Thread: Kuwaiti Official: Katrina was Sent by Allah to Punish America

Originally Posted by Neo

God will not interfere directly with humanbeing till Armageddon, so its stupid to say that Hurricanes, Tsunami's and earthquakes are gods way to punish.

They are in a way acts of God as he respects rules of nature he created. A hurricane or a perfect storm is nothing but a phenomenon were several elements are combined resulting in energy that shifts from one to another part.


Nowere in the Holy Quran is quoted that HE'll manupulate such forces to punish humans...it's unislamic to even think so!

Well said and very true.

one ministers comments does not reflect how everyone feels

And yet there are dolts who champion such rot.

So, the Ministers in Kuwait are footloose cannons?

They do not represent their govt's views!

What is the principle of governance they follow?

I thought the Ministries are based on "Collective Responsibility".

That means what Shaukat Aziz, as the PM says, does not necessarily mean that is what Musharraf will say!

And yet such a brouhaha is created if Rumsfeld says anything just for a lark!

What profound logic!

Hokey Pokey, Hokey Pokey till the end of time.......

"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." - Benjamin Franklin.

I also love the slyness prevading in Kuwait of pledging oil (not for free) and at the same time publishing such an idiotic article by a Minister. It is becoming endemic in that part of ARabia.

Can the Minister write that the Sheik is a dumb dolt? If he can then I will believe that the man exhibited independent thought!

Religiously, God's power is said to be unquantifiable (thats a word right?).

That implies you cannot measure it.
10 'meters' - you compare the length of the object with a 'meter'.
Therefore theoritically unquantifiable is also relative simply because it is something that is comparably bigger than what we can perceive.

You got no clue yet.
And yet we talk of Allahs punishments !

Put it into your head - Allah or God has no say in such events.It simply is out of our ordinary perception.

Samudra,

It is human arrogance to assume everything God does is for the advantage or disadvantage of Man.

True.
So very true , Sir.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168443,00.html

Kuwait offers $500 million.

so what do you think god is?
What is gods job?
what is gods role in what we do/ what occurs in the world?

Is there things god cannot control, or does not control?
What better thing does god have to do than run his creations?

BJP murdered 2000 muslims, they were in the government back then does that mean, its Indian policy to do so?

That implies you cannot measure it.
10 'meters' - you compare the length of the object with a 'meter'.
Therefore theoritically unquantifiable is also relative simply because it is something that is comparably bigger than what we can perceive.

You got no clue yet.
And yet we talk of Allahs punishments !

Put it into your head - Allah or God has no say in such events.It simply is out of our ordinary perception.

You keep on saying punishments, like you're more convinced that Katrina was a punishment than the Kuwaiti nut. I've said it over and over, its not upto humans to decide God's motives.

It is human arrogance to assume everything God does is for the advantage or disadvantage of Man.

You're probably right and religiously, its also wrong. In Pakistan, you'd see religious people say several times (Allah behtar jaanta hai), God knows best. And any believing person that recognizes his or her existence to be humble in front of God, would also just leave it at just that, that God would know best.

Sam, we're of course discussing this as believing people. I don't force you to get anything into your head, why should you ask me to get something in or out of my head?

It's a belief, you have yours I have mine.

Plat

All know that the drop merges into the ocean but few know that the ocean merges into the drop - Kabir.

It's a belief, you have yours I have mine.

I have the least problem if people like this Kuwaiti Official and his supporters keep their traps SHUT !

Projecting god as a cruel being going around the world and punishing the kaffirs for being kaffirs and justifying that absurdity in the name of ignorance and "god knows best" like statements deserve rebuttals.

Originally Posted by Samudra

I have the least problem if people like this Kuwaiti Official and his supporters keep their traps SHUT !

Projecting god as a cruel being going around the world and punishing the kaffirs for being kaffirs and justifying that absurdity in the name of ignorance and "god knows best" like statements deserve rebuttals.

Worse than rebuttals, it shows they need to be fought...

Projecting god as a cruel being going around the world and punishing the kaffirs for being kaffirs and justifying that absurdity in the name of ignorance and "god knows best" like statements deserve rebuttals.

No one's projecting God to be cruel or he's out to get the Kaffirs. Natural disasters strike everywhere alike. Some die in accidents, some die in natural disasters, some die on the battlefield.

Originally Posted by Confed999

Worse than rebuttals, it shows they need to be fought...

But how does one's belief in God harm you?

Tell me doesn't the Hindu religion, believe OM to be infinite power?