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gilgamesh
21 Aug 06,, 03:39
Cleric who urged jihad to be freed from prison

Jamie Doward, home affairs editor
Sunday August 20, 2006
The Observer


An Islamic cleric who influenced at least one of the 7 July bombers and whose videos may have been seen by several of the terror suspects arrested earlier this month, is to be freed from prison in weeks.
Sheikh Abdullah el-Faisal encouraged Muslims to attend training camps so they could wage jihad on the West. He was jailed in February 2003 for nine years, reduced to seven on appeal, after being convicted of soliciting murder and inciting racial hatred. Hundreds of Muslims attended his lectures in mosques across Britain, including Birmingham, London and Dewsbury in West Yorkshire.

His trial heard recordings of el-Faisal, Jamaican by birth but living in Stratford, east London, praising Osama bin Laden. 'You have to learn how to shoot and fly planes and drive tanks,' el-Faisal told those who attended his lectures. 'Jews,' el-Faisal said, 'should be killed... as by Hitler.'

He encouraged the use of chemical weapons to 'exterminate non-believers', and exhorted Muslim women to buy toy guns for their children to train them for jihad.

He also suggested that nuclear power stations could be fuelled with bodies of Hindus , slaughtered for their 'oppression' of Muslims in Kashmir.

Videos of his lectures have been found circulating in Muslim circles in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, where police are concentrating inquiries into this month's alleged bomb plot involving airliners.

El-Faisal is eligible for parole having served more than half his sentence. The Home Office confirmed he had been served with a notice of deportation to Jamaica, signalling that he will be released in weeks - bar a successful appeal against the decision.

The prospect of a man described in court as a 'fanatic and an extremist' being freed has troubled Muslim leaders who fear he will continue to disseminate his views in Britain. 'Once he's deported to Jamaica, what restrictions will there be to prevent him spreading his message of hate over the internet,' asked Andrew Dismore MP.

In the government's official account of the events that led to the London bombings in July 2005, el-Faisal is credited with having had a 'strong' influence on Jermaine Lindsay, who blew up a tube train.

James Ujaama, a US citizen jailed for conspiring to help the Taliban in Afghanistan, was recorded asking questions at el-Faisal's lectures. Richard Reid, who tried to detonate a bomb in his shoe on a transatlantic plane, and Zacarias Moussaoui, who was jailed for life over his involvement in the 11 September 2001 attacks, are also believed to have attended the lectures. El-Faisal's fluence extended to the US, where followers set up groups marketing tapes and endorsing jihad.

After el-Faisal's conviction, Peter Clarke, head of the Metropolitan Police's anti-terrorist squad, said the case had 'nothing to do with freedom of speech', as el-Faisal claimed, 'but everything to do with racial hatred'.

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Bluesman
21 Aug 06,, 03:42
Nuke the UK.

Bill
21 Aug 06,, 04:39
Well i think it might be a good idea to nuke that cleric and his followers.

Quick, send them to Bikini Atoll!

667medic
21 Aug 06,, 05:25
I am surprised that Europe isn't extinct yet :rolleyes:

Akshay
21 Aug 06,, 05:34
Dogs are barking louder everyday but can they really bite that hard?

Karthik
21 Aug 06,, 12:02
The trouble is, those very barks seem to awaken and incite other hounds bent on causing more violence.

Bill
21 Aug 06,, 17:17
So far they've 'bitten' about 10,000 people worldwide.

Yeah. They can bite.

Tronic
21 Aug 06,, 17:24
and yet 10,000 is still a very understated number...

SLASH
21 Aug 06,, 17:36
So far they've 'bitten' about 10,000 people worldwide.

Yeah. They can bite.

Hundreds of muslims die in Shi'a Sunni conflicts every week.They can't get enough of each other and talk of world domination.Compare the reactions of Arab leaders over war on Iraq with Lebanon.They've been talking about wiping Israel off the map for the last 60 years but have accomplished $hit.
They aren't united neither do they have the brains and technology for world domination. Yes they've killed abt 10000 people worldwide but you've got to do better than that to dominate this world.

Tronic
21 Aug 06,, 17:39
Yes they've killed abt 10000 people worldwide but you've got to do better than that to dominate this world.
gahh... where are you getting that figure from??? they've killed WAY more then 10,000 people if you count all the places which Islamic terrorism has inflicted...

Ray
21 Aug 06,, 20:01
The man is insane and punch drunk with the illusion of mullah power!

No sane Moslem will pay heed, I hope.

Dreadnought
21 Aug 06,, 20:05
The man is insane and punch drunk with the illusion of mullah power!

No sane Moslem will pay heed, I hope.


I/We hope as well Sir. :confused:

starsiege
22 Aug 06,, 15:37
The man is insane and punch drunk with the illusion of mullah power!

No sane Moslem will pay heed, I hope.

but many insane ones would

Dreadnought
22 Aug 06,, 17:26
but many insane ones would

Hope they also believe in making out wills. :rolleyes:

Bill
22 Aug 06,, 17:39
and yet 10,000 is still a very understated number...

Unless you're one of them.


Hundreds of muslims die in Shi'a Sunni conflicts every week.They can't get enough of each other and talk of world domination.Compare the reactions of Arab leaders over war on Iraq with Lebanon.They've been talking about wiping Israel off the map for the last 60 years but have accomplished $hit.
They aren't united neither do they have the brains and technology for world domination. Yes they've killed abt 10000 people worldwide but you've got to do better than that to dominate this world.

Wait till they pop off a nuke.

All your tunes will change real sudden like then...


gahh... where are you getting that figure from??? they've killed WAY more then 10,000 people if you count all the places which Islamic terrorism has inflicted...

Know what......I'M WRONG.

DARFUR SUDAN....that's an Arab-Islamic Genocide....and it's going on RIGHT NOW.

2 million dead and counting.

So there you have it.... 2.01 million dead in modern times.

Tronic
22 Aug 06,, 18:40
Know what......I'M WRONG.

DARFUR SUDAN....that's an Arab-Islamic Genocide....and it's going on RIGHT NOW.

2 million dead and counting.

So there you have it.... 2.01 million dead in modern times.

oh, wow... its ironical that the media makes a big deal out of the Rwanda genocide of the past and completely neglects an ongoing genocide at present...

Ray
22 Aug 06,, 18:42
The bloke say that nuclear reactors should be fuelled by Hindu bodies?

That sure is an interesting scientific discovery.

So, Hindus are radioactive and reactive?

How do they "burn" - fusion or fission?

Hey, I am totally confused and whatever little I knew about nuclear reaction has now got muddled in view of this great discovery.

I recommend the Nobel Prize for this bloke!

Lunatock
22 Aug 06,, 19:28
The man is insane and punch drunk with the illusion of mullah power!

No sane Moslem will pay heed, I hope.

How about paying heed through a scope from a rooftop?

Ray
22 Aug 06,, 21:29
No chance.

I live in a bungalow with highrises around.

Jay
22 Aug 06,, 21:36
The bloke say that nuclear reactors should be fuelled by Hindu bodies?


Yep, the govt should open up a reactor in Varanasi :biggrin: We are so dumb, we need some mullah from UK to "reveal" it to us. :biggrin:

Ray
22 Aug 06,, 21:44
:)

starsiege
25 Aug 06,, 14:56
The bloke say that nuclear reactors should be fuelled by Hindu bodies?

That sure is an interesting scientific discovery.

So, Hindus are radioactive and reactive?

How do they "burn" - fusion or fission?

Hey, I am totally confused and whatever little I knew about nuclear reaction has now got muddled in view of this great discovery.

I recommend the Nobel Prize for this bloke!

maybe he invented some new antimatter reactor!! :biggrin: