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    I am doing a project for school and need to know all you guys know about the

    M1 garand carbine
    thompson smg
    .45 acp
    k98
    Pssh SMG
    mp40
    mp 44
    panzerwarpher aint-tank rocket launcher<(not sure about the spelling)
    and 9mm german luger

    Please reply post haste

  • #2
    Originally posted by jame$thegreat
    panzerwarpher aint-tank rocket launcher<(not sure about the spelling)
    Panzerwerfer is hardly the thing you are looking for. Try Panzerschreck and Panzerfaust.
    Last edited by kNikS; 26 Apr 06,, 00:10.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kNikS
      [/quotepanzerwarpher aint-tank rocket launcher<(not sure about the spelling)Panzerwerfer is hardly the thing you are looking for. Try Panzerschreck and Panzerfaust.
      which was most heavily relied on during WW II?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jame$thegreat
        which was most heavily relied on during WW II?
        Not sure but i wanted to say that Panzerwerfer is multiple rocket launcher on halftrack and others are anti-tank manporable rocket launchers like for example Bazooka (but lighter).

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        • #5
          Panzerfaust was the man-portable anti-tank weapon used in large numbers by the volksjager late in the war. They took a terrible toll on the advancing Soviet tanks.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust

          http://homepage.eircom.net/~nighting...nzerfaust.html
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          • #6
            M1 Garand and M1 Carbine are completely different rifles.

            Garand was the first autoloader adopted for war by any army. It's gas operated. Loaded from an 8-round block clip which does not allow the user to "top off," a feature insisted by the army at the time, but chose to forego due to the superior performance of the weapon. It fires the standard 30-06 round, a full powered rifle cartridge.

            M1 Carbine was designed for rear echelong troops, support personnel, and anyone whose primary job was not to handle a Garand. It takes far more money and time to train anyone to use a pistol effectively, so the brass wanted a low powered rifle. It fires a 30 carbine round, think of it as a glorified pistol. The rifle is gas operated. Loaded from a 15 round detachable magazine. Over 6 million M1 Carbines were made in WW2, the most single type of rifle every produced.
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            • #7
              45 ACP is the name of a pistol cartridge.

              45 is the diameter of the bullet. 0.45 inches or 11.45 mm

              ACP stands for "automatic Colt pistol"

              Developed by the legendary John Browning for the US army during the early 20th century to combat natives doped up on drugs. It's a large, heavy, slow moving bullet that supposedly knocked charging people down in their tracks.

              This round is first used in the Model 1911 pistol, commonly refered to as the Colt 45. Later on it was adopted by John Thompson in his revolutionary sub-machinegun, aka Tommy gun.

              Just a side note, 45 ACP is a favorite of American shooters. You'll rarely encounter this round in Europe. They favor smaller but faster moving bullets.
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              • #8
                The Panzerfaust was much more widely issued than the Panzerschreck. The Panzerfaust was designed as a one use, disposable anti-tank weapon (similar to the LAW). Towards the end of the war it became more and more widely issued, with some of the Volkssturm armed with nothing else. The Panzerschreck, on the other hand, was designed as a reusable and reloadable anti-tank weapon similar to the US Bazooka (this is where the Germans got the idea). Both the Panzerfaust and Panzerschreck were quite capable of defeating even the most heavily armored Allied tanks, provided it was hit at the right place and angle.

                The M1 Garand was the first semi-automatic rifle to become standard issue in an army. Named after its designer, it was a very effective weapon that gave the American infantryman a distinct advantage in firepower over his bolt-action armed adversaries. It was reliable and accurate enough for the purpose it was designed for, and General Patton called it the "best weapon ever devised". About its only problem was its magazine system, which used 8 round clips and was complicated and which didn't allow for reloading. Also, a distinct "ping" announced to all nearby that the operator was out of ammo, which could have disastrous consequences in CQB.

                The M1 Thompson was derived from the M1928 Thomspon submachine gun. It did away with the complicated Blish operating system and replaced it with a simpler blowback system. Although heavy and ineffective in most hands past 55 yards, the .45 bullet it fired hit much harder than the 9mm round fired by other submachine guns and it was very reliable in combat.

                The M1911A1 carried by US troops was similar to the Thompson in many ways: inaccurate in some hands because of the heavy recoil and loud report generated by the .45 round, it was nonetheless a powerful weapon up close and was a very reliable weapon, one of the finest handguns ever designed.

                The K98 Mauser was a straighforard bolt-action rifle designed at the turn of the century that an action that, in my opinion, is the most successful and most widely copied of all time. Many firearms legends, such as the Winchester Model 70, use a almost identical bolt action, which is strong and very accurate, although not as smooth as some actions like the Lee-Enfield. It fired a powerful 7.92x57 Mauser bullet that, like comparable bullets, was lethal up to 3000 meters. It weighed 8.3 pounds and although it did not provide as much firepower as semi-automatics like the M1 Garand, it was more reliable and accurate. Many were used as accurate sniper rifles, and some are used even today as hunting and match rifles.

                The PPsH-41 submachine gun was probably the finest of the war. Featuring a large 71 round magazine, it was incredibly reliable and "soldier-proof", something important considering the technical literacy of most Soviet conscripts. It fired the 7.62x25mm round, which was more powerful than the 9mm round. Although not particularly accurate thanks to a 900 RPM rate of fire, it was the ultimate close quarter weapon on the Eastern Front. Many Germans pressed captured examples into service when numbers of their own MP40's ran low.

                The MP40 was the first weapon to be made completely out of steel and plastics (no wood) and the first to have a successful folding stock. It was a straightforward, blowback operated design firing a 9mm round at 500 rounds per minute (which gave it better accuracy compared to the Russian PPsH-41). Weighing in at a hefty 10 pounds, it's become a symbol of the German infantryman, and no WWII movie would be complete without showing one. It was a reliable weapon and many Allied soldiers preferred it to their own Sten and Grease Guns, who nicknamed captured MP40's "Burp Guns" thanks to their distinctive report.

                The MP44 was the first successful assault rifle and one of the most influential small arms of all time. Firing the 7.92x33 Kurz round from a 30 round magazine, which was midway in power between the full sized 7.92x57 Mauser round fired in the K98 and German machine guns and the 9mm round fired in the MP40 and German pistols, it gave the infantryman the excellent balance of the stopping power of the rifle round and the controllability of the pistol round in full auto. Accurate at ranges that counted, it was a good thing for the Allies that only a third of the MP44's produced made it to the Germans at the front, who found the new weapon to be extremely effective. The designation MP44 was later changed to "Sturmgewehr 44" (assault rifle), or Stg. 44 for short on Hitler's orders. Virtually every nation dissected it and copied its basic design traits after WWII.

                The German Luger is one of the classic pistol designs of all time. Instantly recognizable, it is also said to be the most comfortable pistol to shoot in the world. It carried 8 rounds of 9mm ammunition in its magazine. It was not without its faults, however, as it was expensive to produce and its toggle action was temperamental and not as reliable as other designs, which led to production being ended in 1942 to be produced by the cheaper and more reliable P-38. Both pistols were highly sought after as war trophies by Allied soldiers.
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                • #9
                  OK, I'm too lazy to do searches for you or type everything out, but do a search on the following:

                  thompson smg - Thompson submachine gun; Tommy gun; Chicago typewriter; trench broom

                  k98 - Mauser K98; Peter Mauser

                  Pssh SMG - This could be PPsh submachine gun; papasha

                  mp40 - MP38; MP40; Schmeisser; machinenpistole 40

                  mp 44 - sturmgewher; machinenpistole 44; first assault rifle

                  9mm german luger - 9mm Luger
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gunnut
                    OK, I'm too lazy to do searches for you or type everything out, but do a search on the following:

                    thompson smg - Thompson submachine gun; Tommy gun; Chicago typewriter; trench broom
                    I think the trench broom was a form of flame thrower used in the First World War.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RustyBattleship
                      I think the trench broom was a form of flame thrower used in the First World War.
                      The chicago typewriter was the Thompson .45 SMG. The Trench broom is the Winchester model 1897 pump action shotgun.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by M21Sniper
                        The chicago typewriter was the Thompson .45 SMG. The Trench broom is the Winchester model 1897 pump action shotgun.
                        I beg to differ with you (in a friendly and professional way of course). But the Model 97 Winchester (of which I own one) with a 20-inch cylinder bore 12 gauge barrel was merely called a Trench Gun.

                        The Trench Broom was an early type of flame thrower that "swept the trenches" because it was used in a "sweeping" motion. The user could actually be on the other side of a sandbag rivetment and hold the nozzle over the trench.

                        Of course the M1928A1 Thompson was often called a "Chicago Typewriter" among other things. I once owned a DEWAT of one but traded it in for a target pistol.

                        Interestingly, in WW I the Germans seemed to be more innovative in trench clearing weapons than the Allies. Where the 9mm Artillery Luger with an 8-inch barrel was originally intended for issue only to certain officers, DWM and Erfurt put out several thousand of them to issue to non-coms as well but equipped with a 32 shot "snail drum" magazine (I own those too) for trench clearing attacks. And for really being innovative, the Bergman sub-machinegun was designed to take the same snail drum magazine to simplify logistics.

                        Movie trivia: In Doug Mcclure's sci-fi movie, "Land that Time Forgot", where he is a prisoner aboard a German U-boat in WW I, the Sub's commander carries a Luger Naval which is almost exactly like a Luger Artillery. When the sub surfaces in the "time forgotten land" a Pleisiosaur type of creature tries to attack the men in the conning tower. A crewman of the U-boat comes up with a Bergman loaded with a snail drum magazine and shoots the dickens out of that critter. The man with the Bergman actually was the owner of the weapons used in the movie and part of his rental "fee" was to get a chance to play a bit part. You also saw him at the beginning of the movie "Battle of Britain". He was the driver of the German car transporting the Luftwaffe officers from base to base. He got to drive the car because -- it was HIS car. He owned it.

                        But I've forgotten his name and he usually doesn't get off screen credits.
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                        • #13
                          Hmmm...I could swear that John Thompson tried to market his invention to the army and refered to it as the "trench broom." Of course I could be wrong.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gunnut
                            M1 Carbine was designed for rear echelong troops, support personnel, and anyone whose primary job was not to handle a Garand. It takes far more money and time to train anyone to use a pistol effectively, so the brass wanted a low powered rifle. It fires a 30 carbine round, think of it as a glorified pistol. The rifle is gas operated. Loaded from a 15 round detachable magazine. Over 6 million M1 Carbines were made in WW2, the most single type of rifle every produced.
                            Just shot one of those a couple of days ago. Lots of fun and easy as hell to shoot.
                            Wouldn't mind buying one for just plain fun plinking.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RustyBattleship
                              I beg to differ with you (in a friendly and professional way of course). But the Model 97 Winchester (of which I own one) with a 20-inch cylinder bore 12 gauge barrel was merely called a Trench Gun.

                              The Trench Broom was an early type of flame thrower that "swept the trenches" because it was used in a "sweeping" motion. The user could actually be on the other side of a sandbag rivetment and hold the nozzle over the trench.
                              You could be right. I am hardly an expert on WWI weapons slang.

                              Neat stories by the way. :)
                              Last edited by Bill; 26 Apr 06,, 03:47.

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