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patriot
25 Mar 06,, 17:42
JUST OUT OF CURIOUSITY:
"I BELIEVE THAT WW2 IS THE SINGLE MOST DEFINING MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. SO WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE AXIS POWERS HAD WON WW2.HOW WOULD HAVE BEEN THE WORLD DIFFERENT AND WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FATE OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES ESPECIALLY US AND UK"

Trajan
25 Mar 06,, 20:23
JUST OUT OF CURIOUSITY:
"WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE AXIS POWERS HAD WON WW2.HOW WOULD HAVE BEEN THE WORLD DIFFERENT AND WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FATE OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES ESPECIALLY US AND UK"

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (or is it stupidity?) and actually answer.

If the Axis powers had won...I'd probably apart of a major ruling class and a part of a world-spanning empire. Seeing as my grandfather and other family members were German, and didn't move to the USA before 1975.

huh_what
26 Mar 06,, 01:57
if they had won WW2, they would lose in WW3

Ray
26 Mar 06,, 06:10
I would be speaking better German.

Parihaka
26 Mar 06,, 08:26
I wouldn't be alive because at least 3 of my grandparents and both my parents would have been worked and starved to death by the Japanese

sparten
26 Mar 06,, 12:09
Both Grand fathers were in Burma, Great Grand Father was in ETO, yeah I would'nt be around.
I suppose Parihaka and I are the cross you all have to bear for victory in WWII. :biggrin: :)

Ray
26 Mar 06,, 15:33
And my father won the Military Cross in Burma!

He lived to tell the tale and therefore I live to tell the tale!

Cogito ergo sum

Ray
26 Mar 06,, 15:36
Both Grand fathers were in Burma, Great Grand Father was in ETO, yeah I would'nt be around.
I suppose Parihaka and I are the cross you all have to bear for victory in WWII. :biggrin: :)

And your great great grandfathers would have been the ones who thrashed the British near the Khyber! ;) :)

The proud Pathans who were never subduded by the British or the Russian in the Great Game!

Parihaka
26 Mar 06,, 21:21
Both Grand fathers were in Burma, Great Grand Father was in ETO, yeah I would'nt be around.
I suppose Parihaka and I are the cross you all have to bear for victory in WWII. :biggrin: :)
LOL :biggrin:

patriot
27 Mar 06,, 10:10
I would be speaking better German.
I see you are from India.Iam also Indian(Malayalee)As Japan was in Charge of running over India I think we would be speaking better Japanese than German.

Garry
27 Mar 06,, 13:06
Hitler was very difinite in his plans - around 2/3rd of Urkainians would be executed, as well as 3/4 of Belorussians and Russians before Urals. The proportion of local population to colonists would have been 2 local slaves per one German colonist. Germany would have taken south Ukraine, and Central Russia leaving other territories as rulled areas under German protectorate. In general it would mean execution of around 30mln of redundant population.......

This can be read in German documents in Lenin Libriary today..... scanned versions are available for public.

Officer of Engineers
27 Mar 06,, 13:06
Japan was never in a position to invade India.

patriot
27 Mar 06,, 17:59
Japan was never in a position to invade India.
Japan was actively supporting the INA led by Netaji Subash Chandra Bose.Japan could have invaded India through them or with the help of them.

Officer of Engineers
27 Mar 06,, 18:10
75% of the IJA and half their air force was tied down in the mess that was China. Hell, there was no way Japan could have won the Pacific War. Even if Hitler defeated Stalin, Stalin would have turned his attention on Tojo and killed the IJA in China in 3 weeks flat - which he did do.

In turn, that would allow the US to refocus 100% of their efforts in Europe.

2DREZQ
03 Apr 06,, 06:04
Idle speculation has it that Hitler could nave won early in Europe, but Japan in the Pacific? I've yet to hear a plausible scenario for that. The best ourcome scenario for the European war (From Germany's perspective) was: win, consolidate (including a lot of Africa), and present America with a terribly daunting scenario, then offer a peace treaty, even with some concessions that made it palitable (leave England autonomous, etc...)

bad headache, must quit typing...

Yahya
03 Apr 06,, 07:02
Slavery would be re established.

there would be no isreal.

india, pakistan would obviusly not be independant as if the tide of war turned because of the A-Bomb hitler was developing it would have taken atleast another decade or so to capture canada (where the queen supposedly would have ran away to), australia, america, etc etc etc

eastern subcontinent ie bangal region would be under japan.

now we have to realise both the german and japanese invasions where to satisfy their quench for power and establish their races as supreme over the less good ones.

so pathans would have had a big support from germany and also punjabis which is where more of aryan settlements where located. and then slowly moing eastwards the other aryan decendants who are spread over all of subcontinent would start to become the ruling elite and a new nation would have been born.
by this time the germans would have realised there are aryan in bangal and would demand its surrender to germany by the japanese and the japanese would obviusly not surrender it thus another war between the two new powers. so they would have fought till death...

OIL since russia would now be in german riech. the germans would have their own oil and since there will be no americans or british left the arab states might have been able to see independance and united. (states such as Iraq and Syria and Palastine etc)


russians would have mostly died because they where tought via propoganda to die rather then switch thus they would have fought till death.


and since texilian arjun conquored india and was a aryan. and since my ancestors migrated form texilla to mirpur..i might have been the empror?

Yahya
03 Apr 06,, 07:10
also to add

Hitler was supported initialy by the free masons, who saw the communists taking control over vast terratory via the spread of socialist parties. so hitler was their card to gain germany. but then hitler gave them the midle finger and started to occupy freemason controleld terratories which the freemasons did not like and thus waged war back.


(this is not words from a not so wise mullah, these are from history channel and discovery channel and varius other documentries)

sparten
03 Apr 06,, 08:47
You must have been watching "Conspiricies" on History Channel.

Parihaka
03 Apr 06,, 22:55
You must have been watching "Conspiricies" on History Channel.
And smoking ganja whilst doing so.

Amled
04 Apr 06,, 03:58
And smoking ganja whilst doing so.
...and reading the ILLUMINATUS trilogy by Robert Shea. :rolleyes:
Always a great favorite with the hop-heads. :)

Yahya
04 Apr 06,, 06:08
actualy i have a considerable education on ww2 and ww1 their causes and their implications to history. just like i have studied nepolionic battles/campaigns, crusades, roman battles and wars, cold war, english civil war and the role of propoganda, the role of the hitler youth in the nazi germany, the methodologies used by gerries to manipulate news and propogation methodologies for their own news. gallipoli campaign, the arab campaign in ww1, 20th century & midle east and much much much more.

but please enlighten me of the studies you have conducted and what are your conclusions?

Parihaka
04 Apr 06,, 06:22
actualy i have a considerable education on ww2 and ww1 their causes and their implications to history. just like i have studied nepolionic battles/campaigns, crusades, roman battles and wars, cold war, english civil war and the role of propoganda, the role of the hitler youth in the nazi germany, the methodologies used by gerries to manipulate news and propogation methodologies for their own news. gallipoli campaign, the arab campaign in ww1, 20th century & midle east and much much much more.

but please enlighten me of the studies you have conducted and what are your conclusions?
How splendid! May I suggest you go to this thread and give us all the benefit of your wisdom?
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/showthread.php?t=3123