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Ironduke
25 Aug 03,, 08:28
http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/LBOX/mini/767010.jpg

Looks like we're missing a couple of our buddies though :(

bigross86
25 Aug 03,, 10:28
If you mean the Canadians, I agree with you, it's :-(
If you mean the French, than it's a very large :-)

ChrisF202
25 Aug 03,, 13:37
ahh freedom standing togeather

bigross86
25 Aug 03,, 13:59
Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!

Lunatock
25 Aug 03,, 14:30
United we stand. Divided you fall.

bigross86
25 Aug 03,, 16:13
So either way they lose?

Ironduke
25 Aug 03,, 16:35
If you mean the Canadians, I agree with you, it's :-(
If you mean the French, than it's a very large :-)
I mean the Canucks and the Kiwis.

Ziska
04 Sep 03,, 10:19
Yeah well, New Zealand has changed. They are fast forgetting who their true friends are.

I don't know much about Canada, but any country that jails a minister for preaching that other religions are wrong is in trouble in my book.

bigross86
04 Sep 03,, 10:22
Australia also arrested someone like that a while ago, didn't they? Some female politician...

Ziska
04 Sep 03,, 11:06
wow, you heard about that in Israel?

Pauline Hanson was the co-founder of Pauline Hansons One Nation Party back in '95, and ran on a strong anti-immigration ticket. Of course she was immediately accused of nine types of racism, and copped a huge amount of flack. One Nation did incredibly well for a new party, grabbing 23% of the vote in the Queensland state election (The northeastern one).

Anyway, the major political parties (The Liberals, who are very similar to the US Republicans or UK Tories, and Labour) did some fancy political manouvering and either copied One Nation policies or bullied voters away from them.

A couple of elections later, and One Nation was finished, internal divisions leaving them utterly useless. Unfortunately, they couldn't leave it at that, and Pauline and One Nation co-founder David Ettridge were sentenced to 3 years prison without parole for electoral fraud.

Boy did the SHTF when that hit the papers. People from all sides of the political divide were outraged.

See, by law in Queensland, a political party needs 500 registered members for it to get funding. Hanson and Etterige gave 500 names of people who were members of the Pauline Hanson Supporters Group.

For that, a minor technicality by anyones book, they got 3 years in jail. Rapists and armed robbers have got less.

Anyway, like I said, people went berserk, and One Nation has seen a massive jump in support. Whether it will carry over to the election at the end of next year is another thing...

Now I'm a bit of a Pauline Hanson fan, but electoral fraud carries a 3 year minimum sentence, and it is a matter for the judiciary. Neither State or Federal Government can do much about it.

Hopefully she will win her appeal, but either way she wins. If she gets out, she can really milk this newfound popularity for all its worth, if she stays in, she'll be a martyr for her cause.

bigross86
05 Sep 03,, 10:11
I heard about it a bit, but some friends of mine from Australia stayed at my house for a bit and suddenly started going "No, no. I don't like it. Never did, never will." When I asked tham about it, they explained.

Ziska
05 Sep 03,, 10:38
Pauline's easy to make fun of because she doesn't have a university education and has this really nasal voice.

Still, lots of people listen to her.

bigross86
05 Sep 03,, 11:05
It was quite funny. They talk with heavy Australian accents, and the way they talked was just really, really funny.

Ziska
05 Sep 03,, 11:38
Yeah, she does sound kinda funny, and some guy made a couple of songs with samples of her in them, bagging her out.

ie, he spliced together a heap of her speeches, and made her say pretty offensive stuff. It was funny, but unfair. She sounds very... Aussie. Like Paul Hogan or Steve Irwin, but female.

Ironduke
05 Sep 03,, 12:36
I remember when John Howard and George W. Bush had a joint conference when they were at the Texas ranch....


Anyhow, Bush talked for awhile.... then Howard talked. I thought this guy would start speaking in something like an English accent, but his accent was totally messed up. He sounded like Bugs Bunny,

bigross86
05 Sep 03,, 15:49
Do you know the name of the dude? I wanna download the songs.

Ziska
07 Sep 03,, 11:31
Yeah well, at least our leader can pronounce nuclear... :rolleyes:

John Howard has a very proper Australian accent... like an upper-class accent, if Australia can be said to have one.

The guy went by the pseudonym of Pauline Pantsdown, and the two songs are "I'm a backdoor man", and "I don't like it".

The first one got banned on the radio, so he went and made the second one.

Yeah, if you want to hear a strong Aussie accent, download those songs, as well as "United States of Australia" by Tom Gleeson. You won't get most of it, but you will get an idea of how most Aussies talk.

EDIT: Typo sweep

bigross86
07 Sep 03,, 14:40
I'm serching for those songs on kazaa, but I can't find them...:(

Ziska
07 Sep 03,, 14:50
Just try backdoor man, or back door man, and Pauline Hanson, as well as Pauline Pantsdown.

You should find it floating around somewhere. They were very popular in Australia for a while.