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i'm just waiting for "keynesian with chinese characteristics"Developing nation -- Keynes
Developed nation -- Friedman
SMART and BRAVE bunch of dead old white guys.Originally Posted by Mihais
All those who are merciful with the cruel will come to be cruel to the merciful.
-Talmud Kohelet Rabbah, 7:16.
andy,
i'm just waiting for "keynesian with chinese characteristics"Developing nation -- Keynes
Developed nation -- Friedman
The human mind cannot grasp the causes of phenomena in the aggregate. But the need to find these causes is inherent in man’s soul. And the human intellect, without investigating the multiplicity and complexity of the conditions of phenomena, any one of which taken separately may seem to be the cause, snatches at the first, the most intelligible approximation to a cause, and says: “This is the cause!"
-Leo Tolstoy
War and Peace
astralis,
you kill me -- was laughing so hard.
it could be worst, much worst -- Friedmanite with Chinese characteristics.... better kiss the world good bye.
“the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson
A represenational republic where you have to prove periodically that you have sense enough to vote. Being able to pull a lever that someone else has to show you simply isn't good enough.
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I believe, that the best form of government is one which is democratic, and one which does not allow the subject of the state to perceive that he/she is being governed, or that the government is in conflict with groups within the state. For such a government to exist, there must be honest representation of all sections of the state, in the main political representative assemblies of the state. The representatives of such assemblies, must not be in conflict with one another over perceived conflicts of interest. To assure that the government is not in conflict with the aspirations of the people, the government must give representation to all groups within the state, though the persons representing the groups, may change according to the unanimous choice of a particular group, or of all groups. The government bureaucracy must work independently from the government, and if the government machinery is ineffective, then the bureaucracy must be reviewed, first by the people of the democracy, then by the representatives of the democracy, and lastly by the main assemblies. For crime to not exist in such a state, instead of a police force, we need the citizens to interact with each other, like we do in our assemblies, so that what is termed as 'crime', will not occur in our societies. If and when a person is found guilty of a 'crime', then he must not be shamed, but he must be given an atmosphere so that he willingly accepts any penalties or censure, not as a 'criminal', but as a person who has taken some action, and must face the consequences of that action, or those actions. If society can make this a norm, then all serious crime will be eradicated from society.
I tend to favor monarchies for sentimental reasons. Some countries would have been better off retaining their monarchies (Germany, Iran). That said, I'm perfectly happy to live in the US.
My take, an effecient government system is a compactable governance machanery, designed as per the requirement of that particular nation.
two party system of the US is best suited for it, where as a multi party system of India is best suited for her. Personally I like the Swiss democracy but it wont be fesible in India. where as democracy dont seems much of a sucess in country like Pakistan, China is proving a strong socailist communism, ...I think the best form of government is the one that can take care of the people of its state which may not be of same structure for two nation yet may prove effecient enough to perform effeciently.
I see socailist system as a valueable entity, while the captilist structure a necessity for progress and be at par with globalisation and economy,
and the politicians a necessary evil to run the governance machinary :D
Historicaly the greatest leaps in Western thinking could be viewed as those of Classical Greece, from Homer to Ptolemy etc and all the 'Athens thing', the Renaissance starting in 1400s in Italy (and possibly helped by the refugees of Constantinople) to late 1600s and the Enlightnment period of the 18th and 19th Century. Future historians may consider our current period as a similar leap forward with the rise of computer technology etc...
These periods have no single form of Government as a standard, indeed each period had examples of monarchies and (limited) democracies. I am aware of Gibbons praise of the benign Ceasers but really they didn't accomplish much. What you can say about each period is that it was marked by alot of competition between neighbouring states and perhaps this is the key. Marcus Aurelius and the 'good' Roman Emperors didn't have any serious competitors of an equal status so they didn't need to innovate or try new things. Ancient Greece had inter city rivalry and the threat of Persia, the Italian city states were likewise in competition with each other as were the European nations during the Enlightenment period.
Honestly, I would say a Federalist Republic. You know, the type of government the United States has...
Everyone thinks it is a Democracy, but it is not!
(responding to original question)
This is an easy one.
A person need only consider those virtues by which a society would ideally be governed. For the sake of brevity this can be condensed into the following list: wisdom, power, benevolence. More specifically, the government of a society would ideally be ruled by those virtues in their utmost perfection or maximized form: those being omniscience, omnipotence, and omnibenevolence. It is really immaterial whether the authority in question here is singular (as in a dictatorship) or plural (as in a democracy) since if either satisfies the already listed requirements they will amount to the same thing.
The best possible form of government then, considered from a purely mathematical perspective, that is to say, a correct perspective, would be a theocracy not mediated by any terrestrial party. One does not need to believe in a god to recognize that only a god could provide perfect government. And of course nothing will best perfection. QED
Of course from a practical point of view, this recognition in and of itself provides nothing of material benefit to how we should actually govern ourselves. But if a theocracy is the highest ideal of government then the best form of government that we could hope for would be the one that best approximates the desired traits of a theocracy: those being of course omniscience, omnipotence, and omnibenevolence.
Taking these additional facts into consideration the best form of government we could hope for is one established by a sufficiently powerful A.I. And contrary to the typical cinematic depictions of A.I., the rationality of the A.I. would guarantee its perfect benevolence. But that's another argument entirely...
I would too. Interesting to see it, and it might occur if we have some sort of alien invasion. If humanity were to be united, I'd prefer this to the left-wing vision of a mono-cultural world, where everyone holds hands and suffers equally.
Spot on!!
One in which it is realized that lasting peace and stability takes compromise, that no one and no system can satisfy everyone, and that beliefs about the world can be forced on no one so everyone should disagree as constructively as possible. Any form of government can be exploited and any adapted. In other words, the Ottomans had the right idea for a while...but I don't think we've seen anything that would qualify as best in any sense of the word.
Switzerland has evolved a decent democracy. Not sure if their system can be transferred to a much larger, less heterogenous, population.
There is no horse too dead to beat.
if it worked, (and im a proud democracy loving american) wouldnt the best thing be the base form of communism? other than certain issues, the ideals behind it really arent too bad, but i suppose in a way, a republic would be the best
by the way im joking 100%. i think that a democracy somewhat like the USA could work but something like something where every single person had a vote instead of that of currupt people we elect and have no power over for the rest of their terms
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