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Lunatock
21 Nov 03,, 22:36
It might have been nice knowing these so called Mufti's. Like Squirt & Allxcreation.

Do tell us about your day in court Mufins :w00t

(it is rather ironic that Quran <tested> 1 justifies my feelings towards quite a few Arabic people.)

http://www.kavkaz.org.uk/eng/article.php?id=1991

Shariah news agency operating on the territory of Chechnya released an open letter to the leaders of Muslims of Russia on behalf of the Chechen Commander, Amir of Islamic Brigade of Shaheeds (martyrs) «Riyadus Salihiin» Abdallah Shamil Abu-Idris. The letter was received by the editors via e-mail. Kavkaz-Center is publishing the open letter uncut and unabridged.



In the name of Allah! Allah Akbar (God is Great!)



Open letter to leaders of Russian Muslims, who call themselves Muftis, and whom we call «Muftins» («ones who sow discord»).



Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the world, Who created us Muslims and Who blessed us with Jihad on His straight way. Peace and blessings be to Prophet Muhammad, his family, his disciples and all who follow him till the Day of Judgment!

«Lo! Those who hide the proofs and the guidance which We revealed, after We had made it clear to mankind in the Scripture: such are accursed of Allah and accursed of those who have the power to curse».
(Koran, «The Cow», 159)



The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: «Whom of the servants Allah appointed as a master, and on the day of his death he dies when his subordinates are deceived, then Allah will forbid him the Paradise».



Mujahideen of Chechnya are accusing you of genocide of the Chechen people, of hiding and distorting the Truth – the Koran and the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him), of fomenting discord among Muslims, of active cooperation with the Kafirs (the infidels), of enslaving the Muslims and of hypocrisy.



We have appealed to the Shariah Court with the charges against you. We have brought up enough evidence of your guilt to the Shariah Court. And now you bring up the proofs of your innocence if you have any. You can also send three Alims (Islamic scholars), the experts on the Shairah, if you have any among you (we guarantee safety and we will cover traveling expenses), or you can also answer in written form. You can ignore it, but it will only prove that we are right, because according to the Shariah, you are obligated to appear in the Shariah Court, if you are Muslims of course. Almighty Allah says:



«And in whatsoever ye differ, the verdict therein belongeth to Allah».
(Koran, «Consultation», 10)



Allah also says:



«Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers».
(Koran, «The Table Spread», 44)



In the war of 1994-1996 you legitimized the genocide of the Chechen people committed by Russia's leadership under the pretext of «establishing the constitutional order». Back then you did mumble something about peace and negotiations, as if on command, when we started successfully defeating the invaders. In this war you have openly supported the genocide of the Chechen people, which was started under the pretext of a «counterterrorist operation», not just verbally, but in practice also.



Along with the Kafirs, you have accused us of all sins thinkable and unthinkable, the main of which was accusation of “Wahhabism”. But you know full well that the word «Wahhab» is one of the wonderful names of Almighty Allah, which means «The One Who Grants», and the meaning of the word «Wahhabist» would mean «follower of the One Who Grants», - «worshipper of Allah», i.e. a Muslim. You made this word a common noun and committed a sin against millions of Muslims whom you and the ones like you have deceived, because it is a blasphemy to be cursing with the name of Allah. This is one of the truths that you are concealing from people.



You also made up a myth about a united and friendly family of the nations of Russia, even though Allah says:



«O you who believe! Do not take My enemy and your enemy for friends…»
(Koran, «Tested», 1)



And you are offering all of us friendship with the ungodly and with the enemies of Muslims. We do not consider most of Russians to be Christians. In our understanding, they are heathens and polytheists, but not Christians, because they have created all kinds of idols and deities for themselves.

So, who are you then, - their voluntary slaves and followers?

Allah says:

«Thou wilt not find any people who believe in God and the Last Day, loving those who resist God and His Apostle»
(Koran, «The Debate», 22)



You can’t be claiming that Russian atheists are not resisting Allah and His Apostle, can you? Or are you capable of claiming that they are living by the Koran and by Sunnah?



Allah also says:



«Muhammad is the apostle of God; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other».
(Koran, «The Victory», 29)



And what about you? When the West started bombing Serbia to stop the genocide of Albanian Muslims, you on behalf of millions of Muslims of Russia declared the protest, and today when genocide of Arabs, Palestinian Muslims is going on, you are keeping silence. We are not talking about us, the Chechens. Praise Allah, there is enough of help and sympathy from ordinary Muslims for us.



You made up a myth about some peaceful and traditional Islam, but Islam is peaceful when it is free and not trampled under the enemy's feet.



Maybe they didn’t teach you that at the KGB Higher Academy, therefore we would like to remind you of one episode from the history of Russia that stresses its «friendly» attitude towards peaceful Muslims. In the 16th century Russians captured Kazan and killed tens of thousands of Muslims. Many were baptized by force.



In commemoration of «great victory over Moslems» the Russian church placed «prostrate Moslem crescent» (depicting defeated Islam) under its cross.



For 300 years «Tatar-Mongol YOKE» was taking a tithe from Russians once a year as a tax, but not like Russian princes, who were taking two thirds from the same population. This «YOKE» did not bother the local administrative bodies or churches; it did not convert Russians to Islam by force and did not cast down crosses under the crescent (here is an interesting thing: Russians were under «Yoke» for 300 years, and we were under «peace and friendship» for 400 years).



Up until this day the cast-down crescent is under crosses on many churches in Central Russia (all you have to do is look on the cupolas of Temple of Christ the Savior in Moscow). But on the outskirts, where the Muslim population prevails, they replaced the crescent with a curved line under the cross, out of «compassion» to the locals. These crosses are not only on the churches, but they are on all attributes or Russia's power: on the coat-of-arms, on the double-headed hermaphrodite, on the banknotes, on emblems… everywhere you can imagine.



Why talk about crosses, when today the Muslims whom you deceived are carrying the double-headed symbol of Satan that depicts imperial chauvinism and genocide of Muslims? And the history has very many examples of genocide of any Muslim nation languishing in Russian slavery.



All right, we the Chechens are all «bandits», «terrorists», or «Wahhabists». But what were over five million Adygeans exterminated for, - the ancestors of modern Adygeans, Circassians and Kabardinians? Maybe they were abducting journalists and attacking poor Russia?



An do you know, o Muftis, that over a hundred thousand of Ubycheans, scattered all around the world, are dreaming of returning to their Homeland, - the area of Sochi and Adler (Southern Russia)? And Russians trumpeted that this nation disappeared as ethnos long time ago. These are the remains of once great nation, partly exterminated by Russians and partly scattered all around the world. Shapsugeans got a little «luckier». All several thousand of them were left in their Homeland (probably to strengthen the friendship of nations), and their capital was called with the name of the butcher of Shapsugean and other Adygean nations, Lazarevsky.



And do you know, o Muftis, that in order to save some power and some means, Russians were driving Nogai women, children and the elderly into reeds and burning them alive? Maybe they were terrorists too?



And do you know, o Muftis, how many Muslims have Russians exterminated altogether «to strengthen the friendship of nations»? Why ask anyway? One can tell that instead of the history of Muslims, you were studying the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. But still, have Russians ever apologized to Muslims even once? Have they ever corrected anything? Have they made up for anything? And who will be responsible for that?



What kind of friendship and what kind of peace can you be talking about? Maybe about friendship between a master and a bond slave? We would not be satisfied with such friendship. In the Holy Koran Allah says:



«O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered»
(Koran, «The Cow», 2:178)



«Prescribed» means «ordered». And Almighty Allah orders us to wage war when He says:



«Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not».
(Koran, «The Cow», 2:216)



Allah also says:



«O ye who believe! Fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that God is with those who fear Him».
(Koran, «Repentance», 123)



We are fighting against Russia and its godlessness, for our Faith, Freedom and Independence, but not against Russian bond slaves or other bond slaves that inhabit Russia.



Prophet (peace be upon him) said: «He that calls for Asabiya (extreme nationalism, tribal irreconcilability and intolerance) is not one of us; neither the one who fights for Asabiya is one of us, nor the one who shows anger out of Asabiya».



In the Holy Koran Allah says:



«Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of steeds tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others beside them whom ye know not. Allah knoweth them. Whatsoever ye spend in the way of Allah it will be repaid to you in full, and ye will not be wronged».
(Koran, «The Spoils of War», 60)



Allah also says:



«O ye who believe! Persevere in patience and constancy; vie in such perseverance; strengthen each other (have «Ribat»); and fear God; that ye may prosper».
(Koran, «The Family of Imran», 200)



Prophet (peace be upon him) said, «Ribat (preparedness for Jihad) for one day in the way of Allah is better than this world and what is in it». ( and «one day of Ribat is better than a thousand days spent in other places»)



If «one day of Ribat is better than a thousand days spent in other places», then what can you compare one day spent in Jihad to? Let us give you an example.



One man wanted solitude, he came to the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) and asked him about it. The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) answered him:

«Do not do it, because a place of one of you in the ranks on the way of Allah is better than a prayer read at home in 70 years. Do you not want Allah to forgive you your sins and ascend you to Paradise? Come out on the ways of Allah. Whoever fought on the way of Allah for a time period equal to a Fuwak (a period between milking a she-camel), he will certainly be granted Paradise».

Abu Huraira said:

«Can any of you start the prayer and not stop, start fasting and not break it as long as he lives?” They said unto him: «Who would ever be able to do such a thing, o Abu Huraira?» He said, «I swear by the One, in Whose hands my life is: a sleep of a Mujahid on the way of Allah is better than this!»
(Ibn Mubarak, «Al-Jihad» 95/1)



So what are you offering instead? «Peaceful and traditional Islam» with its cringing, depravity, hypocrisy and ignorance? Or are you offering to become the «Muslims» just like you are, who sold their souls to Iblis (Satan) and their bodies to the KGB?



For us this kind of bargain would be of great disadvantage. We have made a more profitable deal with Allah, where the merchandise is Paradise, where the way of trade is Jihad, and where the form of payment is sacrificing our souls and our property.



Almighty Allah says in the Holy Koran:



«God hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law (the Torah), the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than God? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme».
(Koran, «Repentance», 111)



Participation in Jihad points out at deep Iman (Faith) and love to Allah not verbally, but in practice. Therefore the Koran highly appreciates Jihad and slams those who turn away from it under all kinds of excuses, and rebukes them for hypocrisy and debauchery, saying that they are sick in their hearts and do not love Allah or His Prophet (PBUH).

Allah says:



«Say: If it be that your fathers, your sons, your brothers, your mates, or your kindred; the wealth that ye have gained; the commerce in which ye fear a decline: or the dwellings in which ye delight - are dearer to you than God, or His Apostle, or the striving in His cause;- then wait until God brings about His decision: and God guides not the rebellious».
(Koran, «Repentance», 24)



You are secret enemies of Islam, which is worse than overt enemies. You are no Muftis, you are «muftins», which means «the ones who sow discord». You and the ones like you, who made the religion their sinecure, have managed to lure many Muslims into the slave’s stalls of the Kafirs, while claiming that Jihad is not mandatory. At the same time you made it mandatory to fulfill the «international duty», «establishing of constitutional order» and «conducting of anti-counter- and super-terrorist operations».



By your blessing today Muslims of Russia are being sent to Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (Tatars and Bashkirs first of all), who are fighting and killing Muslims and plunging into the gravest sin – murdering a coreligionist. For what sake?



You, the ones who claim spiritual leadership over the Muslims of Russia, could have preserved them from that sin, had you really been concerned with the fate of the Muslims, but you are «muftins», you are the ones sowing discord. You could have preserved them from doing it even without violating the laws of Russia, since all Muslims have the right for alternative military service, due to their religious beliefs.



But fear before the solidarity of Muslims and your «traditional Islam» are obliging you to cringe and to seek favor from the Kafirs, instead of seeking favor from Almighty Allah. This is exactly why you are throwing thousands and thousands of people whom you deceive into the fire of hell, and down here they only have the right to kill or be killed.



A vivid example is a former commandant of the village of Old Atagi, a captain from St. Petersburg (of Tatar descent), who was killed in 2001. Conscience awakened in him; he started visiting a mosque each Friday unarmed, he started treating the villagers normally and protecting them from the tyranny by the military. But when he tried to stick up for five locals taken away for ransom to the base of 205th Brigade, it cost him his life.



Chechens witnessed how he was shot right at the checkpoint, when Russians reminded him that he was a gook, a Muslim and the same way the Chechens are, even though he was just trying to do no more than his job as a military commandant. That same evening «Vesti» news program from Moscow reported that he was killed by bad Chechens.



If these are the rights that Muslim officers have, then any rights of Muslim privates are totally out of the question. Especially compliance with elementary norms and requirements of Islam. But sure, you don’t want to be bothered with it. You are only concerned with maintaining purity of the «traditional Islam».



You, the «muftins» are very stupid but brave serfs, since you dare abolish or change the instructions of Almighty Allah. One verse from the Koran is enough to wage Jihad, where Allah says:



«And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God altogether and everywhere».
(Koran, «The Spoils of War», 39)



Is everything all right with our religion? Or is there no tumult or oppression (or where can it come from since everybody has already been oppressed and tempted?) Or are we living by the Shariah, which Allah demands from us? Are we giving our Zakat (charity) properly (at least) and it is distributed the way it’s supposed to? Or do you not get interest from your bank accounts? Are we eating only what is clean and permitted? If not, please explain it to us the ignorant ones, what is the traditionalism of Islam?



If we are «mere bandits and terrorists fighting for money and having nothing to do with Jihad”, then show us how Jihad must be conducted properly, not in words, but in practice. But with no perversions like «Great Jihad of peaceful construction and creation», which is possible only in the conditions of Independence of Muslims and when a free Islamic State is built.



Once Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was asked by one Muslim: «O Muhammad, will I be a Muslim if I declare that there is no other god but Allah, if I pray five times a day, observe the fast, give to charity, make a Hajj, but if I do not wage Jihad?» «Yes», Prophet (PBUH) answered.



The asker was satisfied by the answer and got up to leave. Then Prophet (PBUH) asked him:



«O servant of Allah, if you will not wage Jihad, then how are you going to observe these duties?» (Bukhari) How are you going to be Muslims if you do not wage Jihad?



Or do you think that the Koran became outdated for our times, like «muftin» Kadyrov believes?

Amir (Commander) of Islamic Brigade of Shaheeds «Riyadus Salihiin»

Abdallah Shamil Abu-Idris



Shariah news and information agency

Translated by Kavkaz-Center

2003-11-20 00:29:13

s_qwert63
22 Nov 03,, 00:38
kavkaz.org is a terrorist website...
you sir are a terrorist... hi

:clap:Personal attack

Lunatock
22 Nov 03,, 03:20
Originally posted by s_qwert63
kavkaz.org is a terrorist website...
you sir are a terrorist... hi

:clap:

I guess the FBI will be coming for me then...:roll

Visiting a site doesn't make you a terrorist. Little known secret. Lots of the posters here like to mess with PakistaniDefence.com and/or Jihad Unspun.com.

Thought I might as easily been called one if I ever actually suceeded in breaking a few of Matt Hales bones. Do an internet search on him btw.

You on the other hand, doing personal attacks (against a Moderator even) Are a violation of the board rules. And at least your second warning this month Mufin.

Ray
22 Nov 03,, 04:39
I could not muster up the patience to go through since that Peace Be Upon Him kept sort of breaking my thoughts.

Anyway, whatever it aims to state, let there Be Peace Upon ALL.:dbanana

Lunatock
22 Nov 03,, 05:29
Originally posted by Ray
I could not muster up the patience to go through since that Peace Be Upon Him kept sort of breaking my thoughts.

Anyway, whatever it aims to state, let there Be Peace Upon ALL.:dbanana

Smartarse. Seeing as how your location is India. Then would it help if you imagined Peace Be Apon Him was replaced with a Hindu equivalent?

Ray
22 Nov 03,, 15:20
Tunastock,

Have you any idea of a Hindu equivalent? If you don't, then you are the samrtarse.

Further, old bean, what makes you feel I am a Hindu? India is the second largest Muslim population in the world. There are Christains of all sorts of hues, then the Jews, the Jains, the Buddhists, the pagans and heaven knows how many other types. Being anything else than a Hindu does not make anyone less of an Indian I assure you.

Archetypical thoughts appears to have been embedded? Come, come, old thing. Expand your knowledge.

May Peace be Upon YOU.

Lunatock
22 Nov 03,, 20:59
Originally posted by Ray
Tunastock,

Have you any idea of a Hindu equivalent? If you don't, then you are the samrtarse.

Further, old bean, what makes you feel I am a Hindu? India is the second largest Muslim population in the world. There are Christains of all sorts of hues, then the Jews, the Jains, the Buddhists, the pagans and heaven knows how many other types. Being anything else than a Hindu does not make anyone less of an Indian I assure you.

Archetypical thoughts appears to have been embedded? Come, come, old thing. Expand your knowledge.

May Peace be Upon YOU.

Tunastock? But I prefer Dolphin meat.

Ok then. What are you then, if not Hindu?

Besides being so smart?

(Taking some artistic license from Homer Simpson) "
Ray is so smart! Ray is so smart! s-a-m-r I mean! s-m-a-r-t. :P

s_qwert63
23 Nov 03,, 00:23
What is not mentioned in that message:
http://www.fsb.ru/history/book/white/2-3.html
http://www.fsb.ru/history/book/white/2-2.html

Lunatock
23 Nov 03,, 01:07
Originally posted by s_qwert63
What is not mentioned in that message:
http://www.fsb.ru/history/book/white/2-3.html
http://www.fsb.ru/history/book/white/2-2.html

That first set of stills is available for viewing as a movie. General images forum. Nasty stuff though.

Theres also a few pics from a Chechan town that was massacred. The citizens of Shemashki laying in a mass grave.

s_qwert63
23 Nov 03,, 01:37
Massacred by who?
The federal forces or the rebels?
The fact that the rebels, tape the beheadings of their captured victims and then send them to their relatives is quite disturbing indeed.

Lunatock
23 Nov 03,, 02:04
Originally posted by s_qwert63
Massacred by who?
The federal forces or the rebels?
The fact that the rebels, tape the beheadings of their captured victims and then send them to their relatives is quite disturbing indeed.

I'd guess the Russians. Your shining heroes of righteousness. Who've plundered housesof belongings, raped and murdered Chechans in "mop up operations" And indisciminately used Grad Missles, 2000 pound bombs, and scud missles on anyone they could in Grozny.

And like the part of the book you've called "terrorism". Four Russian Soliders that were really into commiting attrocites were captured. And were executed. Two had thier throats cut, two were shot.

Yet it was Russians that would execute Chechans by slowly stabbing them with bayonets, and an incident where a female sniper was captured by Russians, and pulled apart between two trucks.

Let's not forget the Hospital & theatre takeovers.

Russian Alpha forces killed 200 or so hostages trying to storm it. And all but two or three of the people that died in the theatre siege were killed by the gas the Russians pumped into the building.

Since the Alpha Forces already had the antidote to the gas. They shot the suicide bombers, then starting emptying the bar inside the lobby. Oh but they were nice enough to take the uncouncious hostages and prop them up on the buses outside. Stll no antidote for them. At least sixty died from exposure to the gas.

Ray
23 Nov 03,, 02:49
Lunastock,

Sorry about that name 'Tunastock'. I was distracted. I was eating a tuna meal. Also, the word 'Luna' is a brand name for a very popular moped [small scooter] in this country. And with such a scary logo of yours, I can't associate a 'Luna' with that picture. Now, I am NOT getting smart on this I assure you.

My religion is not material really. Actually, I am a worshipper of Nature and Natural phenomena. Technically, I would be classified as a 'pagan' by all of those who follow regulated, regimented, dogma directed faith which they call 'religion'.

However, it galddens me that you are aware that there is a relgion called Hindu. Obviously, you are from the educated lot in the West who also are aware that there are no snake charmers, elephants, Indian rope trick guys, Maharajas and folks smoking 'bhang' [you call it 'bong'] all over the landscape as soon as you walk out of the airport!

We used to call the whites as 'sahibs', the East Africans called them 'bwana' and Mid East folks call them still as 'fresh meat for daily bombing'. Now, don't get angry. I am just joking. Its right now showing on the TV here - the latest bombing. I get so sick with all this stupidity.

Peace Be Upon US ALL.