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Vaman
11 Jun 06,, 19:54
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\06\11\story_11-6-2006_pg13_7

IG wants inquiry into gunfight with women’s gang

Staff Report

LAHORE: Inspector General (IG) of Police Ziaul Hassan Khan has ordered an inquiry into Friday’s shootout between police and a gang of women robbers, in which one woman died and six were injured.

Police said 6 burglars of the same gang, four of which were women, had been caught in the last week of March after they robbed a cloth shop in Main Bazaar. They managed to flee in their wagon but a witness had noted its registration number (LZR 2638), which he told the police. Shabbir Ahmed, the wagon’s owner, was arrested two days later. The police also arrested 15 gypsies including several women from Farrukhabad. Sources said they were taken to an unidentified place and their families were contacted. After ‘negotiations’ with Khalifa Pehelwan Kabaria, a Farrukhabad resident, nine of them were released, but two men (Shabbir Ahmad and Muhammad Imran) and four women (Jeroo, Shedoo, Semoo and Phiroo) were taken to the police station.

Deputy Inspector General Aamir Zulfiqar Khan had announced at a press conference on Friday that a woman dacoit (Majhi, 35) was killed and six were injured (Sharifan, Rashidan, Rani, Reshma, Anayat and Phiroo) after a chase that began in Wahdat Colony police precincts and ended in Rehmanpura. Phiroo was among the women arrested on April 3.

Vaman
11 Jun 06,, 19:56
Honestly this blows away the myth of oppressed burkha clad women in Pakistan.
This may indeed be a healthy growing trend towards liberation of women in the country esp. if they are able to take up guns and fend for themsleves.

platinum786
11 Jun 06,, 23:09
Hmm, bank robbers, burka myth....i prefer the myth thanks.

Tronic
11 Jun 06,, 23:16
and I would love to see the muslim guys being forced to wear Burkhas... only then will they know how the women feel...

platinum786
11 Jun 06,, 23:25
what makes you think women are forced to wear them?

if you live all your life thinking women are not suppsoed to be bald, then women will have long hair, women won't choose to go bald, it's just the way society is, msulim women as a part of society choose to dress in a modest manner, that's all that is required of them, modesty, muslim men are asked also to dress in a similar manner, above all everyone is asked to behave in a modest manner.

Tronic
11 Jun 06,, 23:26
The Holy Quaran...

platinum786
11 Jun 06,, 23:28
you'd be wrong. read the quran for your sake and correct yourself.

just try gogleing the appropraite bit.

if you still can't see why you are wrong ask me, i'll show you.

Tronic
11 Jun 06,, 23:29
I don't want to read the Quaran... thats too much reading... and since i'm not a muslim, i'm not going to argue this point any further...

platinum786
11 Jun 06,, 23:34
I'd be a bad muslim if i left you with misconceptions in your mind. well perhaps i wouldn't but here goes anyway...



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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! enter not houses other than your own, until ye have asked permission and saluted those in them: that is best for you, in order that ye may heed (what is seemly).
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Enter not houses other than your own without first announcing your presence and invoking peace upon the folk thereof. That is better for you, that ye may be heedful.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! Do not enter houses other than your own houses until you have asked permission and saluted their inmates; this is better for you, that you may be mindful.

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YUSUFALI: If ye find no one in the house, enter not until permission is given to you: if ye are asked to go back, go back: that makes for greater purity for yourselves: and Allah knows well all that ye do.
PICKTHAL: And if ye find no-one therein, still enter not until permission hath been given. And if it be said unto you: Go away again, then go away, for it is purer for you. Allah knoweth what ye do.
SHAKIR: But if you do not find any one therein, then do not enter them until permission is given to you; and if it is said to you: Go back, then go back; this is purer for you; and Allah is Cognizant of what you do.

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YUSUFALI: It is no fault on your part to enter houses not used for living in, which serve some (other) use for you: And Allah has knowledge of what ye reveal and what ye conceal.
PICKTHAL: (It is) no sin for you to enter uninhabited houses wherein is comfort for you. Allah knoweth what ye proclaim and what ye hide.
SHAKIR: It is no sin in you that you enter uninhabited houses wherein you have your necessaries; and Allah knows what you do openly and what you hide.

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YUSUFALI: Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
PICKTHAL: Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is aware of what they do.
SHAKIR: Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is Aware of what they do.

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YUSUFALI: And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.
PICKTHAL: And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands' fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters' sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who know naught of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed.
SHAKIR: And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful.

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YUSUFALI: Marry those among you who are single, or the virtuous ones among yourselves, male or female: if they are in poverty, Allah will give them means out of His grace: for Allah encompasseth all, and he knoweth all things.
PICKTHAL: And marry such of you as are solitary and the pious of your slaves and maid-servants. If they be poor, Allah will enrich them of His bounty. Allah is of ample means, Aware.
SHAKIR: And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves; if they are needy, Allah will make them free from want out of His grace; and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.

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YUSUFALI: Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),
PICKTHAL: And let those who cannot find a match keep chaste till Allah give them independence by His grace. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), write it for them if ye are aware of aught of good in them, and bestow upon them of the wealth of Allah which He hath bestowed upon you. Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. And if one force them, then (unto them), after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: And let those who do not find the means to marry keep chaste until Allah makes them free from want out of His grace. And (as for) those who ask for a writing from among those whom your right hands possess, give them the writing if you know any good in them, and give them of the wealth of Allah which He has given you; and do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, when they desire to keep chaste, in order to seek the frail good of this world's life; and whoever compels them, then surely after their compulsion Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Tronic
11 Jun 06,, 23:45
024.031
YUSUFALI: And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.


why are the women alone forced to follow this??? Are all men suppose to be barbaric sexually starved perverts???

platinum786
12 Jun 06,, 18:54
first of all nobody is forced and secondly men are not as sexually aluring as women and thirdly the world is a male dominated society, the west can petend all it likes that it is equal but the glass ceiling still exist in 2006. 1400 years after the revelation of isam the world is still male dominated.


Women are called to be modest in a direct way, men are also called to be modest in the verse before that one that you chose yto ignore, it's just men don't have the sexual features of women thus aren't asked to cover thier "bosom".

Vaman
12 Jun 06,, 18:59
Hmmm.. tight jeans must be extremely provocative then. Is that banned too?...