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Old 07-22-2008, 20:39 PM   #61 (permalink)
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But not so called "modern"bronze, not compared to the early Shang bronze. The skill of the early Bronze masters is unsurpassed
If you compare the bronzes of Sanxingdui (三星堆) to those of Shang Dynasty (商朝). They are both remarkable but in different styles.

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Please notice, they put some Sanxingdui (三星堆) bronzes under the section of Other Shang Dynasty Artifacts.
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Old 07-22-2008, 21:14 PM   #62 (permalink)
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黃河=山東龍山
長江=南部龍山

再往西：

honan和shensi龍山

Is this slightly better

Longshan culture (龍山文化) was a Neolithic culture in China.

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Old 07-23-2008, 00:37 AM   #63 (permalink)
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aliens?

Why such an epithet for the Cantonese people?

Can we keep this thread clean to learn and not for showing distaste for people?
Just a joke. No racist implication.
Many people who know this culture say those artworks look like aliens.

I am and speak Cantonese.
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Old 07-24-2008, 21:08 PM   #64 (permalink)
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A new site of Spring and Autumn Period is found in Henan recently:

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A new site of Spring and Autumn Period is found in Anhui recently:

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Old 07-25-2008, 00:33 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Question for the Chinese posters, or anyone else who can answer:

Is there a book or series of books on the military history of ancient China in English? I think this book: Zhongguo gu dai jun zhi shi is an official history of the anicent Chinese military. Is there any chance it is in English or if there is a similar book.

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Old 07-25-2008, 04:09 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Question for the Chinese posters, or anyone else who can answer:

Is there a book or series of books on the military history of ancient China in English? I think this book: Zhongguo gu dai jun zhi shi is an official history of the anicent Chinese military. Is there any chance it is in English or if there is a similar book.

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Is this any help?

Amazon.com: The Seven Military Classics of Ancient China, including The Art of War: Ralph D. Sawyer, Mei-Chun Sawyer: Books
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:22 PM   #67 (permalink)
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That helps some, but what I am really looking for is an official history of the wars, battles, tactics, strategies, weapons, etc. employed during anicent China before the unification. There is one such book, written by the Chinese military and their official historians, and it is in the Library of Congress but it is not in English. Amazon.com: Zhongguo gu dai jun zhi shi: Books

If anyone knows if this book can be found in English let me know, or if there is a similar book using similar sources that is written in English, that would also help.
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If anyone knows if this book can be found in English let me know, or if there is a similar book using similar sources that is written in English, that would also help.
If it is in print, the British Library will almost certainly have it
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Question for the Chinese posters, or anyone else who can answer:

Is there a book or series of books on the military history of ancient China in English? I think this book: Zhongguo gu dai jun zhi shi is an official history of the anicent Chinese military. Is there any chance it is in English or if there is a similar book.

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Couldn't find the English edition of that book, perhaps you can find something useful in this forum, it’s in English.
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If it is in print, the British Library will almost certainly have it
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Couldn't find the English edition of that book, perhaps you can find something useful in this forum, it’s in English.
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Thanks for the link. I've already signed up, looks like it will answer my questions.
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dude, Three kingdoms period is sometime 500 years later from the warring states period. It occured when the Han empire fall to parts in round 200 AD. YES, ROTK is a great historical novel. If you play the Dynasty Warriors, you will find easier to read that book.
Actually, in English, "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" refers to two distinctly different pieces of literature. One of them is the novel as you noted, "San Guo Yan Yi". The novel is highly fictionalized, dramatized, and nearly romanticized. It features Zhuge Liang as a Merlin figure, Cao Cao as a villain, and Diao Chan was the most beautiful woman in all of China. In the actual history by Chen Shou, "San Guo Zhi", none of the three listed are true.

But I digress... this thread is not about the Three Kingdoms period...
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The theme of the "Romance of the Three Kingdom" is Confucianism. It just praises 'Liu Bei' and portrays 'Cao Cao' as a bad guy, since Liu Bei represented the proper Han Dynasty authority.
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The theme of the "Romance of the Three Kingdom" is Confucianism. It just praises 'Liu Bei' and portrays 'Cao Cao' as a bad guy, since Liu Bei represented the proper Han Dynasty authority.
That applies to San Guo Yan Yi only, not San Guo Zhi.
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