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gilgamesh
13 Aug 06,, 08:34
... and its about time.

http://us.rediff.com/news/2006/aug/12bdesh.htm

BSF kills 5 Bangla Rifles soldiers

August 11, 2006 18:43 IST


The Border Security Force on Friday claimed to have shot dead five Bangladesh Rifles personnel on Wednesday after the latter fired mortars, killing two women at an Assamese village on the Indo-Bangladesh border in Cachar district.

BSF IG S K Dutta told PTI from Agartala that five BDR personnel 'reportedly died 'in retaliatory firing.

"The BDR is up to mischief after Wednesday's incident and have reinforced troops and deployed the army according to inputs received," Dutta said.

"About 40 to 50 Bangladesh army men in BDR uniform are patrolling the border and asking the villagers to vacate the area," he said.

"We are monitoring the situation. There has been no firing after Wednesday. But nothing can be taken for granted because trouble starts only at night," he said. People of Harinagar, Kinnarkal and Tukirgram living along the 32-km stretch of the Indo-Bangla border are still in panic despite top Cachar and Karimganj district officials assuring them of safety.

Trouble has been brewing along the border since June over the occupation of 220 acres of Indian land by Bangladeshi cultivators.

The district administration has opened camps at two schools in Katigorah, the sources said.

The Cachar district administration has arranged two vehicles to shift people from the border areas to safer places. In Karimganj district hundreds of people were taking shelter in the Bhanga high school.

The BSF has urged people to keep a minimum distance of 300ft from the border. BSF patrolling has been intensified and movement of the BDR is being monitored. Union Heavy Industries minister Santosh Mohan Dev told this correspondent that he had discussed the firing on the border with Union Home minister Shivraj Patil.

The home minister, he said, had asked the BSF to intensify security measures.

Sources said the BSF had conveyed its strong protest to the BDR on the 'unprovoked firing' on Wednesday which had violated the agreement of the earlier flag meeting.

A sector-level flag meeting between the BSF and BDR will be held on August 13.

gilgamesh
13 Aug 06,, 08:35
Border firing: Bangladesh calls for restraint

Bangladesh has appealed for maintaining utmost restraint to ensure peace along the border with India for good neighbourly relations.

"I am deeply concerned at the repetition of incidents of firing along the border. Such unprovoked firing and killing of innocent civilians should stop immediately," Bangladesh Foreign Minister Morshed Khan told a local news agency.

He said that such incidents were detrimental to improving bilateral relations.

Khan called for maintaining utmost restraint to ensure peace in the frontier for good neighbourly relations.

Thousands of villagers in Bangladesh have fled following the firing incidents in the frontier as both sides agreed to hold a flag meeting on Sunday. The situation was calm on Saturday.


http://us.rediff.com/news/2006/aug/12bdesh.htm

Archer
13 Aug 06,, 09:03
Border firing: Bangladesh calls for restraint

Bangladesh has appealed for maintaining utmost restraint to ensure peace along the border with India for good neighbourly relations.

"I am deeply concerned at the repetition of incidents of firing along the border. Such unprovoked firing and killing of innocent civilians should stop immediately," Bangladesh Foreign Minister Morshed Khan told a local news agency.

He said that such incidents were detrimental to improving bilateral relations.

Khan called for maintaining utmost restraint to ensure peace in the frontier for good neighbourly relations.

Thousands of villagers in Bangladesh have fled following the firing incidents in the frontier as both sides agreed to hold a flag meeting on Sunday. The situation was calm on Saturday.


http://us.rediff.com/news/2006/aug/12bdesh.htm


Oh good grief! BD calling for restraint?? This means they got hammered bigtime!

Good show BSF! :redface:

SLASH
13 Aug 06,, 09:37
Why is this $hit tolerated by the Indian government???

667medic
13 Aug 06,, 15:45
Only 5 of their chaps got creamed and we are celebrating :rolleyes:
We still gotta nail 15 more to avenge for the BSF jawans matyred by them :mad:

Samudra
13 Aug 06,, 15:54
Hey, its just a start. ;)

Tronic
13 Aug 06,, 16:09
yea... 2 more incidents like this and we're upto 15... btw, does the BSF operate any UAVs??? because they should...

Akshay
13 Aug 06,, 16:09
Thats calling spade for spade. Time to show the kids whoz the big daddy. :biggrin:

667medic
13 Aug 06,, 17:10
yea... 2 more incidents like this and we're upto 15... btw, does the BSF operate any UAVs??? because they should...
Yeah sure, what they need now is proper arty support leave alone gadgets like UAV's....

Tronic
13 Aug 06,, 18:46
Yeah sure, what they need now is proper arty support leave alone gadgets like UAV's....
yea... thats what I was thinking too... arty + UAV's...

667medic
13 Aug 06,, 20:14
yea... thats what I was thinking too... arty + UAV's...
Dude, the BSF is under-equipped and you are talking about UAV's. But UAV's are defiitely useful to detect smuggling and infiltration.

I am not aware of the ORBAT at the border areas but what BSF needs is arty support. That would be an escalatory move and BDR would probably follow like wise but the enemy would atleast behave because he would know for sure that his HQ would get wiped out within seconds :cool:

Ray
13 Aug 06,, 20:46
One can't use artillery.

It is not done as per Indian policy.

Only reltaliate by small arms and not even a MMG or a 2 inch mortar.

Tronic
13 Aug 06,, 21:01
One can't use artillery.

It is not done as per Indian policy.

Only reltaliate by small arms and not even a MMG or a 2 inch mortar.
why??? whats wrong with using MMGs??? artillery I agree is a bit extreme... but MMGs should be ok...

Jay
14 Aug 06,, 05:18
Artillery... :eek:

Guys, we are not at war with Bangladesh. We still want brotherly relations with BD, if they get out of line, we will have to smack them a lil once in a while.

lemontree
14 Aug 06,, 06:02
Why such a big issue about this incident? It is a local unit level incident, these keep happening and one should not allow this to cloud their judgement over Indo-Bangla bilateral relations.

veera8
14 Aug 06,, 06:50
once upon a time BD was our brothers and we acted center stage for thier independance ..but today India and BD are killing each other ....

iam so disappointed to see some of WAB respected members calling for another 15 BD men to be killed to avenge for brutal cowardly killing of BSF men few years ago ...... blood brings bloods ....As a big brother of this region India should take this matter and analyse to find a amicable soultion that suits both the parties ......
i repeat,no country can become prosperous without a peaceful surrounding .....

Archer
14 Aug 06,, 07:50
I appreciate your sentiment but am cynical about your logic. Bangladesh is on its way to becoming yet another Islamic extremist state like Pakistan & its but a matter of time, before the headache becomes unmanageable.

Already, most of the bomb attacks and terror attacks in India have Bangladesh as a staging ground, and logistical help from Bangla intelligence to ISI. That, plus the demographic change in the NE, entire regions becoming Muslim majority (and not the secular kind either), has caused huge problems for the NE citizens as well as security forces. And this illegal pushing across of people, a Bangladesh Govt supported move, with BDRifles using small arms fire and aggressive encroachment into Indian territory, has changed entire swathes of the NE- ask NE Indians as to how they feel about this. This also partly led to the creation of ULFA, when a student movement to address the Bangla illegal immigration problem was censured, forced underground and ultimately became a criminal organization.

All in all, Indo-Bangla relations are on the way of going downhill, and part of the reason is of course, the extremist turn Bangladesh has taken in turns of allowing Islamist demagogues to dictate ties with India.

Indian ties with Nepal and Sri Lanka and Bhutan, otoh remain robust, despite severe challenges.

Archer
14 Aug 06,, 07:57
Lest someone think that all the anti-India (read "Hindu" in extremist Bangla literature) came about all of a sudden, please be aware that it did not. East Pakistan was amongst the forefront of the most rabid bloodletting during partition and no less a prominent personality like Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, was also culpable via rabble rousing. All in all, Bangladeshs problems began much earlier. During the days of the Raj itself, itinerant Islamic preachers and mullahs began the process of hardcore Islamization and created a headache for administrators with periodic bouts of extremist & violent bloodletting against local hindus. Whilst the majority of Bangladesh (East Pak) did continue to be more integrated with Indians because of the common language and some shared customs, the local hindus were never too far from a pogrom.
All in all, an old problem -and one which hasnt been helped any by post modern Bangladeshs history. After 71' and Mujibs all too brief rule, the military took over and played the India card to retain power and "unify" the public. As is also usual, whilst all this was happening, India slumbered- it had got Bangladesh independence, the rest it couldnt give a damn for.
India's delhi based babus have been the bane of India in terms of anticipating and shaping regional history to everyones benefit. They vary from reactionary actions (71 war) and complete somnolence (71 to current generation).

Ray
14 Aug 06,, 08:21
Tronic,

MMG use is not advocated since it is a very devastating weapon.

The aim if not to kill or maim, but to deter, with minimum of casualties so that it warns them without carrying out a massacre.

True, Bangladesh is becoming an Islamic fascist country. That is because Islam gives them Dutch Courage!

In fact, this Islamic umbrella is basically for those countries who find their courage through numbers. Individually, they know they are push overs.

667medic
14 Aug 06,, 13:26
Tronic,

MMG use is not advocated since it is a very devastating weapon.

The aim if not to kill or maim, but to deter, with minimum of casualties so that it warns them without carrying out a massacre.

True, Bangladesh is becoming an Islamic fascist country. That is because Islam gives them Dutch Courage!

In fact, this Islamic umbrella is basically for those countries who find their courage through numbers. Individually, they know they are push overs.
Gen Sir, can you give a brief intro on the ROE as far as the Indo-Bangla border is concerned, Thanks....

667medic
14 Aug 06,, 13:29
once upon a time BD was our brothers and we acted center stage for thier independance ..but today India and BD are killing each other ....

iam so disappointed to see some of WAB respected members calling for another 15 BD men to be killed to avenge for brutal cowardly killing of BSF men few years ago ...... blood brings bloods ....As a big brother of this region India should take this matter and analyse to find a amicable soultion that suits both the parties ......
i repeat,no country can become prosperous without a peaceful surrounding .....
Did you see the manner in which the matyred jawans were transported by those haramis, it was like transporting wild animals after a hunt, slung on poles, disgusting :mad:

veera8
15 Aug 06,, 07:17
Did you see the manner in which the matyred jawans were transported by those haramis, it was like transporting wild animals after a hunt, slung on poles, disgusting :mad:

medic,
i agree that any indian blood would have boiled to see those slain indian soldiers being tortured and killed ....check this foto ,some BSF men in the custody of BDR mens
Brutality of BDR (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/nayeem007/bdr_border_clash_2001_19.jpg)

but the point is further aggravating the situation will bring abt a permanent scar in both the nations .....comapred to Indian size and strength BD is nothing .but being a big brother we should also listen to their concerns and should be flexible enough to maintan a cordial relation with BD ....

Akshay
15 Aug 06,, 17:09
but the point is further aggravating the situation will bring abt a permanent scar in both the nations .....comapred to Indian size and strength BD is nothing .but being a big brother we should also listen to their concerns and should be flexible enough to maintan a cordial relation with BD ....

We have always tried for cordial relations with all our neighbors. Yes!! we did make mistakes in the past but we had the stomach to admit them & stand up to correct them. Support for LTTE during Indira Gandhi's regime was 1 such mistake. But, her own son decided to rectify it & in the process gave up his own life. But, we did everything we could for B'Desh. They owe their Freedom & Independence to us. Yet, their skirmishes don't stop. Its easier to blame one's neighbor for every wrong that happens in the country. Everytime a hurricane hits Bangla coast or there are floods in B'Desh, India is to be blamed. They wouldn't mind if our lands go dry. But if, they don't get enough they would blame India. Why do you suppose India wouldn't have tried for cordial relationship with BD? We certainly don't want another mullah sympathising country in our backyard. The reason that these BDR scums have guts in their a$$ to shoot our soldiers is because of our restraint policy & our attempt for cordial relation with them. But, these scums have come to think about it as our weakness just as our neighbor who thinks that hindu soul wouldn't dare to fight. If it wasn't for our restraint policy, BDR would've got the same fate as that of NLI of Pakistan during Kargil. Flankers, Fulcrums & Mirages would've been all over Bangla skies raining fire.

Grim Reaper
15 Aug 06,, 19:42
I really do think we should smack Bangladesh around a bit and put them back in place. We should kill some more of them just so the morons know we are not playing any game with them. :tongue:

Ray
15 Aug 06,, 20:37
One doesn't have to do anything with Bangladesh.

The Islamic fundamentalists are taking a grip of their country and soon the sectarian violence will erupt and they will themselve dig their own grave.

Must be given a long rope to hang themselves with.

667medic
15 Aug 06,, 21:14
One doesn't have to do anything with Bangladesh.

The Islamic fundamentalists are taking a grip of their country and soon the sectarian violence will erupt and they will themselve dig their own grave.

Must be given a long rope to hang themselves with.
Sir, I beg to differ.
The demography of regions like Assam is changing even as we speak because of infiltration. These haramis even have their own political parties. Soon we might even see a BDeshi in the Parliament. What do you think would happen then :frown:

Ray
15 Aug 06,, 22:02
Don't allow the infiltration.

That is all.

Get the Indian govt to stop being ninnies.

And I don't mean the current govt alone. All the govt that have come and gone are responsible and were ninnies

Jay
15 Aug 06,, 23:42
More illegals, more votes, more politics :biggrin:

Archer
16 Aug 06,, 09:41
BDR is a gone case...
Dunno what it is about converts that they are bigger fanatics than the originals themselves..whether it be Pak or Bangla, you see such rage on the basis of religious hatred of the "infidel" that it gets you wondering..
Even the recent bust of the terror attacks with those Brit born Pakistanis..they had fresh converts amongst the group..
Jeez..

veera8
16 Aug 06,, 09:59
i think these converts to other religions have an imperative feeling to justify their conversion as "indeed a right choice " and to justify their claims they try to malign their former religion and practice their new religion with a zeal so that they feel they are very much integrated into their new found relgion .....