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Reply With QuoteWatching it live m8 , apparently some form of gas was also used in the attack ? they have arrested a guy ?Originally Posted by dave lukins
Reports are coming in of a shooting in Denver Colorado with fourteen dead and fifty injured. Witnesses say a gunman wearing a gas mask opened fire at the cinema complex in Aurora, at a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises.
Watching it live m8 , apparently some form of gas was also used in the attack ? they have arrested a guy ?
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found a pretty good update link on reddit
Denver resident here. Reddit, I'm doing my best to update this. Watch the live stream.
ABSTRACT
Shooting at the AMC Century Cinema: map, local police scanner. Bomb was may have been confirmed. It certainly sounded like it. Apparently a bomb may have blown up a part of a theater at the Dark Knight Rises premiere. Although the news isn't corroborating this right now, it definitely sounded like it on the scanner. Actually, it was probably the tear gas canisters.
Theater 9 (epicenter), Theater 8 (some hit), Theater 16 (people heard tear gas canisters)
ALL TIMES IN MDT, AM
1:27: "Bring as much crime scene tape as you can"
1:28: Aurora PD merging communications with Denver PD
1:35: Shooter wearing green camp pants
1:37: bomb squad is there, bringing in K-9 units. possible other bombs
1:40: 18 ambulances on scene
1:41: 9news story posted.
1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.
1:43: Report of a bomb going off in a theater.
1:45: Patients being transported to Denver Health
1:47: Command staff briefing. This is huge.
1:49: Car, Tennesee plates, Hyundai, license 074-VPD. third to west, in front of doors. Possible bomb. Main entrances of mall covered. Bomb squad moving in.
1:53: Canine units coordinating at SE entrance between JC Penney's and the food court. May be a bomb in there. Theory that bombs may be in front of theater.
1:55: New evidence for shooters. That's plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.
1:56: One shooter at large, one in custody. From Facebook: Someone set off some little party poppers in our theatre, next thing I know someone runs in and said there was a shooting. We huddled down into the seats because people were outside the exit. I was fortunate enough to get home safely with my sister but a few friends are still stuck there.
1:57: Due to bombs, police relocating all units to S of Dillard's. Open door was in Macy's. Suspicions of bombs there.
2:01: Submitted to Reddit. Second device possibly found, setting up a "unified command"
2:06: On /r/denver.
Comment from ThePenguinist: My best friend was at this. She said it happened about 30-40 minutes into the midnight premiere. Someone burst through the door and started shooting tear gas and then a gun. The only reason they got out was because they hit the ground and went for the door on their bellies. OMFG.
2:04: MSNBC tweets the story.
2:06: Secondary explosive device found in front of theater
2:08: Bringing K-9 unit to the command post.
2:14: Indian male found as witness. People (witnesses) moving to the food court entrance
2:18: Witnesses being transported to Gateway High School. There are 100 witnesses.
2:26: Story on MSNBC here
At least 20 people were hurt following a shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., police said Friday. The incident occurred at a cinema showing the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises," a police official told NBC News. One suspect was in custody, police said. It was unclear whether other suspects were involved. The injured were being transported to three local hospitals. A bomb squad was on site at the Century 16 movie theater, police added.
2:28: Theatre 9 going to Gateway HS. Everyone else is triaged. No vehicles allowed to leave. Witnesses being photographs.
2:30: Water jugs being moved.
2:36: Called the Denver Batman massacre by the Belfas Telegraph
2:42: "Possible older cop car-type seen fleeing the scene"
2:45: Which ambulances going where: 5 to Denver, 14 to University, 4 to Children's, 3 to Aurora South, 2 to Parker, 2 to Swedish
2:47: From 9News: 15 mins into movie, popping heard. People thought it was part of the movie. Saw material coming through the wall. Chaotic. Caused a scramble. Several injured people escorted into ambulances. Flow of ambulances slowed down, flow of police has not. SWAT teams there. Theater 9: Guy in body armor. "One of the largest scenes I've seen in my journalistic career."
2:52: Several police cars surrounding a vehicle. Possible explosive devices inside.
2:54: Tuned in to the 9News stream.
2:58: Newscast from Gateway HS. Witness is talking. People heard explosions and gunfire. No idea what happened. One shooter had a gas mask and was throwing tear gas.
2:59: Scanners report knife pulled on someone. WAY far away from theater. May be unrelated.
3:01: Someone reporting hand pain outside the theater.
3:02: Confirmed: At least 10 killed, 39 injured. Theaters 8 and 9 were sold out, and that's where the shooting took place. 9News confirms that one person is in custody.
3:02: Nothing found inside the mall so far. Dogs coming out.
3:06: Witness interview from earlier being replayed. Witness in Theater 9 was young woman. She described a man about 6' tall kicked through the door in a riot helmet and bulletproof vest. He was completely covered in all black, with goggles. After that, she and her boyfriend dropped to the floor. They got up, ran through the emergency exit. Shooter made his way up the stairs and started shooting people with the shotgun.
3:10: News is stalling until the police chief address.
3:15: Press conference: Gas released, gunman opened fire. Only know of one gunman. Police officers respond, find the gunman outside of the theater, carrying gas mask, rifle, handgun. One additional weapon found inside. 50 were hit. 14 confirmed dead.
3:15: Comment from elcoolerick: I live in Aurora, CO, Thought I'd share. "We were 20 min into the movie when the fire alarms started going off. We thought it was a prank. Then emergency intercom came on say there was a situation and we need to evacuate immediately. Next thing we know there was a police officer was outside the emergency exit with a shotgun yelling at us to run as far away from the theater as possible. We run out. There were people covered with blood every where with what looked like bullet wounds. Kids were crying . It was a terrible scene. Talked to some people, they are saying a man came into one of the theaters threw an explosive device and started shooting." -from a guy that was there.
More info from friends. "I was in the theatre, 9 people are dead shooting started inside the theatre and went to the back of the theatre. 3 people got show few rows infront of me and cops are up there with the SWAT with automatics and everything.It was scary. The first shots that were fired everyone stayed calm because they thought it was stupid kids with bottle caps. 2nd wave was fired the niggas ran out the theatre and thats when hell broke loose. Everyone was vulnerabe even as they left through the emergency exits" -KC Cannady
second part doesn't sound intelligent, but posted for historical reasons
3:30: AR-15 was the gun potentially used. One shooter or two? Many questions and very few answers other than a new death toll after the press conference. Keep your thoughts with the victims and their families.
3:42: More testimonies. Babies and small girls shot. News anchors getting emotional. Reports that the suspect had explosives in his apartment, which is also being searched.
3:48: Another /r/denver post from WaterSnake: here
3:49: More confirmation. 14 dead. 50 injured.
3:58: damian001 finds a video of the shooters aftermath. Warning, graphic contents.
4:01: We beat 9News on the video. The video is extremely graphic, and they aren't showing it with audio.
4:04: "No reason to believe there is a second gunman"
4:06: 10 died at the theater, 4 died at the hospital. 50 others had injuries.
4:13: 911 calls and police radio being played. They're talking about the tear gas.
UPDATE: Turned into a selfpost: Comprehensive timeline: Aurora Massacre : news
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What's the point in killing people on random? I think people started caring more about their pets then about other people.
Later in the news someone will interview this person's neighbor and everyone will say that (s)he was quiet, pleasant neighbor.
RIP to the victims and may God help their close ones.
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To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
What will this mean for gun owners in USA ?
"When England was a kingdom, we had a king.
When we were an empire, we had an emperor.
Now we're a country
Anti-Gun crowds are already out with wide open throttle. They don't realize that if the shooter (s?) did not have access to guns they could easily carry out the massacre by means of a homemade bomb or some sort of poisonous gas and probably kill far more people.
The Time Square attacker was not carrying a gun at all.
RIP to the fallen and heartfelt condolences to their loved ones left behind.
Yes, it's always about the gun first, not the tormented mind of the shooter and the cracks in society that lead to these things. But, hey, that's politics.
Reports say the shooter had been the victim of bullying. Lately, there has been an uproar about bullying and much said and done in the defense of people who react to it. Could that have caused the shooter to feel justified in lashing out? No doubt the shooter is mentally screwed up.
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Truly sickening and sad , RIP to the victims .
"When England was a kingdom, we had a king.
When we were an empire, we had an emperor.
Now we're a country
Mr Bloomberg is asking for a wake up call ref guns / ownership , well good luck yanks , im hoping you dont go down the same road as the UK , everyone has the right to protect their selves , if someone is shooting at you , shoot back is the answer ,,sadly in the UK only criminals have them .
"When England was a kingdom, we had a king.
When we were an empire, we had an emperor.
Now we're a country
Former Leader of the National Party has already used the shooting as vindication of the 96 gun control laws here in oz, and that since your allegedly 15x less likely to be murdered here than in the U.S, you should factor it into your Travel plans.
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If more people had guns, this guy would not have been able to use a packed theater as a private shooting barrel. Colorado is a right to carry state but apparently no one in the theater was armed.
I would be strongly hesitant to suggest that more weapons would mean less deaths. This was a crowded theatre in the dark. If more armed people had been armed, you would have a shooting gallery as each and every shooter will shoot any and all shooters he does not recognize, especially in the dark.
These are not disciplined combat units where they are trained not to shoot at unidentified targets. These are people fighting for their lives.
Plus, this was a whacko. If there were guns, he would have used a bomb.
Chimo
Sir, stadium style seating would have let those who might have been armed and sitting high fire down shooter and if a couple of armed citizens ende dup shooting each other so long as the main shooter died then so be it. 12 dead including a baby, 11 in critical condition with gun shot wounds to the head, torso and neck (including the mother of the baby) and 38 more less seriously injured. Most of the victims were teenaged kids as well.
Though the shooter is a deranged nut-job the act itself was terrorism plain and simple. Armed citizens likely would have saved lives.
I am not at all comfortable with your scenario. At worst, you have a firefight with a few shooters shooting at anyone and everyone with a sidearm and with a whole lot of civilians caught in the crossfire.
Chimo
Terrible thing this. There is something about the familiarity of the surroundings & the mundanity of people going to see a movie that makes this seem particularly horrible. Makes it seem like any one of us could be a victim.
Well Tankie, if that is true (and you know it isn't) fortunately they don't use them anywhere near as often as US criminals. You guys just had the lowest number of murders in a year since 1983 - 550 in total. Even better than Australia per capita (and we are low). I'm not sure on the US figures for last year, but in 2009 it was over 13,000 murders. In 2009 there were 39 firearms murders in the whole UK out of 650 murders (the 550 figure for last year is England & Wales only). The US figure for firearms murders in 2009 was over 9000. England & Wales have a population around 1/6 of that of the US. The whole UK is 1/5, so you can do the math yourself. If that is the result of UK policies that mean only criminals have guns then bring it on.
]Crime hits 23 year low as murders plummet - Telegraph
As for the impact of this on US gun laws - I'm betting little to none. The die was cast decades ago.
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