Thread: Bush and Rumsfeld and all them Neocons should just God-damn Resign!

I think ppl here need to sit back and quit having delusional spasams about this ridiculous war.

Whats truly happeneing here is this gay and ill conceived notion that this 2 cent ass-wipe Bush has some how come upwith that 'fighting them over there', will produce results!

God what a complete idiot! I swear to god there are mouzlums from all over this God-damn planet dying to get to iraq just so they could go near one of our soldiers and blow up their ass, so they can go meet their arabian maker or what ever the heck them god-damn 72 'Doe eyed virgin boys'!

We have just given these camel jockeys a God-damn purpose to Live!

Iraq has now officially become a gateway and a magnet for fundos to attain their 'martyrdom'! They are Goddamn flocking to Iraq like there is no tomorrow!

Even if we send another 100,000 troops there this bullshiit wont end. It has already become another vietnam. Ppl pouring in from Saudi Arabia Yemen, eqypt Jordan, practically the whole God-damn middle east just looking for any American to kill.

I hold this ass-hole Bush and these Neocon goons reponsible or this most absurd policy! Iraq is in total and absolute chaos! We have lost our chance, we should get the hell out!

Bush is a lying sack of shiit, God-damn douche bag. He should be impeached for lying to the American ppl for so long now And here's the truth and the video of them 400 tons of missing explosives!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933/

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

The British Regiment called the Black Watch is deploying a Battle Group from their AO in Basra to relieve American positions near Baghdad.

Only for a very limited of time according to a BBC news report that I read a few days ago. I will find that link and post it here as soon as I find it.

Originally Posted by Julie

Only for a very limited of time according to a BBC news report that I read a few days ago. I will find that link and post it here as soon as I find it.

Your allies are "meaning, supportive of what you are doing, helping to rebuild Iraq while US is securing the area, humanitarian efforts, etc., etc."

Do not blanket state the US is in this alone. Not by a long shot. Even France and Germany are helping by relieving US committements to NATO and the Balkans.

The so called devide between the U.S and fondly named "axis of weasel" is not as great as many say it is (including myself in my rants). The real sticky point is the acctual choice to go into Iraq. Hell their were Canadians in American units for training purposes, but that dosn't mean we were for or against the war.

There is no conformation the stuff was there since the 90s. It's been gone for a long time. If the US hadn't gone into Iraq the terrorists and a tyrant that has supported terrorism, trained terrorists at that site, stored WMD at that site (nerve agents were found there), would have access to 400,000 tons of explosives and 1,000,000 tons of munitions. No matter how much "looters" got, it's alot less than they had access too before we got there. Kerry jumped on a bandwagon that was shutting down, a bandwagon based on lies...

Originally Posted by Confed999

There is no conformation the stuff was there since the 90s. It's been gone for a long time. If the US hadn't gone into Iraq the terrorists and a tyrant that has supported terrorism, trained terrorists at that site, stored WMD at that site (nerve agents were found there), would have access to 400,000 tons of explosives and 1,000,000 tons of munitions. No matter how much "looters" got, it's alot less than they had access too before we got there. Kerry jumped on a bandwagon that was shutting down, a bandwagon based on lies...

A bandwagon of lies, lies, lies....Bullcrap! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Oct30.html

If tons of ammunitions have been destroyed where in the heck is all of them coming from killing our marines ??? I know you are going to say, across the borders? Well, then we need to be doing something with the borders then if that is the case. If not, I would sure hope you would stop using that word "lies" because our marines are dropping like flies !

I believe someone on here once told me to stop making the war political and let them win it. It really makes me want to suck a lemon when I read and article like that, then have to come here and read BS political excuses such as that.

Originally Posted by Julie

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11543-2004Oct30.html

Can't read it...

Originally Posted by Julie

If tons of ammunitions have been destroyed where in the heck is all of them coming from killing our marines ??? I know you are going to say, across the borders?

There was over a million tons of stuff found. How much more was distributed and hidden before the war began. I mean, the UN gave Saddam over a decade to prepare for this. Some are crossing the border I would think, any ideas on how to protect that many miles of border?

Originally Posted by Julie

I would sure hope you would stop using that word "lies" because our marines are dropping like flies !

It's because of these "lies" that the war isn't being fought like a war. How many could have been killed if they had all of it?

Originally Posted by Julie

read BS political excuses such as that.

I feel about the same about your posts, but it doesn't make me mad, it makes me laugh.

Originally Posted by smilingassassin

It's so funny to watch the leftwing freaks to supposedly confirm their already predetermined opinions on the war. NBC had an in-bed with the troops, they didn't see any explosives, end of story. When are you guys gonna give it up?
Selective common sence....

Luldapull, take a pill or something, your going to burst a blood vein for some stupid conspiracy theory.

I wish you could post your opinions and omit the childish name-calling. It seems a military official is pubically disputing what you said above. Not that it is true, but I do have more faith in what he says than you.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...?nav=headlines

Originally Posted by Confed999

Can't read it....

Eight U.S. Marines Killed in Iraq

By Karl Vick and Fred Barbash
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, October 30, 2004; 6:20 PM

BAGHDAD, Oct. 30 -- Eight U.S. Marines were killed and nine others wounded Saturday in the Sunni Triangle area near Baghdad, the military announced.

It was one of the highest U.S. casualty figures in months in a single incident.


U.S. Army soldiers and a marine move an injured comrade shot by a sniper in Ramadi, Saturday. (Patrick Baz - AFP Photo)

The Marine casualties came when a car bomb went off next to a truck southwest of Baghdad, Maj. Clark Watson of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force told the Associated Press late Saturday.

The Marines are preparing for a decisive battle in the cities of Fallujah and Ramadi in Anbar Province, where the incident occurred and U.S. warplanes have been pounding Fallujah for weeks.

On Saturday, insurgents fired mortars at Marine positions outside Fallujah. U.S. troops responded with "the strongest artillery barrage in recent weeks," Marine spokesman 1st Lt. Lyle Gilbert told wire service reporters.

Later, a Marine Harrier jet bombed a guerrilla mortar position inside Fallujah, then strafed it with machine-gun fire, Gilbert said. He had no reports of insurgent casualties

Separately, news services reported that a car bomb exploded outside the offices of the Al-Arabiya television station in central Baghdad on Saturday, killing seven people and wounding 19.

The car bomb detonated near the Dubai-based network's building in the western Mansour neighborhood of the capital, Police Lt. Ziad Tareq told the Associated Press.

Network correspondent Najwa Qassem said the injured included technicians and drivers. Police said bystanders were also hurt in the blast.

A militant group claimed responsibility for the attack on Al-Arabiya's offices. In a statement posted Saturday on a Web site clearinghouse, the group identifying itself as the "1920 Brigades" said it brought down the building of the "Americanized spies speaking in Arabic tongue."

"We have threatened them to no avail that they are the mouthpiece of the American occupation in Iraq," the statement said. It warned of more attacks against this "treacherous network." It was impossible to verify the claim's authenticity.

Al-Arabiya's general manager, Abdulrahman al-Rashed, has been a vocal critic of Islamic militants and terror attacks.

Insurgents have controlled Fallujah since April, when Marines laid siege to the city, but an offensive was called off under pressure from the White House and L. Paul Bremer, the civilian administrator of the U.S.-led occupation authority then in charge in Iraq. Since then, military officials have described Fallujah as a hub of the Iraqi insurgency and the base for Abu Musab Zarqawi, a Jordanian militant who has proclaimed allegiance to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda organization.

While Zarqawi and other foreign militants have vowed to fight until U.S. and other occupying forces quit Iraq, local insurgents have been negotiating with Iraqi authorities to hand over control of the city peacefully. But Taha Ali, a press officer for interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, said Friday that the government was "losing patience" with the discussions.

Allawi favors the "peaceful solution," Ali said, but added that "this might be the last" chance to accept it.

On Friday in Fallujah, about 50 religious leaders met with members of the Shura Council of Mujaheddin, the self-appointed group that governs the city. The council closed the meeting to reporters, but a source familiar with the discussions said the group agreed to issue a fatwa, or religious order, calling for a holy war if U.S. forces pushed into Fallujah.

"War is very close," Abdullah Janabi, the head of the council, said while leading Friday prayers at the Hadhra Muhammadiya mosque, one of the most important in Fallujah.

"The government is responsible for the bloodshed in Fallujah," he said. "We have no choice -- it is either victory or martyrdom."

Originally Posted by Julie

Eight U.S. Marines Killed in Iraq

And that proves the explosives were still there? People get killed and hurt in war, no two ways about it.

Originally Posted by Confed999

And that proves the explosives were still there? People get killed and hurt in war, no two ways about it.

You are comfortable with the US casualty damage? Well, that's where we differ, because I am not by any means comfortable with it. Before Bush went to war, he stated in a meeting with the Defense Dept. that he didn't want to shoot a $10 million missile in a $10.00 tent, and hit a camel in the ass. It seems, they have alot more than tents and camels over there. I think Bush took the advice of someone who strongly underestimated this war.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...?nav=headlines

"According to the TV crew, the soldiers did not remove the explosives, and left the bunkers open and unguarded when they rejoined their unit. A source with firsthand knowledge of IAEA activities in Iraq said yesterday that the seal in the videotape "looks similar if not identical" to that used by the IAEA."

Originally Posted by Julie

You are comfortable with the US casualty damage?

I was sure it would be much, much, much higher...

that he didn't want to shoot a $10 million missile in a $10.00 tent, and hit a camel in the ass.

Good sense of humour! One day I shall use this. I just can't get over my laughing.

[QUOTE=Julie]You are comfortable with the US casualty damage? Well, that's where we differ, because I am not by any means comfortable with it. Before Bush went to war, he stated in a meeting with the Defense Dept. that he didn't want to shoot a $10 million missile in a $10.00 tent, and hit a camel in the ass.

Originally Posted by Julie

. I think Bush took the advice of someone who strongly underestimated this war.

To think you took offence to the word "hick", and now you use racist remarks against the Iraqis! He didn't want to shoot a $10 million missile in a $10.00 tent, and hit a camel in the ass? I honestly don't think you grasp the true realitys about war accept the killing part. Considering what the body count was expected to be I think your over reacting in reguards to casualty's, but seeing as you don't agree with the war its not surprizing.

Originally Posted by Julie

"According to the TV crew, the soldiers did not remove the explosives, and left the bunkers open and unguarded when they rejoined their unit. A source with firsthand knowledge of IAEA activities in Iraq said yesterday that the seal in the videotape "looks similar if not identical" to that used by the IAEA."

Mohamed al baraday is seeking a third term as head of the IAEA, the Bush administration is apposed to this for various reasons, does't surprize me that this crap is being focused on just days prior to the election. Pure polotics...

You can post sorces that say the stuff is missing due to U.S. neglegence while others can post links to the contrary, at either rate the story is not over and its a pure political trump card anyway. I won't be surprized if this is all a scam.
NBC inbed's claim the stuff was gone before the troops got there, other troops claimed the stuff was removed and distroyed. There are too many contradicting story's to claim either side is right, and I susspect it will remain that way for some time, unless of course Kerry gets in, then it will suddenly all unravel.

The only proof will come in the form of a paper trail, no paper claiming the distruction and you have the same situation as Saddams Iraq, no paper proof that he got rid of his known WMD's. Digging up that paper work takes time.