Agitating medical students of Government Medical College stage a demonstration and block roads to protest over the proposed reservation policy in premier central institutes, in Amritsar on Saturday, May 13, 2006.
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Originally posted by alokindia2020[stage a demonstration and block roads to protestNo man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
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Originally posted by Confed999People who block roads for their protests have no consideration of others. When that is done around here I become completely unsympathetic to their cause, even if I agree with it!
see helplessly...or go around killing governmenr officials?
peaceful protest wen are beaten down by sticks and bullets do y talk of consideration?
in democracy u have to accept it
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democracy does not mean, making other people's lives hell just to get your point across...Cow is the only animal that not only inhales oxygen, but also exhales it.
-Rekha Arya, Former Minister of Animal Husbandry
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Originally posted by Tronicdemocracy does not mean, making other people's lives hell just to get your point across...
they make lives better
but when these very doctors who are 2nd to gods dont get their rights and their future is at stake..wat shud they do?...fly to US or UK
so that brain drain continues..
wat is the point u want to get accross?
they r striking not for themselves but for the whole community.
do u thing SC/ST doctors without any proper qualification can treat people efficiently in already overburdened and crumbling infrastructure?
it is only the skill of doctors which save patient lives!
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Originally posted by alokindia2020so what they shud do?
Originally posted by alokindia2020in democracy u have to accept itNo man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
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http://www.petitiononline.com
Arjun Singh should most probably commit suicide or bury his head in sand after reading this.
ENDRAPARA: Babaji Sahoo's ramshackle tea stall in a non-descript village of Orissa's Jagatsinghpur district has suddenly become the focus of the entire neighbourhood.
Sahoo's son Manoj has done the entire area proud by finishing 34th in the Civil Services examination this year.
"I only hoped that he will become a school teacher, not an IAS. But he has surprised everyone," 62-year-old Sahoo said.
Overwhelmed at the achievement of Manoj, residents of Singarpur village in Balikuda block, took out a procession to celebrate his success last Sunday where the elders blessed the youngman.
"Poverty cannot be a hurdle if you have determination and if one is willing to do hard work," Manoj told the happy gathering.
"It's all due to the grace of god. My obedient son showed a spark of brilliance right from childhood. We are poor but I never neglected my son's studies," Sahoo said.
He earned a meagre amount from the tea shop, that too in a village. "But I never neglected my son's education. Whatever I earned went towards his studies," an emotional Sahoo said.
"Now I am thinking of closing down the tea stall," he said, his voice betraying emotion.
Manoj, 26, who also taught in classes at a science study centre at Jagatsinghpur to earn a few extra rupees to meet his requirement, had a career entirely spent in the sylvan surroundings of his village.
He studied at the Sailabala High School at Panchupandab and then joined the Swami Vivekananda Memorial College at Jagatsinghpur, the district headquarter town. He did his B.Sc. in agriculture from the College of Agriculture and Technology at Chiplima in Sambalpur district.
He did M.Sc. in agriculture from Junagarh university in Gujarat.
After doing his post-graduation, he heeded the advice of a friend and moved to Delhi to prepare for the civil service examination.
"I did not attend any coaching classes nor pay any hefty fees. It has also proved the impression that students from public schools alone can do well in these exams is a myth," he said.
"He was a bright student and by becoming an IAS he has done his village proud," Judhistir Das, a teacher at Sailabala High School, Manoj's alma mater, said.
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Quota: A cure worse than the disease
April 26, 2006
'India is my country and all Indians are my brothers and sisters.'
This is a pledge that most of us must have taken at some point or the other during our school days. All young minds are trained to treat all our fellow Indians as equals in every respect right from childhood.
Unfortunately the reality is quite the opposite. As soon as we finish our schooling and take the first step towards higher education, we find discrimination in the name of reservation.
It starts with getting admission to higher educational institutions and extends to several other fields -- like getting jobs, obtaining easy loans, et cetera. So is reservation justified?
When we are trained to consider all fellow Indians as brothers and sisters why is it that certain sections of society are given this privileged treatment? Before dwelling deeper into this question let us first understand the fundamental aspects governing this policy.
The reservation policy has been prevailing since early twentieth century. However, pre-Independence reservations were provided not to the deprived sections of the society, but to religious communities.
However, this situation gradually changed over a period of time and is now meant to improve the rights and representation of the deprived sections of the society and for their empowerment.
The problem of equal rights and opportunities dogs every democracy, and India is no exception. Even in the United States, the land of great opportunities, there are still many deprived sections that are denied their due share in educational, economic, social and political arenas.
The problem in India is far more complex considering the backwardness in most parts of India and the diversity in religion and caste. India is a country where wealth distribution is highly unequal. Beggar children beseeching for alms at traffic signals where gleaming Mercs purr is still a common sight.
In the US, the 'Affirmative Action' is a policy, which prevents discrimination against certain sections of the society. The reservation policy in India, however, acts exactly against this purpose.
It does not act to end discrimination. It acts as an antidote to an exploitative and unjust social structure known as the caste system. It fosters discrimination and plants the seeds of division in people's minds -- all this in the name of empowering and protecting the deprived sections of the society. Such division is against the cardinal principles of democracy.
Reservation is not an atonement of our past sins and should not be used to compensate for the damage inflicted in the past. It is still a bitter fact that certain sections of the society are exploited and deprived of their rights.
Although significant progress has been made in empowering the lives of such oppressed, there are still many horrific incidents happening across the country. We are still living in a highly unjust social structure.
However, instead of eradicating this injustice, we are further dividing the society and creating splits. We are trying to heal our past wounds by inflicting new ones.
Unlike in the US, the reservation policy in India does not strive for equal opportunity. It rather acts as a catalyst for further division. Reservations are provided across various sectors like higher education, jobs, political representation and other areas.
Since there is a paucity of educational facilities like medical and engineering, such a privilege becomes a decisive turning point in the careers of several young and bright students.
Giving special privileges to someone merely on the basis of their birth into certain castes or tribes is unjust. People who have benefited from such biased treatment would advocate for more and foster caste sentiments in their minds. Those who have lost the opportunity in spite of having good credentials would start feeling bad about their upper caste credentials.
The benefits are so many and so palpable that the reservation policy has created a vested interest in backwardness. It seems like people want to be considered 'backward' rather than 'forward' in modern India! The more backward you are the more advantages you get.
Reservation is now used as a tool for gaining more benefits. The area of reservation has been steadily expanding and newer backward groups and sections of society are mushrooming.
Several castes and their leaders constantly strive to prove their backwardness in order to sneak into one or the other reserved categories. Some political groups have even started identifying themselves with a particular community or caste to garner their support. We have also started seeing demands for reservation based on religion. The demand for separate reservation for Muslims and Christians is one such example.
Some theories say that the interests and aspirations of a community can only be protected by the people belonging to the same community. Only a schedule caste leader can help another scheduled caste person, only a tribe can help another and so on.
Political parties project themselves as the champions of that particular race and corrupt the voters' minds by propagating such notions about leaders belonging to other castes and religions.
However, an important and notable aspect is whether these reservations actually reach the people for whom they are really intended? Does reservation empower the deprived sections of the society or is it being misused?
Since the reservation is meant for the minorities and the oppressed, the percentage of seats reserved should also be kept accordingly. However, in many states the percentage is too high and mirrors the vested interests behind increasing the limit. Tamil Nadu with a reservation of 69 per cent is a glaring example.
Secondly not all people of these backward classes are deprived. In fact there are quite a few of them who are neither economically or socially backward who can be considered as the creamy layer among such backward groups.
Since reservation is meant for the deprived, showing such privileged treatment to the 'creamy layer' from among the 'backward' castes defeats the whole purpose. In fact, people from these creamy layers steal the reserved seats from their other backward counterparts for whom these reservations would have actually made a difference.
There is no denying that our society is still not just. But quoting this as a reason for reserving seats is equally unjust and undemocratic. To reiterate, we should strive for an egalitarian society and not compensate for the damage inflicted in the past. There should be a terminating date fixed for all the reservations.
We should aim for a society where everyone is equal. For that we need bold statesmen who can fight for the cause of equality and make the people realise that division and discrimination based on caste, creed, religion or sex is only going to harm their own interests.
Let us hope for the day when all Indians become brothers and sisters in the real sense. Let us fight for equality.
The author is employed with one of India's biggest IT companies. The views here are personal.
http://in.rediff.com/money/2006/apr/26guest1.htm
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ET has opened a debate on "Is Premji right to go against job quotas
in Wipro?"
As expected most of the posts agree with him...
Here is someone who put his pt in a very diff way.. Smiley)
I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I
completely support the PM and all the politicians for promoting
this. Let's start the reservation with our cricket team. We should
have 10 percent reservation for Muslims. 30 percent for OBC, SC/ST
like that. Cricket rules should be modified accordingly. The
boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit
by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by a
OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An OBC player scoring 60
runs should be declared as a century.
We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like
Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player. Bowlers
should bowl maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an OBC player.
Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal.
Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race,
an OBC player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters.
There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let's recruit
SC/ST and OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers
and politicians (that can really help the country...)
Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the
ministers and other politicians. (Another way of saving the
country...)
Let's be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA
forward...
Let's show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country. Let's be proud
of being an INDIAN..
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Originally posted by sukhoiET has opened a debate on "Is Premji right to go against job quotas
in Wipro?"
As expected most of the posts agree with him...
Here is someone who put his pt in a very diff way.. Smiley)
I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I
completely support the PM and all the politicians for promoting
this. Let's start the reservation with our cricket team. We should
have 10 percent reservation for Muslims. 30 percent for OBC, SC/ST
like that. Cricket rules should be modified accordingly. The
boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit
by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by a
OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An OBC player scoring 60
runs should be declared as a century.
We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like
Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player. Bowlers
should bowl maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an OBC player.
Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal.
Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race,
an OBC player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters.
There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let's recruit
SC/ST and OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers
and politicians (that can really help the country...)
Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the
ministers and other politicians. (Another way of saving the
country...)
Let's be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA
forward...
Let's show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country. Let's be proud
of being an INDIAN..
also there will not be much difference even if government impose reservation in private sectors also. the only thing will be changed, backward cast people will be known as reservation quota people even if they will get job by there own. when companies go to any college, they are not allowed to check who got seat in that college by reservation and who got by his own. while this way, even if a student of reservation quota will do good in interview, companies will give him lower marks to show they gave him job by reservation. and this way a man of reservation quota will be of the same quota forever. and the most important thing, because of his level, he will have disadvantage in promotions inside the company also. the reason, no matter how good a guy is, higher authority will always see him from eyes of backward-forward or man of quota or without quota. On the other hand if companies will not get sufficient skilled people of their interests, they wil prefer to go for casual employment where they will not have to give reservation.
and at the end, all these reservation techniques will result in divided society. this reservation will just divide people and Arjun Singh type people will be black listed for their political crimes forever.
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