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    A history lesson for the new generation.
    Almost seventy years ago the United States joined the Second World War. No, it wasn't on December 7th, 1941—it was 12 December, 1937. Why don't people know about that date? Because, over a period of nearly four years, America was sleepwalking thanks to isolationists and vigorous pacifistic propaganda while a huge conflict ripped the world apart. Do you think that the modern War on Terror is some tremendous conflict with a full involvement of this nation and dismal casualties? Well, it is a tremendous conflict, and vital for the survival of this nation, but we haven't suffered yet, and the scale of our participation is truly minor in comparison to what came before.

    Starting in 1928, Japan had been aggressively expanding into China. The United States had since the mid-19th century been interested in preserving the rights for all nations to engage in free trade in China, and prevent China from being divided up into colonies. To this end, our Navy maintained a strong presence on the Yangtze River in southern China for the purpose of protecting our commercial interests. The Japanese didn't like this during their aggressive drive to gain control of all of China. The USS Panay was guarding a convoy of three civilian American ships on the river engaged in trade, and was carrying ten American civilian evacuees from Nanking (evacuated during the infamous Japanese atrocities of the Rape of Nanking).

    The Panay was bombed in cold blood, prominently flying several American flags and with more painted on the deck specifically to be visible from the air, by Imperial Japanese Navy aircraft. Seriously damaged and with three dead and fourty-eight, including three civilians, wounded, the Panay sank in the Yangtze river. Soon after, more Japanese aircraft arrived and strafed the survivors in the water.

    That was when the first Americans died in the Second World War. Hitler was already rampaging in Europe, remilitarizing the Rhineland in 1936, and then quickly moving to, in short order, complete Anschluss, “Reunification” with Austria, and annex the Sudentenland. The total annexation of Bohemia and dissolution of Czechoslovakia soon followed, and then the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between Nazi Germany and Communist Russia guaranteed that Hitler could sweep the world into what is generally considered the start of the WW2 in 1939—after Americans had already died fighting against the rising tide of fascism around the world.

    In the span of less than a year, Poland was conquered, France was conquered, and with them, Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Denmark, and Norway. Britain stood alone against the whole world—none of the resistance movements in any of the occupied countries were organized yet. The only direct military help they got was from brave little Greece which stood against Mussolini's fascists and then the German Army for six months before being overrun.

    In the pacific, Chiang's nationalist China was fighting a lonely and bitter struggle against Japanese fascism in the Pacific which saw millions of Chinese already dead, and millions of more to die, and the Japanese gleefully using biological and chemical weapons against the Chinese civilian population. Japanese behaviour toward Chinese civilians sounds like a list of tortures inflicted on people by the Inquisition; yet through this all the Chinese persevered despite receiving only token aide from the rest of the world, including the United States.

    Britain was subjected in this period to months of terror bombing in which more than 27,000 civilians were killed. In all, over a period of ten months the British suffered about three thousand military and civilian fatalities in a month simply defending their homeland—the equivalent of one 9/11 happening every month for nearly a whole year! And this is not counting any British Army, Air Force, or Navy casualties which happened outside of the direct defence of the British homeland from Nazi air attack, all of which are thousands more deaths.

    The British, without allies, did not surrender. Instead they fought on, until they were broke, and then kept fighting anyway. Even gallant Britain would have collapsed and been forced to seek terms, but though we had been silent and ignoring the gravity of the threat for so long the United States of America was finally beginning to wake up. Only on 11 March 1941 did we pass the Lend-Lease Act, giving needed supplies and financial aide to Britain which kept them in the fight for the critical months to come.

    Then, only a little more than three months later, we had a new ally in the war. The Soviet Union. Treacherously attacked by Hitler's Germany in violation of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, this new ally did not appear like it would last long. Millions of Soviet troops were captured or killed in the opening months of the war, as German armies seemed to sweep up millions of troops and whole regions of the USSR in a matter of weeks, encircling and annihilating them with casual ease, destroying literally thousands of tanks, and thousands of combat aircraft on the ground. Half of European Russia was soon under the fascist grip, and hundreds of thousands had died: Millions would follow them. Only the onset of winter and Japanese focus on Southeast Asia allowed, in combination, the Soviets to counterattack and stem the tide of Hitlerian Germany at the gates of Moscow.

    At the same time the United States finally entered the war. We were not part of any grand coalition. There was no international sanction for our entrance. Just another and newer outrage. We had ignored the sinking of the Panay, and we had ignored the sinking of the Reuben James by the Nazis in October of 1941, with the death of 115 men aboard her, torpedoed before we had entered the war, and only put in a place to aide the British thanks to the great fortitude of FDR in defying the will of a still-isolationist Congress.

    In all of America there were treasonous fascist organizations and pacifists working with the media and with many celebrities—such as Charles Lindbergh—to keep America out of the war and allow the triumph of fascism in all the rest of the world. Though the Nazis and Japanese may not have been gunning for us just yet, with three-fourths of the globe in their hands or the hands of their allies there would have been little chance of national survival, and already hundred year plans were being circulated by the Japanese involving the economic domination of the whole Pacific coast. Our enemies, in their totalitarian systems, could plan ahead, while the press and the pacifistic organizations insured that the average American was kept unaware of just how grave the situation was.

    Remembering the horrors of gas warfare in the First World War and the huge casualties suffered then, and just having suffered, man woman and child, through the Great Depression, there was little desire on the part of anyone to push into this next great existential challenge, to own up to the fact that a long and bitter fight was ahead of us. We were fighting a shadow war, with our ships on lonely patrol in the Atlantic and our men dying at the hands of Japanese fanatics in the pacific, but our nation kept sleeping and dreaming pleasant dreams, vaguely aware that there was a nightmare outside.

    The Soviets were on the verge of collapse. Britain was being saved from bankruptcy only by American loans, and was having manpower shortages. Even now their ultimate victory was dicey. The Japanese were advancing in the pacific everywhere. Then they made their one fatal mistake. Without it, they might have been able to conquer huge regions of Asia and hold them, despite our weak and ineffectual economic blockade (just like modern weak and ineffectual economic blockades, which do nothing to halt the military aggression of countries). They directly attacked the United States in a cowardly sneak attack on Pearl Harbor—not noble Samurai or aggrieved asians fighting colonialism, but vicious backstabbers who were now backstabbing the country which had itself defended China from European colonialism, a China which Japan itself had now colonized. With around two thousand dead and the pride of our navy sunk in harbour (imagine the USN losing six supercarriers in a day to the Jihadis to get a true idea of this—the Cole-incident is nothing in comparison to it) we finally went to war.

    Then the second great mistake of the fascists happened. Hitler declared war on the United States only four days after the infamy at Pearl Harbor. FDR asked Congress for this declaration to be recognized as meaning a state of war existed between the United States and Germany; Congress assented, and we were now in a battle for our freedoms and our lives.

    We had no great alliance to sustain us. The British Empire, the Soviet Union, the Republic of China. Those were our only three allies. The rest which are sometimes named in a grand parade were simply squabbling governments-in-exile of occupied nations, with at best a few divisions of expatriates and colonial troops armed with American equipment to their name, in a war of tens of millions of soldiers. We had a military with scarcely a single tank in it, which had only a few years earlier had none at all and had been required to operate maneouvres with trucks done up with the word “tank” on the side, and our other equipment essentially entirely of First World War vintage.

    In three years we had totally transformed our economy, in a war which lasted less than five years in total for the open stage—after five years of shadow war for us, and many more for others. This effort required the equivalent of our whole GDP for a whole year—the equivalent of every American giving everything they made for a whole year to the government for the sake of a war. This amount of money, in comparison to what we're spending on the war in Iraq, is nearly two orders of magnitude greater even when adjusted for the fact that we have not been fighting in Iraq for as great of a length of time yet.

    The human cost was greater still. Nearly half a million, yes, half a million American servicemembers were killed in the Second World War; not just killed or wounded, but killed—or permanently “missing” for the past sixty years, without even a body to take home to their families. In comparison we have lost less than twenty-five hundred (2,500) servicemembers in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. That is less than one tenth of our fatalities in the Italian Campaign of WW2 alone (29,650), and is comparable to the fatalities in a single battle of that campaign (the Battle of Anzio, with 2,800 dead). Four times as many Americans are buried in the D-Day war cememtaries than have died in Iraq; five times as many died around the bloody island of Okinawa alone. To say we must pull out of Iraq after suffering those twenty-five hundred dead is to say that the Nazi Swastika flag should be still be flying over the French beaches of Normandy to this day.

    That is what YOUR forefathers—OUR forefathers—stood through. Their wives and children back home were not greeted with constant news of one or two men dying. That happened so often that not even the media would report it. Instead, they watched in their movie-theatres as graphic images of the fighting on Tarawa was shown. Tarawa, where one thousand and nine (1,009) Americans were killed and twice that wounded in less than four days. The result of our grandparents and great grandparents viewing those films? People volunteering for the Marines dipped downwards for a while, but war bond purchases skyrocketed. Some people shyed away from risking their lives in that slaughter, but none doubted that the right course was to keep up the pressure on Japan, and everyone was prepared to show it with their pocketbooks if nothing else. Nobody called for our troops to come home.

    In the end we brought the war to a close with the atomic bomb—not to intimidate the Soviets, but because after nearly five years of a worldwide bloodbath, casualty projections for invading Japan with ground troops reached 1,200,000 (yes, one million two hundred thousand) casualties, with more than 260,000 fatalities, or more than half again all of our other missing and dead in the whole war. In grusome preparation for this invasion, 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured to gain a leading edge on what was expected to be a huge surge of them. Thanks to the atomic bomb, we didn't need them—and we're still using them today, to soldiers who are wounded in Iraq, because all of our casualties in all of our wars ever since have not amounted to even half of the number that were expected for that single final campaign which the atomic bomb saved us from.

    There are still more than 98,000 of those medals which were forged for Operation Downfall left to issue to wounded servicemembers—and if we don't keep up the pressure in the War on Terror, we're eventually going to need many, many more. Currently, the War on Terror may seem like small potatoes to the lot of you, comparing it to the vast casualties of WW2. But that isn't to say it isn't a big deal. The media would have you believe that Iraq was like Vietnam—where we suffered nearly ten times as many fatalities a year than we have in Iraq—supposedly was, a hopeless quagmire. First of all, it's not.

    All around Iraq our forces are successful, and engaged in energetic reconstruction. Look at a map of casualties sometime—you'll see they're concentrated in a ridiculously small area of the country. In the rest of it, the Iraqis are making new lives for themselves, rebuilding, construction industries, enjoying unheard-of prosperity for the region. The media would like you to believe that all of Iraq is like just a small area of slums and desert, but it isn't. More power is produced in Iraq today than before the invasion, though the media would have you think electricity doesn't exist there. Clean water is available to hundreds of thousands of people who lacked it before. Educational opportunities with a modern curriculum have come to the children, and particularly in the Kurdish north, full-service supermarkets and other conveniences of western living are widely available.

    Unfortunately, thanks to the media, the pacifistic opposition, and thanks to our own unwillingness to stand up to the magnitude of the battle, that could change, and change for the worse. We're fighting a threat of global proportions, but we're fighting it in our sleep. The jihadis represent a branch of Islam called salafism or wahhabism, which they call themselves as “Unitarianism”, when translated (meaning the Oneness of God), which seeks to dominate the whole Muslim world, and then after it, the whole of the world, period. Saudi Arabia, our so-called ally, is spending nine billion dollars a year on propaganda for the spread of Wahhabi Islam. Many other countries in the Muslim world who pretend to be our allies are hypocritically doing the same behind our backs.

    There is no Islamic reformation which is going to save us. The enemy is the reformation, seeking to go back to the basics of Islam and wipe out what they perceive as innovation: Everything from women driving cars and tolerance of other religions to such seemingly inane things as having a picture of a loved one—something which can get you killed in a country run by these fanatics.

    If we want to liberate the Muslim world, we're going to have to create a movement for progress there, and we're going to have to do it with the boots on the ground we have now, in Iraq and Afghanistan. Like WW2, we cannot expect many allies for it—and like WW2, we don't need allies for it. We just need to rely on our own grit, and recognize this is going to be a long and bloody struggle with much sacrifice. It's not going to end in 2009 after the next Presidential elections. We're be lucky if it's over in 2039. This war will be the challenge for your generation, which will be remembered as the pivotal event of your lives, for good or ill, and which that is, is a matter entirely up to you.

    The Wahhabis and allied Shia Muslim groups are led by Nazis. Islamofascist is a good word for them. HAMAS in Palestine and Hezbollah in Lebanon use the Hitler Salute just like the Nazis did.

    You can see that here:



    Furthermore, they look for inspiration to the figure of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in the 1930s and 1940s, Haj Amin al-Husseini. Haj Amin al-Husseini was an eager supporter of the extermination of the Jews from the same time that Hitler had the idea, and in fact fled the British, first to Iraq (where he started a pro-fascist government in revolt against the British for a brief period), and then fleeing to Germany, where he met with Hitler, raised three divisions of Muslim Waffen-SS troops for Hitler's military forces, and visited the death camps where he urged the Nazi mass-murderers there to work harder and faster to kill as many Jews as possible.

    This is the real face of the “religion of peace”:




    Hitler meeting with the Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini in Berlin, where the Mufti blessed him for his efforts at exterminating the Jews, and got permission to open an Islamic studies center in Dresden in return.

    Oh, a bit of trivia for you—the now-deceased “heroic leader” of the Palestinians, Yasser Arafat? He is actually Haj Amin al-Husseini's nephew, and was his enthusiastic pupil, proud to study under and serve under a card-carrying member of the Nazi Party for the purpose of fighting to exterminate the Jews of Israel.

    This war, then, is our struggle to keep these men from gaining the power to plunge the world into a new holocaust, in which tens of millions would inevitably die. In exchange for that we have so far spent just a few hundred billion dollars, and a few thousand lives (we will suffer many more fatalities if we don't suffer these ones now). This is a second very deadly grand struggle against fascism, and if we don't take it seriously now and learn from the errors of our ancestors, we will simply suffer immeasurably for it in the near future.

    It is going to take a long time. World War Two, from start to finish, lasted seventeen years in total; we slept through most of them, and suffered half a million fatalities because of it, many of which might have otherwise been avoided. How many years of this world war are we going to sleep through? The left in America, and the media, wants you to sleep through all of it—until it is to late, until the Wahhabis have nuclear weapons, until Europe has been Islamicized, and even until the black banner of Jihad flies over the White House. They're just like the American fascists of the 1930s and the pacifists, who together colluded to keep America blind to the threat of Hitler and Imperial Japan, even when Americans died on the Panay and the Reuben James.

    How long are you going to wait? Until it's half a million dead Americans like in WW2? Or a million? Or ten million? Does a hundred million sound good if we start tossing nukes and plagues like the Spanish Flu and the bubonic plague and smallpox around? Because the Jihadis are researching biological weapons as well, and their belief in Allah and their own righteousness means they'd have no hesitation to use them. That's the sort of stakes we're playing with here, not just a few billions of dollars and even, though it pains me to say it, a few thousand lives. The real stakes are much higher, and the amount that your generation is going to have to pay up when they hit home depends entirely on how much you choose to do now.

    The media makes a vast variety of claims. They say that we went to Iraq without enough troops, that we went to Iraq without proper planning, that we've proven ourselves incapable of governing and providing security. Even though we never intended to do the last—just to liberate the Iraqis and let them run themselves (al-Qaeda, of course, had different plans, and no plan for anyone survives first contact with the enemy, so we were forced to improvise), as for the other two answers, even if you accept them, it doesn't really matter in context. Douglas MacArthur, in the disastrous battle of the Philippines, managed to leave fifty million bushels of rice behind for the Japanese rather than transport them to the Bataan—where our soldiers were starved out and forced to surrender because of it, leading to the Bataan Death March.

    And yet our country didn't surrender, and we didn't withdraw, as the liberals would seem to have us do—we fought in the Philippines to the bitter end, and then counterattacked and retook them. 700 Americans murdered in cold blood during a single day (and another 1,500 to follow them in camps in the Philippines alone, nevermind on the Hell Ships to Japan and Japan itself) just made us mad and ready to fight all the harder, even though it was the result of considerable errors and incompetence on the part of American commanders that they died in the first place. We didn't even have recriminations over the event. The same commander who lost the Philippines, MacArthur, took them back. There were no court martials and no sensational media exposes for a genuine military blunder, whereas the modern press makes them out of nothing.

    Many Muslims are straining for freedom. If we stand our ground and succeed in Iraq, as we are succeeding now (but the media is desperately trying to sabotage), then we can extend that freedom to them and liberate them from the ideological tyranny of Nazi-inspired Wahhabism. If we fail, their voices wil be snuffed out along with their lives, and the next chance to stop Islam will be when it is invading Europe.

    The pacifists would like us to never stop Islam. To never raise a hand in our own defence. They'll just be murdered or raped by the Muslims when they conquer America if they have their way, though. Women not wearing the burkha will be stoned to death, and starving children stealing bread to survive will have their hands cut off by swords. Jews and non-Christians will be hunted down and butchered, and Christians forced into a position like Jews were in the 30's in Nazi Germany. There will be no peace, but ironically, the greatest slaughter will be among the liberals themselves who now want us to surrender to the Jihadis in Iraq. They are nihilists who don't see their own future worth fighting for.

    Do you see YOUR own future worth fighting for?

    Because if you do, then the time to fight is NOW--in Iraq!! And you either get that or you don't. If you do, then join the fight in any way that you can. If you don't, then the piper will come calling later, and with a far bloodier price to exact from you, your family, your friends, and your country—possibly a price ending in defeat, subjection, and horrific mass murder, for later on we might not have the advantages that we do now. Which one you prefer—hardship now, or mass death later—is up to you. But now you know what the choice is. There is no third option of peace, prosperity, and happiness. There is only pacifism and surrender—and from that genocide, mass murder, torture, savagery, plague, and nuclear attack, or, the option to struggle now, which offers a chance for the only thing Churchill promised his people in Britain's dark days:

    Victory at all costs - Victory in spite of all terrors - Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival.

    Now it is time to make your decision. Which of those do you want?

    by Marina O'Leary

    http://p076.ezboard.com/fhistorypoli...cID=1285.topic

  • #2
    And once again, everybody forgot Canada.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
      And once again, everybody forgot Canada.
      That was written by "The duchess of zion", a pretty well known poster around the net, and board owner of the Divine Salamis BBS. I think you know her.

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      • #4
        Her!!

        I was just teasing about Canada. I do agree with the sentiment if disagreeing with some of the facts.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
          Her!!

          I was just teasing about Canada. I do agree with the sentiment if disagreeing with some of the facts.
          I know, no biggie, i was just clarifying cause i was pretty sure you know her too.

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          • #6
            In all of America there were treasonous fascist organizations and pacifists working with the media and with many celebrities—such as Charles Lindbergh—to keep America out of the war and allow the triumph of fascism in all the rest of the world. Though the Nazis and Japanese may not have been gunning for us just yet, with three-fourths of the globe in their hands or the hands of their allies there would have been little chance of national survival, and already hundred year plans were being circulated by the Japanese involving the economic domination of the whole Pacific coast. Our enemies, in their totalitarian systems, could plan ahead, while the press and the pacifistic organizations insured that the average American was kept unaware of just how grave the situation was.
            Ah yes, those organizations and individuals are alive and well today: ACLU, Sean Penn, Ted Kennedy, Jane Fonda, Michael Moore, and too many others of their ilk.

            Looks like the more the world changes, the more it stays the same.
            "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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            • #7
              And, when the next President is a Democrat who also refuses to cut and run (As I predict) what willthe twits twitter about?
              sigpicUSS North Dakota

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 2DREZQ
                And, when the next President is a Democrat who also refuses to cut and run (As I predict) what willthe twits twitter about?
                IMO the next pres is not going to be a dem because they'll nominate Hillary, the pubs will nominate McCain, and it will be one of the ALL TIME ROUTS in US electoral college history.

                But hey, that's just my prediction.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by M21Sniper
                  IMO the next pres is not going to be a dem because they'll nominate Hillary, the pubs will nominate McCain, and it will be one of the ALL TIME ROUTS in US electoral college history.

                  But hey, that's just my prediction.
                  More than Reagan-Mondale boondoggle for the Democrats?
                  "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by shek
                    More than Reagan-Mondale boondoggle for the Democrats?
                    Hehehe, i said one of sir...Reagan-Mondale is asking a lot. :)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by M21Sniper
                      IMO the next pres is not going to be a dem because they'll nominate Hillary, the pubs will nominate McCain, and it will be one of the ALL TIME ROUTS in US electoral college history.

                      But hey, that's just my prediction.

                      To be more accurate I was not predicting a Dem getting elected, just that if it happens, that president won't chicken out either.
                      sigpicUSS North Dakota

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