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- 27th May 2005 23:17 #1Ubi dubium ibi libertas Senior Contributor
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Religious Rights are being respected at Gitmo
Claims and Counter-Claims on Qur'an: The Glaring Omission of Media Reporting
by Sean Osborne, Military Affairs Expert, Senior Analyst
27 May 2005: The reporting by the main-stream media about what might or might not have occurred at Guantanamo has obscured the honest-to-God truth about the American way and that we practice what we preach, specifically as it relates to our constitutional guarantee of Freedom of Religion.
# Not one of these illegal enemy combatant detainee's who came from Afghanistan had a Qur'an in his possession when captured.
# A brand new Qur'an in the specific, native language of each individual was provided to each "enemy combatant".
Furthermore:
# Each illegal enemy combatant detained at Guantanamo is given three nutritious halal meals (culturally-appropriate and in accordance with Islamic dietary law) per day. The meals include all optional condiments.
# Each illegal enemy combatant detainee receives Muslim feast meals at special times in accordance with Muslim feasts and holy periods during the year.
# Each illegal enemy combatant detainee has unrestricted access to Muslim Imams and religious instruction.
# Each illegal enemy combatant detainee has a Quibla, a large green and white sign in his cell which points toward Mecca.
# Each illegal enemy combatant detainee hears Islamic loudspeaker calls to prayer five times daily.
# Each illegal enemy combatant detainee received a brand new Muslim prayer cap.
# Each illegal enemy combatant detainee received a brand new prayer rug.
# Each illegal enemy combatant detainee received brand new Islamic prayer beads. Each illegal enemy combatant detainee received Islamic holy oil.
# Each illegal enemy combatant had ALL of this done and paid for him at US taxpayer expense and this is far, far in excess of requirements delineated by Geneva Convention Cat. III protocols on the treatment of Prisoners of War. Why is none of this information coming forth from the mainstream media?
America is overwhelmingly a Christian nation, and there has been not one word of taxpayer protest concerning the above facts, which are in essence a glaring omission of the first order by the hate-America first mass media of this country and the world at large.
©Copyright 2005 Sean Osborne, Northeast Intelligence Network; Reprints permitted with proper citation and link
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/"Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
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- 28th May 2005 16:28 #2Staff Emeritus
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No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
- 28th May 2005 18:19 #3Staff Emeritus
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Include the story about a detainee being locked in a air conditioned room and thought he was being tortured with a blast of cold air?
Originally Posted by Confed999
Heard that these things get taken away if the illegal combatants don't behave. And if the Gitmo staff wanted to be mean they could just take an unruly detainee and let him run loose in Cuba, see how far he gets before Castro's flunkies catch 'em.
- 28th May 2005 19:12 #4Ubi dubium ibi libertas Senior Contributor
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Now that's intelligence! Originally Posted by Lunatock "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
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- 28th May 2005 19:38 #5Banished
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You can all convince yourselves that people are treated fairly at camp xray, but the truth is that people are being mentally tortured and illegally imprisoned
- 28th May 2005 19:42 #6Ubi dubium ibi libertas Senior Contributor
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Originally Posted by HOKUM 
You can convince yourself that people are being mentally tortured and illegally imprisoned, but the truth is people are being treated fairly.
<<Pats himself on the back for making a thoroughly convincing argument. [/sarcasm]"Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
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- 28th May 2005 20:17 #7Banished
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These people didnt crash planes into buildings, most of them cant really be labelled as criminals, unless opposing America can be called a crime!
They should at least be treated as POWs
- 28th May 2005 20:20 #8Senior Contributor
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Many of them were caught in the act of attacking American or allied forces in Afghanistan, and the others were caught in the act of aiding anti-American forces. Originally Posted by HOKUM These people didnt crash planes into buildings, most of them cant really be labelled as criminals, unless opposing America can be called a crime! They should at least be treated as POWs
Either one is a capital offense worthy of death.
It's interesting that you put a big smiley there, however.
- 28th May 2005 20:31 #9Banished
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The Smile was more sarcastic, but yes they were caught fighting american troops Originally Posted by Praxus
(who were invading their country) and are too dangerous to release. This does not justify subjecting them to hours of white noise and various other unpleasant daily routines, they dont deserve to be treated this way
- 28th May 2005 20:35 #10Ubi dubium ibi libertas Senior Contributor
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Neither did UBL. Originally Posted by HOKUM
Being a member of al Qaeda or any other international terror organization is a crime.most of them cant really be labelled as criminals,
Engaging in a criminal conspiracy to murder American citizens is not just "opposing America"unless opposing America can be called a crime!
Why? When you live outside of the laws of war you no longer deserve to be protected by them.They should at least be treated as POWs"Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
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- 28th May 2005 20:38 #11Ubi dubium ibi libertas Senior Contributor
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Many of them weren't defending their country. Originally Posted by HOKUM
Yes they do. We need information they have to save American lives.This does not justify subjecting them to hours of white noise and various other unpleasant daily routines, they dont deserve to be treated this way"Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
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- 28th May 2005 21:19 #12Staff Emeritus
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LOL :) Originally Posted by Leader No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
- 28th May 2005 21:22 #13Banished
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Leader, you are trying to justify daily torture and for many there is no end in sight. Granted some are terrorists or insurgents and they have information that can help destroy the terrorist networks. However I am sure they have all snapped and given all that they know, yet the hellish conditions continue
These people are far from innocent but still dont deserve to be treated this way
- 28th May 2005 21:36 #14Staff Emeritus
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What? "white noise and various other unpleasant daily routines"? Doesn't seem like punishment enough to me. Originally Posted by HOKUM No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
- 28th May 2005 21:38 #15Senior Contributor
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Three full meals a day, free medical treatment, and the freedom to pray to their invisible boogy man is hellish to you? Originally Posted by HOKUM
WOW
On top of this, you have no evidence that they have given up all they know. They are willing to commit suicide yet you think they won't hide anything?
Why?These people are far from innocent but still dont deserve to be treated this way
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