Democrats' worst nightmare: Terrorism on their watch

**Prof** · 5th January 2010 13:41

Originally Posted by Countezero

Napolitano is a joke, and has always been as much, but the desperate attempts to crucify Obama for what -- as someone already suggested -- is essentially a repeat of the Reid attempt during the Bush years are just that: Desperate. It's almost as if the Republicans are itching for us to get hit again so their electoral chances can rebound. Frankly, it's disgusting.

Napolitano had access to the same recording of herself reacting to criticism of her handling of this screwup before her "correction" that the rest of the world had. She undoubtedly reviewed it prior to her "correction" to help in the composition of that "correction." As everyone on Earth knows, she simply didn't say what she implied that she said, she knew it & there's no amount of context consideration that will alter that. Given that, what I do not understand is:
a) Why did denial of a truth obvious to & admitted by her boss, other senior members of her own administration & to anyone else with an IQ higher than a rose bush seem like a reasonable option for her, even given that Obama was sluggish in reacting, or maybe out of touch?
b) Why wasn't a simple "We screwed this one up for fair & we're lucky that that plane wasn't brought down but we've learned an important lesson from this mistake & it will not be made again." not only an obviously better & safer reaction politically but also one that more closely approximated the obvious truth?

Politicians do exactly this kind of dumbass stuff all the time, & I will never understand why. It seems to be a sort of job-related suicidal insanity.

Whatever, she should be fired. If I were a betting man (

) I would wager that she will be. Maybe not right now, but soon. An occasional foul-up is one thing. Ineptitude compounded by ineptitude leading to political disaster is not going to viewed charitably by the Prez. I realize that Obama is a bete noir for many of you guys, but everyone should also admit that he hasn't shown much hesitation when it comes to offending the southpaws in his "base."

Now, now. I voted for McCain even with that offensive Barbietumor the party grafted onto his ass.

Prof

**Dreadnought** · 5th January 2010 14:57

Democrats worst nightmare? Hows about REALITY!

**bonehead** · 5th January 2010 17:24

There is no such thing as "reality" in the political world. D.C. puts "Alice in wonderland" to shame.

**Countezero** · 5th January 2010 17:35

Originally Posted by bonehead

There is no such thing as "reality" in the political world. D.C. puts "Alice in wonderland" to shame.

Amen.

**JayTac** · 5th January 2010 19:47

President Obama takes the heat President Bush did not - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

**gunnut** · 5th January 2010 20:01

Originally Posted by JayTac

President Obama takes the heat President Bush did not - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

That's because Bush knew we were at war with terrorists. Terrorism was real. And we were still learning how to deal with terror just a few weeks after 9-11.

Obama's getting flak because terrorism is over in the age of Obama. There is no more terror. We are not at war with terror. He has reached out to our enemies and offered dialog. They are supposed to sit down and tell us how they feel. We will listen and change our arrogant ways so they don't hate us any more.

For some odd reason, they seem to brush off Obama's charm. They still hate us even though Bush is out of office. They still want to bomb us after we ended our war on terror. We even offered to call their acts "man made disasters" as to not offend terrorists.

Somehow these didn't work and Obama is catching some heat from the mainstream media...for once.

**Roosveltrepub** · 5th January 2010 20:53

Originally Posted by gunnut

That's because Bush knew we were at war with terrorists. Terrorism was real. And we were still learning how to deal with terror just a few weeks after 9-11.

Obama's getting flak because terrorism is over in the age of Obama. There is no more terror. We are not at war with terror. He has reached out to our enemies and offered dialog. They are supposed to sit down and tell us how they feel. We will listen and change our arrogant ways so they don't hate us any more.

For some odd reason, they seem to brush off Obama's charm. They still hate us even though Bush is out of office. They still want to bomb us after we ended our war on terror. We even offered to call their acts "man made disasters" as to not offend terrorists.

Somehow these didn't work and Obama is catching some heat from the mainstream media...for once.

What a bunch of rubbish. Like this man you recognize the real enemy

Quist: Defeating liberals a bigger battle than defeating terrorism Minnesota Independent: News. Politics. Media.

Our country is being destroyed. Every generation has had to fight the fight for freedom… Terrorism? Yes. That’s not the big battle,” he said. “The big battle is in D.C. with the radicals. They aren’t liberals. They are radicals. Obama, Pelosi, Walz: They’re not liberals, they’re radicals. They are destroying our country

**astralis** · 5th January 2010 20:55

gunnut,

Obama's getting flak because terrorism is over in the age of Obama. There is no more terror. We are not at war with terror. He has reached out to our enemies and offered dialog. They are supposed to sit down and tell us how they feel. We will listen and change our arrogant ways so they don't hate us any more.

how does that fit with the fact that for the most part, obama has kept most of bush's policies and even quite a few of his personnel? or the fact that his surge in afghanistan is significantly greater than bush's in iraq, or that we're actually putting more resources into anti-terrorism operations than we did under bush?

there's plenty to criticize obama about- no need to fight against a caricature.

**gunnut** · 5th January 2010 21:09

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

What a bunch of rubbish. Like this man you recognize the real enemy

Quist: Defeating liberals a bigger battle than defeating terrorism Minnesota Independent: News. Politics. Media.

Let's say you're right. Let's say we have enemies from beyond the borders. Can you tell me who they are?

**gunnut** · 5th January 2010 21:11

Originally Posted by astralis

gunnut,

how does that fit with the fact that for the most part, obama has kept most of bush's policies and even quite a few of his personnel? or the fact that his surge in afghanistan is significantly greater than bush's in iraq, or that we're actually putting more resources into anti-terrorism operations than we did under bush?

there's plenty to criticize obama about- no need to fight against a caricature.

Either Obama lied or he thinks we are stupid.

**Roosveltrepub** · 5th January 2010 21:42

Originally Posted by gunnut

Let's say you're right. Let's say we have enemies from beyond the borders. Can you tell me who they are?

Radical islamist groups intent on exporting terror specifically operating out of Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, the Swath valley and portions of the Pakistani secret service as well as the corrupt nature of the Karzai governments making it unable to govern effectively. Those are the major threats to our security atm. We have more enemies of course but real nation states present targets so are better behaved. some of our allies might be considered threats in the Gulf specifically the corrupt Yemani government which cares
more abut fighting shia. Your question makes it seem like you are unsure of our external enemies but, have a clear idea of the internal ones. Who are the internal enemies of the state?

**Roosveltrepub** · 5th January 2010 21:43

Originally Posted by gunnut

Either Obama lied or he thinks we are stupid.

no you got what he said from bad sources and continue to so have no idea of what he was proposing all along.

**astralis** · 5th January 2010 21:50

gunnut,

Either Obama lied or he thinks we are stupid.

ironically this is what liberals are saying about obama, because far from announcing an immediate withdrawal from afghanistan, obama has greenlighted much more aggressive use of predator strikes as well as the afghan surge. also note his use of the nobel peace prize speech platform to promote the necessity of the US using armed force.

these are all things foreign policy hawks should applaud.

**gunnut** · 5th January 2010 22:09

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

Radical islamist groups intent on exporting terror specifically operating out of Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, the Swath valley and portions of the Pakistani secret service as well as the corrupt nature of the Karzai governments making it unable to govern effectively. Those are the major threats to our security atm. We have more enemies of course but real nation states present targets so are better behaved. some of our allies might be considered threats in the Gulf specifically the corrupt Yemani government which cares
more abut fighting shia.

Very good. Now, these "non-state" actors have tried to create various "man-caused disasters" on our soil. How has the Obama government dealt with such actions?

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

Your question makes it seem like you are unsure of our external enemies but, have a clear idea of the internal ones. Who are the internal enemies of the state?

I am well aware who our external enemies are. I was just unsure if you knew.

I know who the internal enemies of this country is also. Mostly in the legislature, but plenty in the EPA and other alphabet agencies and departments.

**Roosveltrepub** · 5th January 2010 22:27

Originally Posted by gunnut

Very good. Now, these "non-state" actors have tried to create various "man-caused disasters" on our soil. How has the Obama government dealt with such actions?

I am well aware who our external enemies are. I was just unsure if you knew.

I know who the internal enemies of this country is also. Mostly in the legislature, but plenty in the EPA and other alphabet agencies and departments.

Increase the pressure on them as already has been noted.

So then you are an Enemy of the Government of the USA? You can't be an enemy of part of a State.

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