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    Another Lying Democrat

    An emotional moment and a misunderstanding
    Story of a mother’s desperate calls from nursing home skewed
    MSNBC and NBC News
    Updated: 10:55 a.m. ET Sept. 19, 2005

    WASHINGTON - The Jefferson Parish president's emotional retelling of a mother's desperate calls from a New Orleans nursing home included details that conflict with the timeline of the tragedy.

    The story, of a colleague's mother begging her son for rescue as flood waters rose after Hurricane Katrina, came to prominence on Sunday, Sept. 4, when Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish in New Orleans, was interviewed by Tim Russert on NBC's Meet the Press. (MSNBC is a Microsoft-NBC joint venture.)

    New details and interviews with the son whose mother died in the flood show that the tragedy unfolded from Saturday through Monday, Aug. 29 — not Monday through Friday, Sept. 2 as recounted by Broussard. The owners of the nursing home were indicted Tuesday for the deaths of more than 30 residents, which officials say occurred on Aug. 29.

    In the course of the interview, in which Broussard was expressing frustration with the slow-footed response by the federal government to the hurricane, he related the personal story of a man whose mother had died in the flooding caused by Katrina. Broussard, who did not identify the man by name at the time, broke down in tears as he related the story. As the Meet the Press transcript shows, Russert paused the interview to allow Broussard to compose himself.

    BROUSSARD: ... The guy who runs this building I'm in, emergency management, he's responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and every day she called him and said, "Are you coming, son? Is somebody coming?" And he said, "Yeah, Mama, somebody's coming to get you. Somebody's coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebody's coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebody's coming to get you on Thursday. Somebody's coming to get you on Friday." And she drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night.

    Leader: Shove you're ******** up you ass, ****er.

    RUSSERT: Mr. President...

    BROUSSARD: Nobody's coming to get us. Nobody's coming to get us. The secretary has promised. Everybody's promised. They've had press conferences. I'm sick of the press conferences. For God sakes, shut up and send us somebody.

    RUSSERT: Just take a pause, Mr. President. While you gather yourself in your very emotional times, I understand, let me go to Governor Haley Barbour of Mississippi.

    Since the broadcast of the interview, which elevated Broussard to national prominence, a number of bloggers have questioned the validity of Broussard’s story.

    Subsequent reporting identified the man whom Broussard was referring to in the Meet the Press interview as Thomas Rodrigue, the Jefferson Parish emergency services director. Contacted on Friday by MSNBC.com, Rodrigue acknowledged that his 92-year-old mother and more than 30 other people died in the St. Rita nursing home. They had not been evacuated and the flood waters overtook the residence.

    The chronology of the phone calls described by Broussard came under particular scrutiny by bloggers.

    Rodrigue said he didn’t see or hear Broussard’s comments on Meet the Press. When told of the sequence of phone calls that Broussard described on Meet the Press, Rodrigue said “No, no, that’s not true.”

    “I can’t tell you what he said that day, why he was confused, I’m assuming he was under a tremendous amount of pressure,” Rodrigue told MSNBC.

    “I contacted the nursing home two days before the storm [on Aug. 27th] and again on the 28th of August,” Rodrigue said. “At the same time I talked to the nursing home I also talked to the emergency manager for St. Bernard Parish,” Rodrigue said, “to encourage that nursing home to evacuate like they were supposed to and they didn’t until it was too late.”

    Broussard must have been confused “because I was calling, not my mother calling me, I was calling her,” Rodrigue said. Further, Rodrigue says he never made any calls after Monday, the day he figures his mother died, based on conversations he’s had with another person who had a family member perish inside St. Rita’s. Officials believe that the residents of St. Rita’s died on Monday, Aug. 29, not on Friday, Sept. 2, as Broussard had suggested.

    Broussard could not be reached for comment Friday, but Jackie Bauer, a spokeswoman for Broussard who was present during the Meet the Press interview, said "it was a misunderstanding."

    The ****ing hell it was. He saw a chance to stir up hatred for Bush and the Republicans and he took it like the pinko whore he is.

    Late on Friday, Bauer told MSNBC.com: "I was there when he (Broussard) was doing that, when he was saying that, I think he was meaning that he was calling, he was calling and trying to talk to Tommy and telling him ‘don’t worry,' trying to console Tommy, 'don’t worry, we’ll get her out, don’t worry we’ll get her out.'"

    When asked how Broussard could have gotten the details of his mother’s story so wrong, Rodrigue said, Broussard “was emotional, absolutely and he was from the time that he found out that, you know, that my mother had died and I was here doing what I’m required to do for the citizens for Jefferson Parish.”

    Rodrigue said he hasn’t spoken with Broussard since the Meet the Press broadcast. “He’s been busy, I’ve been busy,” Rodrigue said. “I haven’t really had a chance to sit down and talk to him.”

    The husband and wife owners of St. Rita’s nursing home in the New Orleans suburb of Chalmette have been charged with homicide in the case.

    “The pathetic thing in this case was that they were asked if they wanted to move them and they did not,” Louisiana Attorney General Charles Foti said Tuesday. “They were warned repeatedly that this storm was coming. In effect, their inaction resulted in the deaths of these people.”

    “They had a duty and a standard of care to people who could not care for themselves,” Foti said of the owners. “If you or I decided we are going to stay, we do it of our own free will. ... The people at the nursing home don’t have that choice.”

    “Thirty-four people drowned in a nursing home when it should have been evacuated. I cannot say it any plainer than that,” Foti said, his voice rising with anger.

    URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9368952/
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    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

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    "another lying democrat"

    Pffft, as if there is any other kind...

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    Kinda like they're a dime a dozen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    "another lying democrat"

    Pffft, as if there is any other kind...
    I was suspicious from the beginning when I saw his blubbering ass on television.
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    NEVER FORGET

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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    "another lying democrat"

    Pffft, as if there is any other kind...
    Aaron Broussard donates to the Republicans.

    Here is his last political donation, $250 to Republican Congressman David Vitter:

    LINK

    If this link doesn't work, try the main Polititical Money Line link, go to Donor Name Lookup, and type in "Broussard, Aaron" for the 2000 election cycle. He gave no money in 2002 or 2004.
    Last edited by Broken; 20 Sep 05, at 17:04.

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    NO! -- could it be? A Republican turning on a Republican? Isn't that unpatriotic?

    Hey, did you hear about this:

    Phone call from Rove spurred dismissal

    AUSTIN, Texas — White House Deputy chief of staff Karl Rove personally called the Texas secretary of state about a newspaper story quoting a staff lawyer about whether Rove was eligible to vote in the state.

    The lawyer was subsequently fired.

    Secretary of State Roger Williams said that he decided to dismiss the lawyer after talking with Rove but that the White House adviser didn't request that he do so.

    "Absolutely not," said Williams, a longtime supporter of President Bush and a major GOP fund raiser.

    "Karl called me. He had read the article and wanted to know if it was our stance" that his voter-registration status in Texas might be in jeopardy, he said. "I told him it wasn't and that the person who gave that opinion was not authorized to do so."

    The call to Williams came at the height of the Hurricane Katrina catastrophe, the weekend after the storm struck.

    Elizabeth Reyes, 30, was terminated Sept. 6 after being quoted in The Washington Post three days earlier saying it was potential vote fraud to register in a place where you don't actually live.

    Reyes said that she was answering a hypothetical question, that she didn't know she was talking with a reporter and that Rove's name never came up. The Post acknowledged that Rove's name was not mentioned, but said the reporter did identify herself as working for the newspaper.

    Reyes said she was told she was being terminated for violating an agency policy against talking to the media.

    Scott Haywood, a spokesman for the secretary of state, said employees may take "routine press calls" but must refer media inquires to the communications director if they involve "controversial matters."

    Williams, asked about the reasons for Reyes' dismissal, said: "That's a personnel matter. I don't really want to discuss it."

    In Texas, state employees can be terminated at will. Reyes told The Post she had asked for her job back.

    Rove, the longtime Bush adviser who orchestrated his campaigns for governor and president, has sold his home in Austin and claims as his voting residence two cottages associated with a bed-and-breakfast in Kerr County. The arrangement is permitted under state law, Williams said.

    White House spokeswoman Erin Healey said Friday that Rove called the Texas secretary of state seeking clarification on the state's voting requirements.

    Texas law provides that residents may continue to claim property in the state as a voting residence if their intent is to return. Rove owns a house in Washington, D.C., and recently built a home in Florida.

    Williams, a car dealer, raised at least $100,000 for Bush's 2000 presidential campaign and in 2004 was among the elite tier of Bush Rangers, who each raised at least $200,000 for the president's re-election.


    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ovefire19.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    NO! -- could it be? A Republican turning on a Republican? Isn't that unpatriotic?
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    Could it be - NO! You got your sentence structure backwards.

    http://www.bestofneworleans.com/disp...ews_feat2.html

    Furthermore, with Broussard the strong favorite to replace Republican Tim Coulon as parish president, the Democratic Party is posed to take control of the top elected position in Jefferson Parish.
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken
    Aaron Broussard donates to the Republicans.

    Here is his last political donation, $250 to Republican Congressman David Vitter:

    LINK

    If this link doesn't work, try the main Polititical Money Line link, go to Donor Name Lookup, and type in "Broussard, Aaron" for the 2000 election cycle. He gave no money in 2002 or 2004.
    First, I couldn't get your little experiment to work. Second the man's a Dem.
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

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    "NO! -- could it be? A Republican turning on a Republican? Isn't that unpatriotic?"

    You're turning into a good liberal aren't you? You're even thread crapping now.
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    NEVER FORGET

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    You're turning into a good liberal aren't you? You're even thread crapping now.
    I can be anything you, or I, want me to be. According to Sniper, we are all human, and our actions are abstract -- which is the natural order of things.

    So, right now, I choose to be as stupid as you are blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    I can be anything you, or I, want me to be. According to Sniper, we are all human, and our actions are abstract -- which is the natural order of things.

    So, right now, I choose to be as stupid as you are blind.
    Start you're own thread and you can *****, whine, or talk about any subject you want. I really don't care. However, this thread has a topic. You clearly don't want to talk about it. So I kindly ask you to leave.
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    NEVER FORGET

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    However, this thread has a topic. You clearly don't want to talk about it. So I kindly ask you to leave.
    And what part of this topic has so far become interesting enough to discuss? All democrats being liars, which insinuates that all Republicans tell the truth? That's a little far-fetched don't ya think? I mean, wasn't Nixon (Rep.) impeached for being a little less than honest to us Americans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    And what part of this topic has so far become interesting enough to discuss?
    Best way to tell me that is not to respond. Right now, all I can figure is that the topic is so important that you can't help but distracting from it because it's devastating to your cause.

    All democrats being liars,
    I said that? No I didn't. Stop basing you're arguments on things you know aren't ture.

    which insinuates that all Republicans tell the truth?
    You have an active imagination.

    That's a little far-fetched don't ya think?
    Is it really? I'm sorry I'm too blind. Stop wasting your time.

    I mean, wasn't Nixon (Rep.) impeached for being a little less than honest to us Americans?
    YOU'VE SUCCESSFULLY REFUTED AN ARGUMENT THAT I NEVER MADE!! CONGRATULATIONS!
    "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."
    "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    NEVER FORGET

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    Excuse me....I thought the thread said "Another lying Democrat."

    The article only depicts to me that he was an upset, exhausted man, surrounded by horrible circumstances, as well as poor communication. By the time the story was relayed to him, it was probably completely different as to how the woman's death occurred. It would be very presumptious to call him a "lying Democrat." Either that, or he was a very good actor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie
    NO! -- could it be? A Republican turning on a Republican? Isn't that unpatriotic?

    Hey, did you hear about this:

    Phone call from Rove spurred dismissal

    AUSTIN, Texas — White House Deputy chief of staff Karl Rove personally called the Texas secretary of state about a newspaper story quoting a staff lawyer about whether Rove was eligible to vote in the state.

    The lawyer was subsequently fired.
    That's our Karl!

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