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Old 12-17-2005, 11:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Who is the greatest Greek hero?

I would like to know in your opinion is the greatest greek hero mythological or not even though most if not all of them are still considered to be mythological
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Old 12-17-2005, 14:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would like to know in your opinion is the greatest greek hero mythological or not even though most if not all of them are still considered to be mythological
Intellectually - Aristotle
In War - Spartan 300 at Thermopylae
In Politics - Peracles or Themistocles
In Myth - Prometheus or Heracles
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Old 12-17-2005, 15:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Intellectually - Aristotle
In War - Spartan 300 at Thermopylae
In Politics - Peracles or Themistocles
In Myth - Prometheus or Heracles
intellectually i think that socrates would be the greatest because he was the first to say that "through logic we are gods" i mean withoiut him teaching plato and plato teaching aristotle io dont believe that aristotle would have the same beliefs that he had

In war i agree with spartan 300

in politics i belive that pisitratus was the greatest because if it wasnt for him athens would have remained the small village it was before he took over

in myth i would have to say odysseus
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Old 12-17-2005, 16:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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intellectually i think that socrates would be the greatest because he was the first to say that "through logic we are gods" i mean withoiut him teaching plato and plato teaching aristotle io dont believe that aristotle would have the same beliefs that he had
That isn't a valid reason for saying he's the Greatest Hero. What matters is the degree to which they stood for reason. Aristotle is unparalleled in ancient history in this regard.
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Old 12-17-2005, 19:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 12-19-2005, 00:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Pericles . the perfect synthesis of political and military leadership .
For 30 years under Pericles , Athens was the greatest city in the Mediteranean . After his death , everything went to hell . Everything may have anyway , but since he died he gets the benefit of the doubt .
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The man who invented gyros?
Sorry, I'm aware of the great cultural history of the greeks but the current living Greeks are in my bad book. They are such unfriendly persons as long as you doesn't blast your money into their asses.
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I'm part Greek, and as such have been exposed to their culture pretty well. They're fun-loving, very family-oriented people, but with a distinct distrust for non-Greeks. They're very clannish people, and their closest friends are rarely non-Greek.
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Old 12-19-2005, 15:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm part Greek, and as such have been exposed to their culture pretty well. They're fun-loving, very family-oriented people, but with a distinct distrust for non-Greeks. They're very clannish people, and their closest friends are rarely non-Greek.
From what I can tell, Modern Greeks have more in common with the modern Turks then they do with the Ancient Greeks.
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Old 12-25-2005, 17:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I would like to know in your opinion is the greatest greek hero mythological or not even though most if not all of them are still considered to be mythological
Achilles, son of Pelius.
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Old 12-25-2005, 17:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Achilles, son of Pelius.
Greatest Warrior, absolutely. The God Ares got beat down by Diogenes (I believe?), who was a mere mortal, so I have no doubt that Achilles could take on the great God of War himself

He certainly did some heroic things, but I don't know if I would put him above Prometheus, who was willing to endure days upon days of endless tourcher, to give man fire.

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Old 12-25-2005, 20:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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From what I can tell, Modern Greeks have more in common with the modern Turks then they do with the Ancient Greeks.
Never say that to a Greek person, since they despise the Turks. The Greek culture has changed considerably since its classical roots, but it is more influenced by Orthodox Christianity than any Turkish import.

Greece has been independent since 1830 and it has had a long time to shake off its hated Ottoman cultural edifices.

Damn the Turks to hell.
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Greatest Warrior, absolutely. The God Ares got beat down by Diogenes (I believe?), who was a mere mortal, so I have no doubt that Achilles could take on the great God of War himself

He certainly did some heroic things, but I don't know if I would put him above Prometheus, who was willing to endure days upon days of endless tourcher, to give man fire.
Prometheous was not a warrior hero was he?
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Prometheous was not a warrior hero was he?
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Greatest Warrior, absolutely. The God Ares got beat down by Diogenes (I believe?), who was a mere mortal, so I have no doubt that Achilles could take on the great God of War himself
hmmmm well, the greatest warrior on earth was taken down by a mamby-pamby lover-boy. so i think ares might still have him beat on the greatest warrior rank
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