Thread: US To Shoot Down N. Korean Rocket?

Originally Posted by Optimus

You would be in the wrong if you shot it down, because every country has the legal right to launch a satellite without interference.

If indeed it was a satellite which has pretty much been proven false and nothing more then a cover for another one of Kims immature stunts. Like mentioned before surround NK with a few AMB shield batteries. Russia and China dont like the idea and they will start to pressue him one way or another.

Originally Posted by Merlin

An UN draft has now been agreed by the five permanent members of the UNSC plus Japan. This draft has to be passed by all 15 members of the Council.

Major powers agree new NKorea sanctions text

The above draft has been presented to the UNSC which voted to approve it.

Then, this action below by N Korea in response to this UN statement is expected. Now, what next.

North Korea to Quit Nuclear Talks After UN Statement

April 14 (Bloomberg) -- North Korea said it will withdraw from six-nation talks aimed at dismantling its nuclear program, after the United Nations Security Council condemned its April 5 missile test.

Kim Jong Il’s regime will “never again” participate in the talks and won’t be bound by agreements produced by them, the Foreign Ministry said today in a statement carried by the official Korea Central News Agency. The government will restore nuclear facilities it had disabled according to previous accords and “actively review” building a light-water reactor.

North Korea has “no choice but to further strengthen our nuclear deterrent to cope with additional military threats by hostile forces,” the ministry said.

“This is not bluster,” said Kenneth Quinones, former U.S. State Department director of North Korean affairs and a professor at Akita International University in northern Japan. “It’s pretty clear the North Korean generals are firm in the saddle and have convinced Kim Jong Il that his best option is to first play his military card.”

The 15-nation UN panel yesterday unanimously adopted a statement that said the launch was in “contravention” of a 2006 resolution barring North Korea’s development of missile technology. ...

So now its finally come to light what was known all along. Screw Kim and turn his regime inside out from all sides. Just think how much aid he bilked the world for knowing he would never live up to NK's end of the deal the entire time. Anyone for revisiting the Korean era this time no cease fire.:P Just bomb the nuclear sites .All of them and take out the power grid as well.

Just bomb the nuclear sites .All of them and take out the power grid as well.

Leaving the average North Korean in the dark would not be much more of a punishment then sending them to bed without dessert.

Originally Posted by Swift Sword

Leaving the average North Korean in the dark would not be much more of a punishment then sending them to bed without dessert.

No, but damage to all nuclear sites will bring Kim back to the table. Angry or Not who cares. I have seen much footage on NK and you are correct in your comment since they only get but so much per day lighting wise.But bomb those nuclear facilities and cut all aid and see what happens after say 6 months of duldrums.And when they come to complain ignore them until you get concessions one way or another.Time to play hardball with a hardhead.

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

No, but damage to all nuclear sites will bring Kim back to the table. Angry or Not who cares. I have seen much footage on NK and you are correct in your comment since they only get but so much per day lighting wise.But bomb those nuclear facilities and cut all aid and see what happens after say 6 months of duldrums.And when they come to complain ignore them until you get concessions one way or another.Time to play hardball with a hardhead.

Oh I was just trying to be funny as I am sure they do not get dessert either.

Getting back on topic: you may have just penned the final analysis. If they don't play ball, we throw a big, heavy one at them and let them choke on it.

We have "bunker buster" weapons. I wonder if we could make a radiological, concrete penetrating bomb that was designed to leave as small a whole as possible yet spread some sort of isotope into their nuclear fuel storage to pollute the fuel or otherwise make it useless or more difficult to handle/process/whatever you do with that stuff.

Originally Posted by Merlin

The above draft has been presented to the UNSC which voted to approve it.

Then, this action below by N Korea in response to this UN statement is expected. Now, what next.

North Korea to Quit Nuclear Talks After UN Statement

N Korea is coming soon to a situation where their nuclear and missile sites may be bombed.

If this happens, China and S Korea will face the situation where large number of refugees will enter from across the borders or the seas.

Then next, it depends very much on whether N Korea has hidden sufficient retaliation capabilities, say underground.

New unknowns are surfacing in N Korea. What are they really up to? This is how Christian Sciene Monitor sees it.

What is North Korea thinking?

Apr 14, 2009 [CS Monitor] Washington - The Obama administration demanded Tuesday that North Korea "cease its provocative threats" towards the international community – in particular its fresh vow to restart its nuclear programs. The response suggests that, so far, the White House is assuming that the pariah country is still interested in its standing with the international community.

Pyongyang is threatening to kick out international inspectors and fire up its shuttered nuclear facilities in protest against a UN Security Council statement Sunday that condemned its recent missile launch. The threat is seen by many experts as being in the same vein as the numerous tantrums the isolated North Korean regime has thrown in recent years. This one could be testing the US to see what gains can be eked out of the new administration.

Yet some longtime Korea analysts believe something different may be going on this time. The swiftness and comprehensiveness of North Korea's response to a relatively soft UN reprimand suggests a new strategy may be taking hold in Pyongyang – perhaps one embracing even greater isolation. ....

Pyongyang is widely assumed to act principally with the response it will get from the US in mind. What North Korea is really up to, some experts say, is testing a new American president who has emphasized dialogue with adversaries, in particular Iran. "They want to wring additional incentives out of the US, so the big question now is: What will Obama do?" says Bruce Klingner, a northeast Asia expert at the Heritage Foundation in Washington.

But that assumption underestimates the importance of domestic issues and power struggles, especially with reclusive dictator Kim Jong Il potentially weakened by illness, Mr. Walsh says. "There's a possibility we can't ignore: that this is about the military and a leadership struggle inside the country," he adds. "Maybe things have changed in Pyongyang." ....

But if the scenario has changed in Pyongyang, even its principal partner to this point, China, may count for less as North Korea's leaders sort out their pecking order.

The potentially worrisome consequences of a return to self-isolation for North Korea are numerous – beginning with the political impact it could have in neighboring countries, including Japan. "It would strengthen Japan's right wing," says Walsh.

But what the international community does now will matter in determining North Korea's future actions, says Mr. Klingner of the Heritage Foundation. "North Korea has never been punished for belligerent behavior, and to continue that pattern now would only confirm for them what they can get away with," he says.

No one should be surprised if Pyongyang follows its statements with a flurry of activity around its nuclear facilities, in particular its nuclear reactor at Yongbyon. How the US deals with that, Klingner adds, will be the greater test of a US administration that has yet to establish a clear approach to the troublesome regime.

"From the North Korea point of view," Klingner says, "it makes perfect sense to raise the tensions with a new president and see how things play out."

CNN) -- North Korea threatened to conduct a nuclear test and more ballistic missile tests if the U.N. Security Council doesn't withdraw its condemnation of Pyongyang's rocket launch earlier this month, the state-run Korean Central News Agency reported.


A photo released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency showing the recent rocket launch.

The U.N. Security Council "should promptly make an apology for having infringed the sovereignty of [North Korea] and withdraw all its unreasonable and discriminative 'resolutions' and decisions adopted against [North Korea]," a spokesman for the North's Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

"The measures will include nuclear tests and test-firings of intercontinental ballistic missiles," the unidentified spokesman said.

The statement also said Pyongyang will start building a light-water nuclear power plant and begin production of nuclear fuel.

The Security Council condemned the April 5 rocket launch as a violation of a 2006 resolution that bans North Korea's ballistic missile activity.

North Korea, angered by the Security Council's unanimous vote, has threatened to walk away from the six-party talks aimed at disarming the country of nuclear weapons. It has said it will restore its disabled nuclear reactor.


North Korea has begun reprocessing fuel rods, its Foreign Ministry said Saturday, according to state-run media.

"The reprocessing of spent fuel rods from the pilot atomic power plant began as declared in the Foreign Ministry statement dated April 14," a ministry spokesman said.

"This will contribute to bolstering the nuclear deterrence for self-defense in every way to cope with the increasing military threats from the hostile forces


*IMO I say we help them with the nuke tests. But on a much larger scale. Obvioulsly somebody has been peeing in Kims water supply again. Where do they get them from?