View Poll Results: Greater man: Cicero or Julius Ceasar

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  1. 15th August 2004 23:45 #1
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    Greater man: Cicero or Julius Caesar

    I say Cicero:-)
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  2. 16th August 2004 00:40 #2
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    The Roman Empire was at it's best moments under Julius Caeser.
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  3. 16th August 2004 00:41 #3
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    He was a dictator.
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  4. 16th August 2004 00:59 #4
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    He couldn't of been a Dicatator, the Common Roman's all loved him. That's why Brutus and the other Senate members stabbed him in the back. Literally.
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    Caesar.
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  6. 16th August 2004 01:32 #6
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    He couldn't of been a Dicatator, the Common Roman's all loved him. That's why Brutus and the other Senate members stabbed him in the back. Literally.
    The common Germans loved Adolf Hitler, still doesn't change the fact he was a dictator.
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  7. 16th August 2004 02:11 #7
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    He was a dictator, whether the people liked him or not.

    Most Pakistanis like Musharraf, he's still a dictator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praxus
    The common Germans loved Adolf Hitler, still doesn't change the fact he was a dictator.
    Julius Caesar seized power and became a dictator, that doesn't mean he's like Adolf Hitler.
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  9. 16th August 2004 02:30 #9
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    I don't think Praxus was really trying to compare him to Hitler, just his leadership status.
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  10. 16th August 2004 02:38 #10
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    Yah, my point was that popularity does not determine if someone is a dictator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praxus
    Yah, my point was that popularity does not determine if someone is a dictator.
    Did somebody assert the contrary?
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  12. 16th August 2004 02:48 #12
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    I quote Lunatock, "He couldn't of been a Dicatator, the Common Roman's all loved him. That's why Brutus and the other Senate members stabbed him in the back. Literally."

    He is claiming that he could not be a dictator because he was popular with the common Roman. I then claimed that Adolf Hitler was popular as well but he is still considered a dictator.
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    Ah, I see.

    It seems to me the purpose of making this thread wasn't to compare and discuss the merits of Caesar or Cicero (two very dissimilar men, imo), but rather, a sly attempt to bash Julius Caesar because he was a dictator.
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  14. 16th August 2004 03:15 #14
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    Well, it is up to each poster to decide which way he wants to approach it.

    I don't know enough about Cicero to properly compare the two men.
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  15. 16th August 2004 03:29 #15
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    Ah, I see.

    It seems to me the purpose of making this thread wasn't to compare and discuss the merits of Caesar or Cicero (two very dissimilar men, imo), but rather, a sly attempt to bash Julius Caesar because he was a dictator.
    By all means discuss that was the purpose of the thread. I just happen to hold the position that Cicero was a greater/better person and that Caeser was a brutal dictator.

    Well, it is up to each poster to decide which way he wants to approach it.

    I don't know enough about Cicero to properly compare the two men.
    http://www.sacklunch.net/biography/C/Cicero.html
    http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/p...gleycicero.htm

    He was one of the greatest exponents of individual liberty in the ancient world. He urged Brutus to kill Caeser in an effort to salvage the Republican System and Republican Liberties.
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