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Canmoore
13 Sep 06,, 21:47
click (http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/09/13/montreal-witness.html)

One gunmen has been gunned down by SWAT teams, a second shooter is believed to still be hiding out in the college. The shooters are descbribed to be "gothic" with black trenchcoats, black boots and mowhawks.

Bill
14 Sep 06,, 00:08
Erm, i thought these sorts of weapons were illegal in Canada?

From the Article:

"And when you have 20 police running at you with guns you really know that your life is in danger."

Aint that the truth...

leib10
14 Sep 06,, 01:18
All it said was a "really big rifle" and that they fired multiple shots without reloading. Anybody know exactly what it was?

Officer of Engineers
14 Sep 06,, 01:41
CTV news reported a witness stated that it was a big laser gun or a SWAT gun. Whatever that means.

Bluesman
14 Sep 06,, 01:43
It means the nugget they asked had no clue.

Bill
14 Sep 06,, 02:18
It means the gun was banned.

HOW was that man able to acquire a banned weapon?

Doesn't he know it was BANNED?!?!?!!?

I am feeling mighty indignant that a criminal would ignore a law that outrightly bans the possession of such arms, even by law abiding citizens. What was he thinking? Very uncivilized behaviour i say. That lad needs anger management and tolerance classes. And a great big leftist group hug while we all sing Kum-By-Ah and hold hands.

In the mean time, we will ban the ammunition the weapon used too.

Confed999
14 Sep 06,, 02:51
My prayers for the victims, their family, and friends,,,

Bill
14 Sep 06,, 03:03
Good point....yes, me too.

My deepest condolences to the victims. :(

leib10
14 Sep 06,, 04:06
Yeah, I think we initially missed the point. My prayers for the victims and their families.

Canmoore
14 Sep 06,, 04:20
ok so now that the facts are in.

2 people are dead, one 19 year old woman is dead, along with the shooter who was shot down by the police.

19 people are injured and 8 are in critical condition, with various wounds to the Head, Chest, Abdomen, and limbs.

I can hear it now...the left will use this as a reason to keep the long gun regestry alive. Problem is that the shooter had three weapons. Two semi-automatic weapons and a pistol. Semi-automatic weapons are illegal without special permits, pistols are also illegal without a liscence. So these weapons were illegal, so they have no relevance to the long gun regestry...which SHOULD be scrapped.

dalem
14 Sep 06,, 06:10
Was he screaming "Allah'u Akhbar!" while he murdered?

-dale

Officer of Engineers
14 Sep 06,, 06:17
Semi-automatic weapons are illegal without special permits, pistols are also illegal without a liscence. So these weapons were illegal, so they have no relevance to the long gun regestry...which SHOULD be scrapped.

Hold it right there. Those are completely incorrect. Semi-auto weapons are complete legal. Assualt weapons are not ... which are listed by model types. Semi-auto AK-47s are illegal but Type-59s (Chinese semi-autos AK-47s with a thumb hole instead of a pistol grip) are not.

Pistols require a registry ... and has been the case for a very long time.

The question is are these legal weapons obtained through legal means and registered with the proper authorities ... or are these black market illegal weapons?

Repatriated Canuck
14 Sep 06,, 12:11
Hold it right there. Those are completely incorrect. Semi-auto weapons are complete legal. Assualt weapons are not ... which are listed by model types. Semi-auto AK-47s are illegal but Type-59s (Chinese semi-autos AK-47s with a thumb hole instead of a pistol grip) are not.

Pistols require a registry ... and has been the case for a very long time.

The question is are these legal weapons obtained through legal means and registered with the proper authorities ... or are these black market illegal weapons?

I'm willing to bet legally aquired weapons but not his own. Gun control is stupid anyway as I can go home to Surrey and get a gun in a day for 50 bucks and I was once offered a nice stolen chrome barreta shotgun for the low price of 250 CDN. I didn't buy it as I'm not the buy illegal stolen weaponry type.

Canmoore
14 Sep 06,, 16:29
click (http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/09/14/gunman-shooting.html)

This dude called himself the "angel of death"

The weapon he had was a Cx4 Beretta Storm carbine.

ChrisF202
14 Sep 06,, 17:23
Any idea on the motive?

Very sad incident but banning guns will not solve this problem. Lets say that my neighbor got hit by a car, do we then go and ban all cars or whatever type of car hit him/her? No thats silly, same story with guns.

leib10
14 Sep 06,, 17:25
And of course, they're saying it was an AK47 that was used. It's ALWAYS an AK47 to them. :rolleyes:

kams
14 Sep 06,, 17:26
A young Indo-Canadian identified as Kimveer Gill went on a shooting spree inside Dawson College in central Montreal Wednesday afternoon, killing one woman and injuring 19 before being gunned down by the police.
The victim has been identified as Anastasia DeSouza, 18. At least six of the injured are said to be in a critical condition.

Reports in the Toronto Star and Le Press, a French daily from Montreal, say Gill, dressed in black, parked his car outside the college gate around 12.45 pm, took out three guns, including an automatic rifle, out of the trunk and walked into the campus cafeteria and began firing indiscriminately. All three weapons were legally registered.

Panic-stricken students rushed into nearby classrooms and barricaded themselves.

The police arrived within minutes, and when the man responded to the call to put down his weapons with an obscenity, he was shot dead. While the police have not officially named him, the Canadian dailies have identified him as Kimveer Gill, 25.

He is said to have frequented a Gothic cult website, www.vampirefreaks.com, which is full of anti-establishment rhetoric and abuse.

The Toronto Star says his website reveals Gill was born in Montreal on July 9, 1981, and is of Indian heritage.

'With a weakness for laziness and a fear of nothing', 'his goal for this year was to stay alive with a self-deprecating dig at his most overused phrase on instant messenger being heavy Metal Rul3z,' it says. He hated authority figures like police, principals and teachers and singled out `jocks' for bullying.

In his online diary in which he reportedly made his last entry at 5 a.m. (Tuesday), he says, `It's not only the bullies fault, but the principal's fault for turning a blind eye .It's the police's fault for not doing anything when people complain (ooooops) my mistake, the cops are corrupt sons of whores, so it's not like they can do anything about it. F..the police.'

He describes Natural Born Killers, as his favorite movie, and lauds the Tec-9 semi-automatic handgun, lamenting that it was not legal in Canada.

`Work sucks . school sucks . life sucks . what else can I say?' he says.

Soon after the shooting incident, there were rumours that there were three men involved, and that they had targeted women and minorities. There were also reports of the killer having used a machine gun, and of gunshots in a nearby mall. All the reports were false.

But the fear among the students and their parents was real.

Dipti Gupta, a teacher at Dawson into whose class the panicked students had rushed for shelter, recalled one student who thought she had grazed her leg while fleeing. It turned out be a bullet wound. Gupta and some of her students tried to soothe her while urging her to stay quiet lest the gunman heard the screams and came after her.

'If you can make sense of this, let me know,' says a headline in the Globe and Mail today.

At the moment, no one can.

Indo-Canadian behind Montreal school shooting (http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/14jain.htm?q=tp&file=.htm)
The link has a pic of the idiot holding the rifle. Whats with these guys and Gothic culture? Shooting just for the heck of it. Disgusting creature.

leib10
14 Sep 06,, 17:35
All those Goths are freaky pieces of shiit, and this jerk supports my point.

dalem
14 Sep 06,, 18:06
Ahh, okay, he was just a run of the mill moronic piece of trash. Glad the cops capped him.

-dale

kams
14 Sep 06,, 18:15
Ahh, okay, he was just a run of the mill moronic piece of trash. Glad the cops capped him.

-dale

Too late I am afraid. Couple of months back NJ cops arrested 3 kids who were planning a school shooting spree. Those nuts were in to gothic **** too.

Canmoore
14 Sep 06,, 19:54
The list of critically wounded people is down from 8 to 2 now. 2 patients are in very critical condition in a montreal hospital.

This lunatic was a 25 year old loner who lived with his parents. He played a game based on the columbine shootings, he had a web blog on a webisite called vampirefreaks.com.

A quote from his last blog on the site "Work sucks School sucks Life sucks What else can I say?...Metal and Goth kick ass. Life is like a video game, you gotta die sometime."

this guy was ****ed up in the head

Due to quick reaction from police who were already at the campus for an unrelated drug search, many more lives were saved. This freak didnt know what he was doing, he quickly cornerd himself between vending machines, and police were able to slowly move in on him, and eventually cut him down. Had this freak known what he was doing, with the amount of firepower he had, this could have been ALOT worse.

God bless the QPP.

ChrisF202
17 Sep 06,, 01:30
Lucky for those students, took the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office 45 minutes to even get a single SWAT trained deputy to Columbine. Why dident the 1st responding patrol deputies just grab a shotgun/rifle and clear the building themselves?