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    How do you store them?

    How long do they stay fresh? I found some information here:

    http://www.pastrywiz.com/storage/refridgerated.htm

    Supposed if I buy ground beef, acording to the chart, it says it will stay fresh for 1-2 days if you refridgerate them. Is that right? Does it mean that after two days, I must throw the beef out regardless whether i cook it at a high temp for a period of time?

    Normally when I buy packages of chicken breast, I prepare them by cutting away the fat and then putting each piece of chicken in separate bags so that they won't stick to each other thereby necessitating thawing the entire batch. So if i want some chicken, I take one bag out and thaw it by microwave or leaving it out for a couple hours.

    Does beef taste different after you freeze them? How do you know whether beef is spoiled? When it turns brown? Does turning brown mean it is spoiled?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Blademaster
    How do you store them?

    How long do they stay fresh? I found some information here:

    http://www.pastrywiz.com/storage/refridgerated.htm

    Supposed if I buy ground beef, acording to the chart, it says it will stay fresh for 1-2 days if you refridgerate them. Is that right? Does it mean that after two days, I must throw the beef out regardless whether i cook it at a high temp for a period of time?

    Normally when I buy packages of chicken breast, I prepare them by cutting away the fat and then putting each piece of chicken in separate bags so that they won't stick to each other thereby necessitating thawing the entire batch. So if i want some chicken, I take one bag out and thaw it by microwave or leaving it out for a couple hours.

    Does beef taste different after you freeze them? How do you know whether beef is spoiled? When it turns brown? Does turning brown mean it is spoiled?
    If you keep beef chilled (not frozen) it will last 2-3 days. you can keep it longer, up to a week but must cook it VERY well.
    If you keep it frozen it will last 6 months, after this it has dehydrated so much that while it can be eaten it won't have much flavour or nutrition.
    With venison it used to be normal to hang it for two to three days. This is what is called 'game' meat, but must be cooked well.
    Meat taste always degrades after refridgeration.
    If it's uncooked and turned brown it means there has been significant bacteriological activity. Best to just throw it out.
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    Leibniz

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    • #3
      If you cook it at a high temp, you kill all bacteria anyway.

      You shouldn't leave cooked meat around for long, even if it is refrigerated.

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      • #4
        I cannot leave ground beef or any kind of beef around for too long. 3 days max!! After that it starts to change colors and when it is not the nice bright red it was when I brought it home then I cannot use it. I also usually freeze individual packets of beef or chicken so I cna thaw what I am going to use and leave the rest in the freezer.
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        • #5
          WHAT fresh meat?

          If this were the WW II years, my wife would be in jail for hoarding.
          We have a side-by-side refrigerator freezer in the kitchen.
          In a pantry/storage room I built in the garage we have a smaller cross-top refrigerator freezer. I bought that to keep sodas, beers and ice cream in.
          Next to it is an upright freezer.

          All freezers are packed so full that the defrosting air cannot circulate and everything looks like they are in the face of a glacier.

          Since the garage fridge has been taken over by my wife to store onions, potatoes, huge cans of olive oil, dozens and dozens of eggs, etc. I had to buy a beverage cooler for our soft drinks and my diet drink (similar to Slim-Fast but from Costco).

          Almost everything she buys is IMMEDIATELY put into vacuum bags and frozen. She bought this cute little machine that pulls a vacuum on special bags so she can keep everything another year or two besides the normal two to five years. I'm not kidding. One time when she was on a long vacation our daughter and I cleaned out the freezer. Steaks that were bought from a store that had gone out of business about five years before were almost coal black.

          I haven't had FRESH ground meat or FRESH steaks in THIS house in years unless it was a dinner party that suddenly came up and she ran out to buy fresh meat. EXACTLY the same kind of meat she has in one of the three freezers.

          But I have to be understanding. You see, she grew up in communist run Hungary finally escaping at the age of 10 with her mother and brother when the 1956 Revolution failed. Getting food for the day was a daily chore and they often didn't have a refrigerator or ice box to store any meat in (depending upon where the reds decided they should live). Even after escaping to Austria, all of the decent foods sent to their refugee camp were "filtered out" and all they had for 9 months was processed American Cheese. After moving to Caracas, Venezuela, food supply was again a daily chore for the next 8 years. When she finally got to the USA, they were thunderstruck by the sizes of our refrigerators, freezers and ability to buy fresh meat whenever and wherever they wanted.

          As a friend of ours once said, "If the 82nd Airborne dropped in on our street, Julia could feed it."
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          • #6
            Cool, dinner at your place then
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            • #7
              Originally posted by parihaka
              If you keep beef chilled (not frozen) it will last 2-3 days. you can keep it longer, up to a week but must cook it VERY well.
              If you keep it frozen it will last 6 months, after this it has dehydrated so much that while it can be eaten it won't have much flavour or nutrition.
              With venison it used to be normal to hang it for two to three days. This is what is called 'game' meat, but must be cooked well.
              Meat taste always degrades after refridgeration.
              If it's uncooked and turned brown it means there has been significant bacteriological activity. Best to just throw it out.
              No!!! The best steaks/beef are age dried!

              http://www.goodcooking.com/steak/dry_aging.htm

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              • #8
                Good Cooking's note from Chef Vyhnanek: This is what aged beef looks like: beware that there is much waste as the dried and sometimes moldy meat needs to be trimmed away before cooking and eating it. I aged this meat for 18 days in my home refrigerator before trimming it and preparing it for roast beef (known as a Prime Rib of Beef). See the lower right area where trimmed waste pieces of meat lie. Also notice the richer red/purple color of the aged meat, compared to the very red look you will see at a supermarket, and its firm and glossy appearance. This meat is a Prime grade rib roast which also could be cut into rib steaks or boneless rib-eye steaks known as Delmonico Steaks.
                Ah, but this is specialist stuff, much like the 'game' meat I refered to earlier. It would indeed be damn nice but you need to know what you're doing.
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                • #9
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by parihaka
                    Ah, but this is specialist stuff, much like the 'game' meat I refered to earlier. It would indeed be damn nice but you need to know what you're doing.
                    Well, yeah. That's why you test it on in-laws first.

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                    • #11
                      In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                      Leibniz

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                      • #12
                        My aunt's husband was from West Virginia where smoking and aging of meats was a common practice. While we were living in Milwaukee, she received a special package from her father-in-law.

                        It contained a specially cured ham that had about an inch of mold growing around it. She thought it must have spoiled in transit and threw it in the trash.

                        Fortunately, by the time my uncle got home, the trash had not been picked up yet and he FRANTICALLY retrieved it. He said it takes months to cure a ham like that and that's the way it is SUPPOSED to be. You just scrape the mold off and bon-apetite.
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                        • #13
                          yeah, when I was in Italy they always served dried meat for breakfast, that too yummy ones !!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Wooglin
                            Well, yeah. That's why you test it on in-laws first.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wooglin
                              Well, yeah. That's why you test it on in-laws first.
                              Good one!

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