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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
    This being said, I have to say that the lack of leadership is most appalling to me. Neither candidate has captured the heart and soul of the American people. It makes me question that if neither candidate can lead the American people to a resounding election victory, then why would anyone expect either to lead the world governments?
    Agreed. But, it is worth taking a chance that someone else might do a better job than what we are dealing with now, and for another four years. With that said, together with what I am about to tell you, is why I am voting Kerry. I worked in the legal field closely with litigation lawyers, and as a paralegal professional, which is why I am against big companies, and for civil rights, and rights in general, of the less fortunate. You can say what you want about lawyers, and some of it is true, but prosecuting attorneys are a whole different type of people, and I highly respect them. Prosecutors do not get paid near the money they would make in private practice, so it is their compassion in the definite lines they draw between right and wrong that drive them. I researched Kerry's record, and found what I was looking for, which was no surprise to me. While Republicans began at the start of their campaign ripping at Kerry's "record," which they have since stopped, partly due that people began researching it , and Kerry's approval rating began rising. Kerry spent most of his time writing legislation and attempting to get his legislation passsed, while pursuing international drug lords, and was quite successful. He also aided in getting the budget passed in the Clinton Administration. Kerry has the backbone of a prosecutor, which tells me that he will not stop at bringing terrorists to justice, and no matter what is said about Kerry, he has stood his ground on behalf of people, on the pivotal "right v. wrong" issue, which will help tremendously in all of the international corrupt issues surfacing now.

    Anyways, that is my reason for not voting for Bush and taking a chance with Kerry, because I can relate to his kind of person very much so.

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    Vooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooo! Start celebratin fellas! Tis the night to get all liquored up!

    Bible Belt faags need to snap out of their homo erotic dreams and delusions because today is Bush's last god-damn day!

    kerry is comin to town, and he's gonna clean house and send all them cheese pumpers packin back to their bible belt states!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lulldapull
    Bible Belt faags
    wasnt this guy warned already?
    Whoever is unjust let him be unjust still
    Whoever is righteous let him be righteous still
    Whoever is filthy let him be filthy still
    Listen to the words long written down
    When the man comes around- Johnny Cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulldapull
    Vooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooo! Start celebratin fellas! Tis the night to get all liquored up! ... kerry is comin to town, and he's gonna clean house and send all them cheese pumpers packin back to their bible belt states!
    I hear ya !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulldapull
    i have personally met many an Iraqi "Christian" A-raanb, one of them neanderthal looking ones who conveniently call themselves 'Assyrian', and vehemently deny that they ain't A-raanb, and as soon as you turn around they start chattng in that disgusting language!
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    after hearing stories from these Assyrian monkeys
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    If it wasn't them it was some God-damn 2 cent illegal Pollock or Ukrainian!
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    God one of the two "marines' asked a couple of Pollocks if they had green cards
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    bush the bible faagot will be thrown out
    I asked you to stop nicely. That's another warning. You're allmost out of chances.
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Awe ........ our christian fundo buddies are losing it!

    AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaa



    it wouldn't matter tomorrow boys! cuz Kerry is comin to town!

    VooooooooooooooooooooooHHHHHoooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo

    I can't God-damn wait!

    P.S. This is what you get for running the country into the ground on one fundamentalists bogus and venemous religious 'convictions'!

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    Julie, I find it ironic that we are arguing about racist remarks you think I made, and yet you seem to enjoy Lull's posts that are jam packed with racial slurs and swearing. You seem to pick and choose what is racist and what is not, please clarify....

    For the record I'm no "Christian Fundo", I'm moderately religious, and I too think Lull has crossed the line by miles. I myself recieved a warning about the "usefull idiots" phrase, to which I respectfully offered an appology and complied with the request to stop using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
    I'm afraid that there is a disconnect here. Allow me to expand on my explaination. Ottawa ordered the Department of National Defence to start planning for a possible action in Iraq. We sent a staff to CENTCOM to start seeing where, how, and when we could participate.

    Our then PM Jean Chretien started to question POTUS Bush's evidence. The result was that we were no longer invited to several CENTCOM meetings, not having a need-to-know.

    Chretien sent our Minister of National Defence John McCallum going on hands and knees to SECDEF Rumsfeld to beg to allow us back into those meetings. We've got approval from the Prime Minister's Office to offer up a reduced Brigade Group (4000 people) for action in Iraq.

    Failing UN approval, we withdrew from Iraq and committed to the ISAF in Afghanistan instead which was a surprise to everyone, including the Chief of Land Staff ... but not apparently, SECDEF Rumsfeld (I've got the feeling that this was the SECDEF demanded we do Afghanistan if we don't do Iraq).

    Thus, from the Canadian Forces' PoV, we've gone through all this simply because we had thought everyone had decided the Iraq action was the right one, including our political masters. So, it was a shock to us when this 180 degree came about.

    Every government has the duty to decide what is best for its country, not the UN. We've gone through all this planning and preparation because we had thought our government had done the soul searching before sending us into Harm's Way (looking back, I should have known better. A Government doing soul searching?). To us, it was a coward's way out of not standing up and taking a stand. Iraq was either right or wrong on its own merits, not because the UN say so.



    You give me far too much credit. I was at most a Bde lvl officer (5-6000 men). If you think right now is bad, you don't want to see how bad I can screw things up simply because I am not qualified at that level.

    This being said, I have to say that the lack of leadership is most appalling to me. Neither candidate has captured the heart and soul of the American people. It makes me question that if neither candidate can lead the American people to a resounding election victory, then why would anyone expect either to lead the world governments?
    Very interesting insight into what acctually went on. I for one am proud of what our boys are doing, where ever they may be doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingassassin
    Julie, I find it ironic that we are arguing about racist remarks you think I made, and yet you seem to enjoy Lull's posts that are jam packed with racial slurs and swearing. You seem to pick and choose what is racist and what is not, please clarify....

    For the record I'm no "Christian Fundo", I'm moderately religious, and I too think Lull has crossed the line by miles. I myself recieved a warning about the "usefull idiots" phrase, to which I respectfully offered an appology and complied with the request to stop using it.

    Whaat??? feelin the pinch of 'preferential treatment'????

    get used to it! and grow a thicker skin all of you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingassassin
    Julie, I find it ironic that we are arguing about racist remarks you think I made, and yet you seem to enjoy Lull's posts that are jam packed with racial slurs and swearing. You seem to pick and choose what is racist and what is not, please clarify....
    Why are you flip-flopping? First you say you weren't making an ethnic slur by referring to southerner's as "hicks," and had it justified by a Moderator. Okay, so then I decided to become less senstive to the descriptives [or as lulldapull said, "I got a thicker skin"], and now you are wanting me to recognize the same in lulldapull's posts?

    BTW, I am a moderate non-fundo Christian. The take I get from Lulldapull is that he is not bias to any race, religion, or politician, he just dislikes, and mocks the extremism of each of them, which is fair. Too much of something (extremism/fundamentalism) is not a good thing, whether it be religion, politics, whatever, and I feel lulldapull portrays that in his posts, and I respect that. You, on the other hand, have you mind made up about things, and attempt to degrade the ones who do not agree with you. I do not respect that.

    If that is not enough to clarify, then that was my best shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    Why are you flip-flopping? First you say you weren't making an ethnic slur by referring to southerner's as "hicks," and had it justified by a Moderator. Okay, so then I decided to become less senstive to the descriptives [or as lulldapull said, "I got a thicker skin"], and now you are wanting me to recognize the same in lulldapull's posts?

    BTW, I am a moderate non-fundo Christian. The take I get from Lulldapull is that he is not bias to any race, religion, or politician, he just dislikes, and mocks the extremism of each of them, which is fair. Too much of something (extremism/fundamentalism) is not a good thing, whether it be religion, politics, whatever, and I feel lulldapull portrays that in his posts, and I respect that. You, on the other hand, have you mind made up about things, and attempt to degrade the ones who do not agree with you. I do not respect that.

    If that is not enough to clarify, then that was my best shot.

    Thats right Julie, the funny thing is that these A_raanb Christians that you run into, the so-called "Assyrians" are nothin but the same camel jockey stock from iraq or Syria. They are 100% A-raanbs and they try so hard to say otherwise to ppl, by arguing that they are "christians" and somehow mysteriously that separates them from their dust buddy cousins! , And like I said as soon as you turn away from them they start talking in their A-raanb language

    Man talk about an inferiority complex!

    See they know that nobody likes camel jockeys here, so the instinct is to drop the "turd-world" baggage, and move away from it! but you can't change your semetic features now can you???

    The reality is that unfortunately the U.S. Govt. is very actively recruiting these types of ppl, and strongy encouraging them to go back to Iraq to enforce "the Neocon" writ.

    As a matter of fact when the 54 Iraqi recruits got slaughtered recently they were instantly replaced by upto 270 imported "Assyrian" cadres around Baghdad!

    Unfortunately each and every single so called 'Assyrian' I have met here has been full of venom!

    And we are all free to express our opinions on fundos and impressionable minorities or low income clueless types from our country's innards! if not then we might as well hang a God-dam:

    " Republican/ Neocon/ right wing fundo forum"

    sign on this forum, and call it a day.

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    Lull,

    Maybe you could tone down a wee bit?

    Your views are interesting and even colourful in the language, but a modicum of toning down of irreligious wording would work wonders.

    Being a sub continental, I have seen you bash your country of birth, their leaders and also your religion in a rather irreligious and contemptuous way in the vernacular, but then I reckon there are still people who hold religion in the US and elsewhere a bit more with respect than you.

    I sure would miss your rather forthright views if you are banned since you present another viewpoint from everyone and personally I concede that it makes me think.

    Lets not lose you.

    Temper your wordings a wee bit. I am aware that the freedom of speech and other freedom of the US must be heady, but then one must take it easy.

    If I have gone beyond my brief in this post, do overlook look it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    Lull, Maybe you could tone down a wee bit?....Lets not lose you.
    I think Confed maybe considering putting you on that "ban wagon" Lull, and I don't want to lose you either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulldapull
    Whaat??? feelin the pinch of 'preferential treatment'????

    get used to it! and grow a thicker skin all of you!
    I doubt for much longer....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    Why are you flip-flopping? First you say you weren't making an ethnic slur by referring to southerner's as "hicks," and had it justified by a Moderator. Okay, so then I decided to become less senstive to the descriptives [or as lulldapull said, "I got a thicker skin"], and now you are wanting me to recognize the same in lulldapull's posts?

    BTW, I am a moderate non-fundo Christian. The take I get from Lulldapull is that he is not bias to any race, religion, or politician, he just dislikes, and mocks the extremism of each of them, which is fair. Too much of something (extremism/fundamentalism) is not a good thing, whether it be religion, politics, whatever, and I feel lulldapull portrays that in his posts, and I respect that. You, on the other hand, have you mind made up about things, and attempt to degrade the ones who do not agree with you. I do not respect that.

    If that is not enough to clarify, then that was my best shot.
    Right so you see racism selectively then. As usual you put the blame back on the other guy.

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