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    Quote Originally Posted by Confed999
    10+% unemployment...

    That's why you evacuate, or you prepare for 3-7 days without help. They don't tell us this stuff for fun. Failing to do either, means you're just asking for what you get. And it actually took days for the food and water to reach the farthest point of the destruction. The path of this hurricanes destruction is 100 miles wide and 200 miles long. If NO was the only place hit, the food and water would have been there before the sun set, but there were millions to attend to along the way...
    What about all the people who evacuated to the stadiums jsut liek they were told by the govt? They were left without food and water for 5 days as well even though they were following directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Praxus
    Somaton, what do you believe in and why?
    I don't really know how to answer this one, what do you want to know?
    My religious beliefs, my political color, where my thoughts comes from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somaton
    My thoughts, before the disaster.
    Well everyone, with holdings in NO, after the disaster is poorer!!! You were talking about the whole US before.
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    The system that brings money to the government and to companies.
    The system that brings money to companies through trade is dependant upon the product, but as a whole everyone counts in that "system". Poor, middle class, or rich, we all go to the corner Blockbuster to rent movies. The system that brings money to companies through investment is heavily dependant upon the rich and upper middle classes. The system that brings money to the government is taxation, and that is heavily, and wrongly, skewed towards the upper incomes.
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    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by VayuSena
    What about all the people who evacuated to the stadiums jsut liek they were told by the govt? They were left without food and water for 5 days as well even though they were following directions.
    They went to the stadium but didn't follow the rest of the instructions, you know the evacuate and prepare instructions? They should have demanded evacuation, the city had the means.
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    the answers of a comparison from then to some other point in history. I'm talking about the figures in any given moment. Like right now, poor people 15% low middle class 15%, middle-class 45%, upper middle class 20% rich 10% (as an example).
    The figures at any given moment are irrelevant. Poverty is relative, what is so hard to understand about that? It is like distance, the concept of distance requires two points of reference. If you look at just a singular point, the entire concept of distance is irrelevant.

    So in what terms do you describe some ones economic status? If rich or poor won't do.
    You don't, at least, not in any serious conversation.

    The system that brings money to the government and to companies.
    Those are two separate things. Companies bring in money through being productive, the Government brings in money by looting.

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    I don't really know how to answer this one, what do you want to know?
    My religious beliefs, my political color, where my thoughts comes from?
    Metaphysics (Ontology), Epistemology, Ethics, and Politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confed999
    The vast majority of our poor are nowhere near that bad off...
    OK if you say so, but even when I look at Fox News I would like to think otherwise

    Quote Originally Posted by Confed999
    You're confusing stupid and poor, for many of them, both for some. Most people did leave, a million of them, about 1/6th stayed. NO couldn't survive if 1/6th of it's population was as poor as you seem to believe they were.
    If you say so, haven’t been there so I can't tell. It still puzzles me that the last 1/6 of all NO citizens didn’t got the hell out of there though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Confed999
    Then I'm baffled as to how you could be staggered that there are poor people in the US.
    Not that there ARE poor people but that they were so many. But you tell me otherwise so now I really don't know what to think.

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    You shouldn't, because they prove you are flat out wrong.
    No it doesn't, and you know it.

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    That's what most people say after their first visit here. Kinda like most Americans comming back from Europe are happy to be home...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confed999
    They went to the stadium but didn't follow the rest of the instructions, you know the evacuate and prepare instructions? They should have demanded evacuation, the city had the means.
    I don't think the city had the means, especially for 30,000 + (I believe) people there. The mayor was a fool who had absolutely NO PLAN B for the people who might be left back.

    Consider this,

    The mayor of New Orleans had 3 days warning (plenty of time to atleast frame a plan for those who might be left behind - the poor, the old, the sick, and the stupid)

    Rudy Gulianni had no warning, nothing. Yet he managed to rally all his people together.

    Shows you how incompetent that Nagin guy is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somaton
    OK if you say so, but even when I look at Fox News I would like to think otherwise
    Are you looking at hurricane victims, or poor people somewhere?
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    It still puzzles me that the last 1/6 of all NO citizens didn’t got the hell out of there though.
    Why? Personally I figured it would have been alot more. I wouldn't have left either. Even Fats Domino stayed, had to be rescued, but stayed none the less...
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    No it doesn't, and you know it.
    Yes it does. There is no magical set ammount of wealth.
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    Are you trying to provoke me?
    It provokes you that people who visit here generally go home thinking they've been lied too? Or that people living here visiting other places come back wondering why the locals think they are so well off?
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    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by giggs88
    I don't think the city had the means
    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...lpc21109012015
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Hhahaa, that reminds me of when he (nagin) said he didn't want to use school buses, instead he wanted every operational greyhound in america there. retard. why the hell didnt bush fire him on the spot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Praxus
    The figures at any given moment are irrelevant. Poverty is relative, what is so hard to understand about that? It is like distance, the concept of distance requires two points of reference. If you look at just a singular point, the entire concept of distance is irrelevant.
    I understand you, but if you apply that to reality you would have to discard everything based on statistics.
    As it is based on the two points you refer to, it's like the time. You want to know what time it is right now, but you are fully aware of that it will tell something else at another time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxus
    You don't, at least, not in any serious conversation.
    Well, I don't think I want to go there just yet, I'm gonna use those terms as long as nothing better comes up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxus
    Those are two separate things. Companies bring in money through being productive, the Government brings in money by looting.
    Productivity yes, but they won't thrive if there are no people that can afford the products.
    Regarding the govenment I fully agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giggs88
    that reminds me of when he (nagin) said he didn't want to use school buses
    According to their approved disaster preparedness plan all available government vehicles should have been pressed into service to aid the evacuation. One young man even stole a school buss abandoned on the roadside for days, to drive his family, friends, and everyone he could find on the way out, to a Texas shelter.
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confed999
    Are you looking at hurricane victims, or poor people somewhere?
    Both I am told.

    Quote Originally Posted by Confed999
    Why? Personally I figured it would have been alot more. I wouldn't have left either. Even Fats Domino stayed, had to be rescued, but stayed none the less...
    If I had the oppurtunity I would have left, first thing. And if all of those people in the Astrodome had a car I bet they would have too.

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    Yes it does. There is no magical set ammount of wealth.
    No magic, that's right!

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    It provokes you that people who visit here generally go home thinking they've been lied too? Or that people living here visiting other places come back wondering why the locals think they are so well off?
    I don't know what people who have visited the US generally thinks and I don't think you do either, as well as you don't know what home comming americans think.
    I do think that you are polite enough not to provoke others in here, therefor I don't feel that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praxus
    Metaphysics (Ontology), Epistemology, Ethics, and Politics.
    To be honest I don't know if my skills in the english language allows me to do that. I can give it a shot but it will take some time

    Do you ask the same thing to all newbies in here?
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