Thread: Who is better general?

Originally Posted by Kansas Bear

Serbian nationalism led to the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. Serbian nationalism fueled by centuries of living under another Empire's imperialism. Their reaction, though misdirected, was the fuse to WWI. Yet, if you've read "Royal Sunset", the monarchs/countries in question could have stopped the war, but neither side(Entente, Alliance) was willing to back away.

My understanding was the direct annexation of Bosnia and Herzgovania by the Austria-Hungary led to the that in part. Before, Bosnia and Herzgovania was governed and occupied by the power in Vienna, while being under nominal rule of another empire.

referance: Edmon Taylor .... the Fall of Dynasties: the collapse of the old order

though I agree with you that Serbian nationalism was born under the scimiter of the previous empire.

Originally Posted by gunnut

So you're saying Alexander just walked in to Persia and took it over? Like a stroll into a park?

You know that I didnt say that... I specifically mentioned that he should be applauded for his military genuis they way he handeled the larger Persian armies. My point was that empire-building was alien to him. What he did was overthrow the central imperial government, and took over its satrapies. He didnt just walked there and took over, but I hate the overwheling western worship of the great empire he built ,,, which was actually there 200 years before his Majesty was born. That is what I am talking about.

Originally Posted by gunnut

You just contradicted the first part of your post. You said he didn't conquer. He took it over. Now you said he spread Greek influence by force of arms. Which is it?

I just showed that I did NOT contradicted. and if you believe that he didnt spread Greek influence by force of arms. Then I must question your beliefs.

Originally Posted by gunnut

Do not insult Greeks by lumping them with the muslims.

Do not insult the muslims by making such ****** statesments

Originally Posted by gunnut

Greeks gave us the concept of freedom and democracy. Muslims gave us freedom and democracy, as long as you are a muslim and do as they say.

That is nice and cute .... but I believe i was talking about the spread of an ideology by force of arms. Wether it being democracy, Islam or communism. It is damn wrong. Therefore, if you think something wrong with spread of Islam by the sword, then you must see something wrong with the spread of classical Greek blah blah by the Phalanxes.

Originally Posted by gunnut

Even then your safety is not guaranteed. More muslims have been killed by other muslims than any other group.

What this has to do with anything. I could say more Europieans have been killed by other Europieans, than any other group. It is beyound the point of discussion.

Originally Posted by gunnut

Yes, I do regard the contributions of the ancient Greeks to be far superior to the muslims. Call me a racist and a bigot if you want. Doesn't change the facts.

That is your opinion and well-respected. and no .. i will not call you neither racist and a bigot. But you would be well advise to keep facts and opinion seperated.

I'm going to lock this thread... I don't think it serves any useful purpose to compare such contrasting men. Furthermore, the inclusion of Adolf Hitler is not appropriate.

If there are elements of the thread worthy of further discussion, feel free to repost them under a new discussion.