale exercises.

rahul007
20 Aug 03,, 20:05
Question: is the Barak missile that the IN uses of Israeli origin?

Yes

bigross86
20 Aug 03,, 20:35
Thought so, but I wasn't sure.

BruteGorilla
21 Aug 03,, 10:36
Yep! only few ships and planes. They weren't supposed to be large scale.

bigross86
21 Aug 03,, 10:46
Have the USN and the IN ever had any large scale exercises?

rahul007
21 Aug 03,, 16:35
Have the USN and the IN ever had any large scale exercises?


Not as far as I know.

rahul007
21 Aug 03,, 19:53
Here are some pics from the Air Arm of the Indian Navy:

FIXED WING AIRCRAFTs:

Harriers

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Harrier5.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Harrier7.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Harrier20.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Harrier25.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Harrier23.jpg

HAL Kiran Jet trainers

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Kiran05.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Kiran04.jpg

IL-38 patrol aircraft

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Il-38c.jpg

Dornier Do-228

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Do228h.jpg

PILATUS BRITTEN-NORMAN BN-2B/T ISLANDER

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Islander3.jpg

Lastly,
TUPOLEV TU-142 BEAR-F

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Tu-142d.jpg

rahul007
21 Aug 03,, 19:56
HELICOPTERS OF THE INDIAN NAVY:


Sea King MK 42 carrying the Sea Eagle AShM:

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Seaking12.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Seaking16.jpg

HAL CHETAK (ALOUETTE III)

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Chetak7.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Chetak9.jpg

KAMOV KA-28 HELIX-A

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Ka-28c.jpg

bigross86
22 Aug 03,, 10:29
Cool pix.

rahul007
22 Aug 03,, 13:52
Cool pix.

Thanks :)

bigross86
22 Aug 03,, 14:00
What systems/weapons has Israel sold to the Indians aside from the Barak missile and the Phalcon radar system?

rahul007
22 Aug 03,, 16:31
What systems/weapons has Israel sold to the Indians aside from the Barak missile and the Phalcon radar system?

I think Israel is rite now the largest arms supplier to India after Russia. It has sold a lot of stuff to India with regard to UAVs, radars, etc. Some of them are:

UAVs:
Searcher
Heron
Harpy Anti-Radar (?)

Radars:

Greenpine
Elta Fire Control Radars (don't know the exact models)

Upgrade programs:

The Mi-25 Hind of the IAF has been upgraded by IAI of Israel with new night vision devices, FLIRs, avionics, etc. The Hind is now night capable and suitable for all weather missions.

The Su-30MKI has been fitted with a variety of Israeli, French and Indian avionics.

The Israelis have offered to jointly market the ALH (Advanced Light Helo) of HAL with a few modifications to the avionics.

In 1996, a contract was signed with Elta to upgrade the maritime attack variant of the Jaguar with the EL/M-2032 multimode fire control radar.

Assault rifles:

I think India recently signed a contract for the supply of Israeli Tavor Assault rifles and the Galil sniper rifles.

ZFBoxcar
22 Aug 03,, 16:38
wow, the IDF doesnt even have Tavors yet, although they have signed an order for 20,000.

bigross86
23 Aug 03,, 18:58
Do you know what model Searcher UAV? The latest is the Searcher 4, but I don't know if we'd sell that yet.

rahul007
24 Aug 03,, 00:03
Do you know what model Searcher UAV?

Nope. Though here is a picture of it in Indian Navy Service:

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Searcher.jpg

bigross86
24 Aug 03,, 09:24
That looks like the Searcher 4, but I'm not sure.

rahul007
29 Aug 03,, 03:50
Here comes the next installment of pictures:

Sailors taking a break from the hectic life aboard a destroyer

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images2/Volleyball.jpg

Submarines of the Indian Navy

KILO CLASS:
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Kilo11.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Kilo6.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Kilo10.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Kilo14.jpg

rahul007
29 Aug 03,, 03:51
Submarines (cont.)

HDW 209 Class

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Shishumar10.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Shishumar9.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Shishumar1.jpg

bigross86
29 Aug 03,, 09:50
What happens when the ball goes over?

rahul007
30 Aug 03,, 00:53
What happens when the ball goes over?

oh well, time to get another. :G

bigross86
31 Aug 03,, 12:05
And when they run out of balls? Rescue mission to get the balls?

Jay
31 Aug 03,, 19:28
i guess they'r good in SAR :roll:

bigross86
31 Aug 03,, 20:02
Well, if they suck at volleyball they have to be good at SAR...