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TopHatter
11 Jan 04,, 19:31
Thought I'd start a new warships thread. Post whatever you have that looks dramatic, especially if you have non-USN pictures.
I'll start off with some JMSDF pictures. This is the Marusame-class.

TopHatter
11 Jan 04,, 19:47
USS Essex (LHD-2) with Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force Shimakaze (DDG-172), Myoukou (DDG-175), Hamagiri (DD-155) and submarine Natusio (SS-584)

Trooth
11 Jan 04,, 19:51
Royal Navy HMS Southampton Type 42 in what appears to be a "handbrake turn" :)
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/989593562f.jpg

TopHatter
11 Jan 04,, 19:54
A JMSDF SAG

ZFBoxcar
12 Jan 04,, 14:31
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/halifax/images/halifax12.jpg

Three Canadian warships, including HMCS Vancouver (FFH 331) and HMCS Toronto (FFH 333).


http://www.navy.forces.gc.ca/mspa_images/ship_site_images/ship_gallery/283/ship_l.jpg

Canadian Destroyer being resupplied

ZFBoxcar
12 Jan 04,, 14:39
http://www.idf.il/images/nirit.jpg

Israeli Saar 4.5 Nirit class INS Chetz

http://www.idf.il/images/ship_2.jpg

The Lahav class Saar 5 multi-purpose missile corvette

TopHatter
13 Jan 04,, 00:17
If I recall correctly, those Israeli Sa'ar V corvettes were built at Litton Ingalls Shipyard in the US.
Here is USS Midway getting ready to take on her final duty as a museum ship

bigross86
13 Jan 04,, 12:59
USS Intrepid before she became the greatest museum around, aside from maybe the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum

http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/butowsky1/images/intrepid1.jpg

TopHatter
15 Jan 04,, 05:22
Actually, I'm pretty sure that's the Intrepid early on in her (hopefully!) never-ending tour of duty as a museum ship.
It doesnt look like USS Growler and USS Edson have joined her yet, not to mention some of the more striking aircraft in her 'airwing', like the A-12 Blackbird or the Polish Air Force MiG-21 Fishbed that currently make up her composite Air Wing.
To date, the only carrier museums are made up of former Essex-class carriers, but USS Midway will soon shatter this decades-old monopoly.
The big question is, can more carrier museums be financial successful enough to survive?
There are several more carriers that might be available as museums and not all of them will be able to be supported in a fiscal sense.
mean, let's look at this logically. There are only so many carrier-capable berths on the East and West coasts of the United States and you can't have them virtually packed with museum ships. The public will only go to so many museum ships. It has to be a relatively unique experience that can't be found for hundreds of miles around.
The sad reality is, many of the decommisioned carriers will have to be scrapped in order that some few can survive as memorials to the men who served on them.
Oh man, this is depressing me just thinking about it. And to think that it was really USS Enterprise (CV-6) getting scrapped that shocking warship enthusiasts into realizing that these ships were a 'save them or lose them' proposition. After the Big E was scrapped, suddenly the public realized how precarious these historic ship's existence really

Ironduke
15 Jan 04,, 05:34
USS Fargo CL-106

TopHatter
31 Jan 04,, 23:17
USS Vincennes preparing for a TOWEX with USS John McCain

Bill
02 Feb 04,, 06:54
Fire in the hole!

Bill
02 Feb 04,, 07:04
A pic i took of the USS New Jerseys final home...

s_qwert63
02 Feb 04,, 21:52
kuznetsov:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aj.cashmore/russia/carriers/kuznetsov/kuznetsov7.jpg
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz2.jpg

TopHatter
03 Feb 04,, 00:05
Nice pics Snipe and Squirt.
I've always liked the Kuznetsov...even though I'm not a fan of ski-jumps

tomas
03 Feb 04,, 11:21
some real nice pic best is snipers one firing.

TopHatter
05 Feb 04,, 00:37
Tomas
If you like pictures of battleships, especially firing picture, continue going through the General Images section. You will find 2 threads called American Battleships and More American Battleships. Lots of great pictures there :Beer

tomas
05 Feb 04,, 10:21
thanxs i do that

Trooth
28 Feb 04,, 21:45
HMS Ark Royal on her visit to London (today as it happens).

I think the shore bound artillery needs an upgrade to take her on, though :)

http://www.btinternet.com/~paulirwin/photos/boat/arkroyal002.jpg

TopHatter
29 Feb 04,, 07:24
Oh c'mon Trooth, I'm sure that even a bronze smoothbore could do some serious damage to a carrier like Ark Royal :Beer

Trooth
29 Feb 04,, 15:11
:)

HMS Edinburgh escorting USS Nimitz

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/gallery/full/1035991011f.jpg

TopHatter
29 Feb 04,, 19:29
Another nice pic Trooth.
I always like seeing pictures of the RN and USN operating together.

TopHatter
01 Mar 04,, 01:34
Naval Review at Spithead - 1953

TopHatter
01 Mar 04,, 01:36
Spithead again

TopHatter
01 Mar 04,, 01:59
Carriers galore

Ironduke
02 Mar 04,, 03:09
USS Fargo, flagship of the Mediterranean 5th fleet, 1946.

My grandpa is firing the 5 inch guns. (approx 127mm)

He wears two hearing aids today because of the damage to his ears. Took awhile for the effects to fully kick in.

Ironduke
02 Mar 04,, 03:11
USS Fargo at Trieste, 1946. HMS Ajax was also there.

Ironduke
02 Mar 04,, 03:13
Another pic of the USS Fargo docked in Trieste.

TopHatter
02 Mar 04,, 03:34
I like those 6-inch cruisers...that lean slim greyhound look, kinda like a destroyer except for the those beautifully compact 6-inch turrets.

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 17:01
The latest and most advanced to join the US Fleet -

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 20:42
Growing up in Alameda Ca (USA) it was a very common sight seeing at least 1 , 2, or even 3 aircraft carriers docked at the NAS. Alameda was homeport to the Hornet. However, we'd be visited quite often by the Hancock, Coral Sea, Midway, The Big E (Enterprise), Oriskany, and even Ranger. In 1st photo it appears to be the Hornet, Coral Sea, and Enterprise docked picture taken in 1945.

2nd photo is of CV-12 Hornet in South China Sea circa 1954

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 20:44
Growing up in Alameda Ca (USA) it was a very common sight seeing at least 1 , 2, or even 3 aircraft carriers docked at the NAS. Alameda was homeport to the Hornet. However, we'd be visited quite often by the Hancock, Coral Sea, Midway, The Big E (Enterprise), Oriskany, and even Ranger. In 1st photo it appears to be the Hornet, Coral Sea, and Enterprise docked picture taken in 1945.

2nd photo is of CV-12 Hornet in South China Sea circa 1954

Also of note in the 2nd photo are the F2H3 Banshee's with wings-up on the flight deck.

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 20:57
:biggrin:
I am sure, all the experts know that ship ;)

http://tbma.deeptown.org/images/ship1.jpg

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 21:12
:biggrin:
I am sure, all the experts know that ship ;)

http://tbma.deeptown.org/images/ship1.jpg
It could be (AD-37) the USS Samuel Gompers, my guess.

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 21:14
It could be (AD-37) the USS Samuel Gompers, my guess.Nah, wrong navy.

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 21:14
;) AD-37 Samuel Gompers

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 21:17
On my photo is a 1st ship ever armed with a laser weapon. Hint, hint.

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 21:30
On my photo is a 1st ship ever armed with a laser weapon. Hint, hint.
Did the weapon work? If so why was it not adopted by the rest of the fleet and sold to other navies?
Or......was it just a 1 off. It worked (only in the minds of the few)but it couldn't perform as advertised (lack of quality in the design)?

I'm leaning toward option 2.

:tongue:

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 21:35
Did the weapon work? If so why was it not adopted by the rest of the fleet and sold to other navies?
Or......was it just a 1 off. It worked (only in the minds of the few)but it couldn't perform as advertised (lack of quality in the design)?

I'm leaning toward option 2.

:tongue:Equipment ended up in the US after breakup of the USSR. So, go figure. :tongue:

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 21:36
On my photo is a 1st ship ever armed with a laser weapon. Hint, hint.

Lurker, The above was just a propaganda stunt. Here's the headline that goes with the fake weapon to stir hysteria and chaos (it failed) This is my last repsones to you Lurker on this isssue.

:eek:

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 21:42
On my photo is a 1st ship ever armed with a laser weapon. Hint, hint.
Gotcha! Sorry Lurker....It's a soviet spy vessel the Kapitan Man. The story goes:

[More than four years after a suspected Russian spy ship in U.S. waters fired a laser into the eye of a U.S. Navy intelligence officer, Navy bureaucrats continue to cover up for a Clinton administration whitewash of the affair. Meanwhile, the wounded officer, Lt. Cmdr. Jack Daly, suffers constantly from debilitating laser burns to his right eye - burns he sustained while photographing the spy ship for the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI).

The incident occurred in April 1997 in the Strait of Juan de Fuca that separates Washington state from Canada. The ONI director personally had handpicked Daly to serve aboard a Canadian military helicopter tasked to monitor suspicious ships in the waterway. On his very first mission, Daly was instructed to photograph a Vladivostok-based freighter known as the Kapitan Man. The Navy considered the Kapitan Man a Russian spy ship. A Sea King helicopter, piloted by Canadian Air Force Capt. Patrick Barnes, left its base in Esquimalt with Daly aboard to fly close to the vessel and photograph its unusual antenna arrays.]

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 21:43
Lurker, The above was just a propaganda stunt. Here's the headline that goes with the fake weapon to stir hysteria and chaos (it failed) This is my last repsones to you Lurker on this isssue.

:eek:It was not a propaganda, in was it was a secret until recently.
50 MWt laser burned trough aircraft wings on a distance of 500 yards.
Ship named "Dixon". 1st laser weapon firing - 1980.

It worked as a 1st step, and I think that somebody need to do a 1st step, right?

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 21:46
Gotcha! Sorry Lurker....It's a soviet spy vessel the Kapitan Man. The story goes:
...blah.. blah
Your "expertise" suck :tongue:

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 22:02
Your "expertise" suck :tongue:
My expertise might very well. However, this single event has had no real impact on the rest of the world. There's little if any information in regards to it. Sorry Lurker - Like most of your kind, the dreams and visions of some mighty and proud country come across to the rest of the world as awkward, done on the cheap, and insignificant at best.
Again, I ask what contributions has Russian made to the rest of the world?
Please..........Just name one?

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 22:06
Again, I ask what contributions has Russian made to the rest of the world?
Please..........Just name one?
from a top of my head?

1st manned spaceflight.
1st mass produced helicopter.
1st mass produced multi-engine plane.

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 22:14
from a top of my head?

1st manned spaceflight.
1st mass produced helicopter.
1st mass produced multi-engine plane.
Ha...Ha...Ha..Ha..Ha....Ha...
That's good!

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 22:17
Ha...Ha...Ha..Ha..Ha....Ha...
That's good!
What so funny? Didn't Sikorsky and Gagarin were russians? :biggrin:

Hk40
28 Aug 04,, 22:38
What so funny? Didn't Sikorsky and Gagarin were russians? :biggrin:
No staying on topic I found that you probably should've responded with this list:

Granit Central Research Institute is a successor of the Ostekbburo (special technical bureau for I military inventions) founded under the Decree of the RSFSR Labour & Defence Council of July 18,1921.
Thanks to Granit's work, by early 1940s the USSR Navy received:

- 450mm- and 350mm-caliber wave-controlled torpedoes;

- naval aviation torpedoes dropped from altitudes of 25m to 3000m;

- interference-resistant marine USV radio communication;

- USV radio-controlled unmanned torpedo boats, bombs, unmanned flying targets (a prototype of the future cruise missiles) and unmanned submarines.

In those days, they have also laid the foundations of hydroacoustics and of the gyro science.

After the war, Granit has based on the accumulated experience ventured into developing new kinds of engineering hardware:

- surface surveillance radars for submarines;

- targeting radars for ship- and shore-based missiles;

- shipside fire control systems for torpedoes and surface-to-surface missiles;

- torpedo and missile guidance systems;

- anti-ship missile flight guidance systems,

Virtually all ships of the national Navy built after WWII, including the newest ones like Petr Velikiy, Admiral Flota Sovetskogo Souyza Kouznetstov and Admiral Tchabanenko, have weapon complexes developed at Granit.

Post-war years saw a boost in the naval missile development, and work on already the early ship-based anti-ship missile complexes resulted in successful accomplishment of absolutely new research and engineering tasks:

• the world's first underwater-launched anti-ship missile (ASM) Ametist;

• the stand-alone beyond-horizon targeting system;

• the stealthy “fire and forget” missile operation concept;

• the first mono-pulse homing head;

• the missile salvo launching.

Sorry for being so hard on ya....Your country was afterall a Super Power and did go toe-to-toe with US and Europe combind. Our countries are friends and we should all be proud of our rich heritages. Yes.

Salute!
;)

lurker
28 Aug 04,, 22:56
Salute! :)

Trooth
29 Aug 04,, 11:46
Again, I ask what contributions has Russian made to the rest of the world?
Please..........Just name one?

1st Satellite in space
1st mission to the moon (unmanned of course)
The periodic table of elements

Trooth
29 Aug 04,, 11:54
Royal Swedish Navy's Visby

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40231000/jpg/_40231559_newvisbythree2.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40231000/jpg/_40231549_visbyfour.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40231000/jpg/_40231583_visbysix.jpg

A "stealth Ship" :-

* Length: 73m
* Displacement: 600 tonnes
* Crew: 43
* Speed: 35 knots
* Hull: Carbon fibre reinforced plastic
* Cost: £100m ($184m)

The Chap
22 Sep 04,, 04:01
For any sad wanabe Admirals like wot I am: spend some bucks on a PS 2 and buy "Naval Ops Comander". The guys got them for my birthday and it's incredible fun. Go on. Don't pretend to be too grown up. Pretend it's for the kids instead. :biggrin:

smilingassassin
27 Oct 04,, 03:06
LOL sounds like a plan old Chap!

Franco Lolan
27 Oct 04,, 04:09
Lurker, can u post the whole article or link on the laser spy ship article plz. looks interesting.

TopHatter
19 Mar 06,, 18:30
Found some nice JMSDF pics

Bill
19 Mar 06,, 19:18
What are the ships that look like baby Kongous?

TopHatter
14 May 06,, 20:07
HMAS Melbourne

Dreadnought
08 Jun 06,, 18:26
I noticed this past sunday (June 4th 5:05 pm) PNRB sailed an aging destroyer down the delaware with two tugs. The contract numbers were painted over but it appeared to be either a Spruance or Kidd class. No forward guns visible on deck possible removed as she was freshly painted haze gray (not USN shade) so either she was sold to another navy or is a canidate for sinking shortly. Maybe it was going to join the Oriskany as a dive/sport fishing attraction in florida.

gunnut
08 Jun 06,, 18:45
I noticed this past sunday (June 4th 5:05 pm) PNRB sailed an aging destroyer down the delaware with two tugs. The contract numbers were painted over but it appeared to be either a Spruance or Kidd class. No forward guns visible on deck possible removed as she was freshly painted haze gray (not USN shade) so either she was sold to another navy or is a canidate for sinking shortly. Maybe it was going to join the Oriskany as a dive/sport fishing attraction in florida.

Probably a Spruance class. The Kidds are all sold to Taiwan and they would have missile rails on the deck. Could be a Spruance with VLS and gun removed so the front looks barren.

I feel bad for a lot of these Spruance ships. A lot of them have already been sunk as targets and they really weren't that old compared to some other decommissioned ships. Why sink these newer ships when there are older destroyers and frigates lying around?

Dreadnought
09 Jun 06,, 13:25
Probably a Spruance class. The Kidds are all sold to Taiwan and they would have missile rails on the deck. Could be a Spruance with VLS and gun removed so the front looks barren.

I feel bad for a lot of these Spruance ships. A lot of them have already been sunk as targets and they really weren't that old compared to some other decommissioned ships. Why sink these newer ships when there are older destroyers and frigates lying around?

Agreed, God knows Philly Naval basin has plenty of canidates laying around. I seem to think the Des Moines (CA132) will shortly join that list of canidates. I was hoping that if they were going to sink it why not off Florida with the carrier Oriskany as an added dive attraction and possibly add a sub and a few destroyers to match. Now that would be a well worth diving attraction and would probably yield tangable income to the state which could be used for emergency response resources for natural disasters such as hurricanes etc.

TopHatter
13 Jun 06,, 13:28
Agreed, God knows Philly Naval basin has plenty of canidates laying around. I seem to think the Des Moines (CA132) will shortly join that list of canidates.
Agreed, I don't think Des Moines is long for this world. :frown:

Well, at least we still have Salem.

HKDan
13 Jun 06,, 16:02
Sniper,
I am pretty sure that the ships you referred to as "baby Kongos" are Murasame Class DDGs. I dont have a whole lot of info on them, but Im pretty sure thats what they are.

Dreadnought
13 Jun 06,, 20:02
Agreed, I don't think Des Moines is long for this world. :frown:

Well, at least we still have Salem.

Hey TH cheer up atleast if they sink her off Florida it would be worth diving on along with the carrier. Anything is better then the scrap yards :)

TopHatter
13 Jun 06,, 23:54
Hey TH cheer up atleast if they sink her off Florida it would be worth diving on along with the carrier. Anything is better then the scrap yards :)
True enough.
It's a shame that Oriskany's flight deck is too deep for amatuer divers. :frown:

Dreadnought
16 Jun 06,, 18:22
True enough.
It's a shame that Oriskany's flight deck is too deep for amatuer divers. :frown:

Really? Do you know how deep her flight deck is? I am assuming that she sits upright yes?

TopHatter
16 Jun 06,, 19:21
Really? Do you know how deep her flight deck is? I am assuming that she sits upright yes?




She sits upright in 212' of water, with the flight deck around 135', and the top of the structure at 69'. A dive on the USS Oriskany does not need to be a technical dive, as there is more than enough to provide an awesome dive experience above the 100' mark.

Lots of great dive info and underwater pictures of her here
http://www.mbtdivers.com/Oriskany%20Misc.htm

Dreadnought
16 Jun 06,, 20:35
Lots of great dive info and underwater pictures of her here
http://www.mbtdivers.com/Oriskany%20Misc.htm

Excellent pics I must say TH If I lived there it would top my list of leisure things to do. :)

Dreadnought
06 Jul 06,, 16:05
A good shot of underway replentishment in the opening days of Operation Dessert Shield. Below fast support ship Sacramento (AOE-1) sneaks between Wisconsin (BB64) and Missouri (BB63) while enroute to the Med. Judging by the degree of Wisconsins #2 turrent she is either covering the battle group or loading 16" shells utilizing the turrent side arm crane to get them below to the crane ways.:cool:

Tokyo Drifter
10 Nov 06,, 12:27
nice pics !

Hoss
15 Sep 12,, 04:29
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