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TopHatter
02 May 06,, 23:29
Can our Army guys tell me about the one syllable slightly slang for sergeant "Sar'nt" ?

When/why it came into use etc.

As I understant it, it's not disrespectful, but it is a pronunciation you would use to just anybody? (excluding ceremony where you'd probably be best off saying every damn syllable in a person's name and rank :redface: )

Is it just US Army, or does the USAF or USMC use it as well?

Shek
02 May 06,, 23:32
Can our Army guys tell me about the one syllable slightly slang for sergeant "Sar'nt" ?

When/why it came into use etc.

As I understant it, it's not disrespectful, but it is a pronunciation you would use to just anybody? (excluding ceremony where you'd probably be best off saying every damn syllable in a person's name and rank :redface: )

Is it just US Army, or does the USAF or USMC use it as well?

Sarge or any other variation were strictly verboten in the units I've been in. So, I really can't tell you where it originated.

TopHatter
03 May 06,, 00:38
Sarge or any other variation were strictly verboten in the units I've been in.
You served in the Bundeswehr? :confused:


;)

Bill
03 May 06,, 02:12
Sarge or any other variation were strictly verboten in the units I've been in. So, I really can't tell you where it originated.

Sarge is a big time no go unless you are straight out friends with the guy, and no one is around.

Sar'ent is fine, tis a perfectly appropriate term of respect.

sappersgt
03 May 06,, 02:49
Sarge is a big time no go unless you are straight out friends with the guy, and no one is around.

Sar'ent is fine, tis a perfectly appropriate term of respect.

If you can call the Sargent by his first name then you can call him Sarge. It's hard to yell Sargent so that' s why the contraction ie: "Sar'ent Caldwell, FRONT AND CENTER!". The only other time I heard "Sar'ent" was when it was followed by "Major".

Bluesman
03 May 06,, 06:00
When I got to SOCOM, my soldiers called me 'Sar'nt', and there wasn't a hint of disrespect in it. Quite the opposite.

The first time I met my only specialist (all of us were NCOs but him! :redface: Poor kid.), he was being in-processed by my senior soldier, a rather scary female. It was like a parent teaching a child how to act around an august personage (not that I qualified, but she wanted to get him started off with me RIGHT. :mad: ). She was standing behind him while he and I were talking. He messed up and said 'Yeah', when I asked him a question. I would've let it go, but she leaned in close to him and said quietly, 'You say 'Yes, Sar'nt' when you talk to NCOs, especially senior NCOs. Try again.'

I swear, he went to 'Parade Rest', and gave a drill field 'Yes, Sar'nt' that had the whole room looking around at us to see who was getting chewed out. :biggrin: He couldn't see her, but she was behind him just grinning like a mule eating briars. :biggrin:

She's a drill sergeant at Ft. Huachuca now, and I bet NObody forgets to call her 'sar'nt', including the officers. :cool:

Bill
03 May 06,, 16:23
That musta been one dumbass Spec4. By then, a brutha should have all the protocol stuff down pat.

Blademaster
03 May 06,, 16:37
*in Chris Tucker's voice from movie, Friday* "Hey Saarge, I was only joking. Here have some smoke. I tell ya that'd chill you out big time, Sarge"

<couple minutes later and a series of sounds of somebody getting a whoop ass>

"Whadda I say? I was only being friendly".

sappersgt
03 May 06,, 19:30
When I got to SOCOM, my soldiers called me 'Sar'nt', and there wasn't a hint of disrespect in it. Quite the opposite.

The first time I met my only specialist (all of us were NCOs but him! :redface: Poor kid.), he was being in-processed by my senior soldier, a rather scary female. It was like a parent teaching a child how to act around an august personage (not that I qualified, but she wanted to get him started off with me RIGHT. :mad: ). She was standing behind him while he and I were talking. He messed up and said 'Yeah', when I asked him a question. I would've let it go, but she leaned in close to him and said quietly, 'You say 'Yes, Sar'nt' when you talk to NCOs, especially senior NCOs. Try again.'

I swear, he went to 'Parade Rest', and gave a drill field 'Yes, Sar'nt' that had the whole room looking around at us to see who was getting chewed out. :biggrin: He couldn't see her, but she was behind him just grinning like a mule eating briars. :biggrin:

She's a drill sergeant at Ft. Huachuca now, and I bet NObody forgets to call her 'sar'nt', including the officers. :cool:

LOL I can just see the guy...

I got a world class ass chewing once (by a Captain) for using Sar'ent once. I never used it again. I think that he might have just not liked Americans. I've noticed most armies are similar but always do some things a little bit different. :)

Most of the people that called me "Sarge" were other Sturmpioneers. I wasn't insulted, I figured they earned it. :biggrin:

Ray
06 May 06,, 07:41
You served in the Bundeswehr? :confused:


;)

:biggrin:

If he told you that he was from the SS Waffen, would that make your day? ;) :tongue: :biggrin:

TopHatter
06 May 06,, 18:19
:biggrin:

If he told you that he was from the SS Waffen, would that make your day? ;) :tongue: :biggrin:
Not really no, I would have worried about his age! :biggrin:

Gun Grape
07 May 06,, 20:42
Sarge or any other variation were strictly verboten in the units I've been in. So, I really can't tell you where it originated.

Same with the USMC. And unlike the other services we address our SNCOs by their
Full rank. Only a E-5 is addressed as a sergeant. Staff Sergeants are called Staff Sergeant(E-6), Gunnery Sergeants(E-7), can be called Gunny. About the only rank that can sometimes be given a little leeway is Master Sergeant (E-8). Depending on the individual, they MAY be addressed as "Top". Or you may get the "Top? Do I have a string hanging out of my A**? Do I spin on my Head? I'm a Master Sergeant, and will be addressed as such!"