View Full Version : Well looks like Canada has its own cut and run bunch

09 Sep 06,, 22:41
Truely pathetic, luckily this was just a party convention and not a real vote. Otherwise the result may have not been so resounding and favorable....

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NDP delegates vote for Afghan troop pullout

The New Democratic Party has made it official party policy to oppose the current mission in Afghanistan and to call for the immediate withdrawal of Canadian troops from there.

About 90 per cent of more than 1,500 delegates voted for a "safe and immediate" withdrawal from the region, which has seen a spike in Canadian casualties recently.

Sustained applause swept over the convention floor after officials announced the vote results.

"We have a really strong show of support from our members here today," Layton told reporters following the vote.

"Now we're calling on Canadians to join with us in calling on the Harper government to change the track he's currently on with (U.S. President) George Bush."

The NDP Parliamentary caucus is now expected to come up with strategies on how to pressure the Conservative minority government on Afghanistan when it holds a retreat next week.

The party could choose to table a private member's bill or hold a vote on a non-binding motion in the House of Commons.

Layton wants all 2,000 Canadian soldiers removed from the violent Kandahar province by February. But he favours keeping the few dozen Canadians currently working on reconstruction efforts in safer northern areas.


Poll numbers suggest the mission is becoming increasingly unpopular with Canadians. But Layton's position is not unanimously supported within the party.

Manitoba's NDP Premier Gary Doer, who addressed delegates on Friday, told CTV Newsnet he supported the mission in Afghanistan five years ago and remains committed to it today.

"This is a UN exercise. The Taliban that we're fighting basically protected the terrorists that were involved five years ago in the 9-11 attack -- which included the killing of innocent victims from Manitoba -- and so I don't like any anti-military talk," he said.

Doer's comments come just two days after soldiers at Canadian Forces Base Shilo, Man., paid tribute to Cpl. David Braun, who was killed Aug. 22 by a suicide bomber outside Kandahar.

Nova Scotia MP Peter Stoffer, whose riding holds a large military constituency, also spoke out against the proposal. He called it "premature."

"What (the troops) are doing is right," he said. "We need to send the message that we love them, we care about them, and that we hope for their speedy return.

Further, he said the position fails to address what happens to Afghanistan on March 1, when there would be no Canadian troops left under an NDP plan.

But Saturday's vote showed the opinions expressed by Doer and Stoffer were in the minority.

"We need to get out of that dirty war," said Toronto delegate Barry Weisleder, who argued there's been enough debate on the issue and the time has arrived for a withdrawal.

"We don't need more consultation.

"We need to curtail expenditures which are aiding the war contractors and which are supporting a government of warlords and drug lords in Afghanistan, a government orchestrated and hand-picked by the U.S. empire ..."

Former NDP leader Alexa McDonough repeated that stability in Afghanistan cannot be achieved militarily.

"The Canadian people know there is no military solution. The Canadian people know that only through a comprehensive peace process will it be possible to bring the state and non-state actors together to begin building a democratic Afghanistan," she said.

With files from The Canadian Press

09 Sep 06,, 22:56
The NDP riding of Nanaimo, British Columbia tried to get some legislature to be debated at there upcoming policy convention in Quebec City, that basically accused Canadian Soldiers in Afghanistan of being terrorists! Luckily a few NDP'ers with an ounce of grey matter between there ears shot the legistlation down. But the damage is done.

I can call the NDP a group cowardly teat-sucking yellow bellied socialists, then take it back. But I have already said it! the damage is done.

The NDP want to pull Canada out of afghanistan, Pull us out of NATO, pull us out of NAFTA....and basically hermetically seal Canada off from the rest of the world, in order to hot-box the country and sing kumbaya while holding hands, hoping that the worlds problems go away. All the while bleeding this country to death, and robbing the Canadian taxpayer blind, in order to fund all kinds of wonderfull of social programs, so that every canadian wont have to be inconvenienced to even have to scratch there own ass!

09 Sep 06,, 23:04
I remember last election the local NDP MP personally visited my doorstep along with Peter Julien himself, at a time I was quite dis-interested in politics. My assumption was that the Liberals would hoodwink the country yet again and the PC party would fall short, that didn't happen.

I REALLY hope the NDP appeasement brigade do the same this year so I can voice my opinion about their party in person.

10 Sep 06,, 19:48
Sorry Jack, your party's not for me....

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11 Sep 06,, 05:48
These NDP guys give me the creeps... Jackass Layton is what I call him 'cause he does sound like one everytime he opens his mouth.

11 Sep 06,, 06:31
Are they seriously suggesting making peace with the Taliban and Al Qaeda:confused:

The Canadian people know that only through a comprehensive peace process will it be possible to bring the state and non-state actors together to begin building a democratic Afghanistan," she said.