Thread: Democratic Voter Fraud, Intimidation Confirmed

"the anti-Democrat statements have been cherry picked from the executive summary."

I don't believe that is an accurate characterization

Here is the full Executive Summery (the part quoted by powerline is in bold):

Executive Summary

The 2004 presidential election was unlike any other. A closely divided but highly passionate American electorate achieved the highest percentage of voter turnout since 1968, as 122 million voters went to the polls on Election Day. President George W. Bush was reelected with the most votes for any presidential candidate in history, while his challenger Senator John Kerry received the second most votes ever. However, despite huge voter turnout on November 2, recent studies have shown that public confidence in the American election system is low. As has been pointed out by election law expert Professor Richard L. Hasen, a post-election NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that more than a quarter of Americans worried that the vote count for president in 2004 was unfair. Moreover, a Rasmussen Reports poll found that 59 percent of Americans believed that there was "a lot" or "some" fraud in American elections. (1)

The American Center For Voting Rights Legislative Fund (“ACVR Legislative Fund”) was founded on the belief that public confidence in our electoral system is the cornerstone of our democracy. ACVR Legislative Fund was established primarily to further the common good and general welfare of the citizens of the United States of America by educating the public about vote fraud, intimidation and discrimination which impacts the Constitutional right of all citizens to participate in the electoral process. This important task requires an honest accounting of activity during the 2004 election, so that we may move forward with a common set of facts to address the issues that undermine public confidence in American elections. ACVR Legislative Fund presents the following report as the most comprehensive and authoritative look at the facts surrounding allegations of vote fraud, intimidation and suppression leveled by both parties during the 2004 election. This investigation found the following:

While Democrats routinely accuse Republicans of voter intimidation and suppression, neither party has a clean record on the issue. Instead, the evidence shows that Democrats waged aggressive intimidation and suppression campaigns against Republican voters and volunteers in 2004. Republicans have not been exempt from similar criticism in this area, as alleged voter intimidation and suppression activity by GOP operatives led the Republican National Committee to sign a consent decree repudiating such tactics in 1982. However, a careful review of the facts shows that in 2004, paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression efforts than their Republican counterparts. Examples include:

* Paid Democrat operatives charged with slashing tires of 25 Republican get-out-the-vote vans in Milwaukee on the morning of Election Day.

* Misleading telephone calls made by Democrat operatives targeting Republican voters in Ohio with the wrong date for the election and faulty polling place information.

* Intimidating and deceiving mailings and telephone calls paid for by the DNC threatening Republican volunteers in Florida with legal action.

* Union-coordinated intimidation and violence campaign targeting Republican campaign offices and volunteers resulting in a broken arm for a GOP volunteer in Florida.

Vote fraud and voter registration fraud were significant problems in at least a dozen states around the county. Vote fraud is a reality in America that occurred not only in large battleground states like Wisconsin but in places like Alabama and Kentucky. The record indicates that in 2004, voter registration fraud was mainly the work of so-called “nonpartisan” groups such as Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and NAACP National Voter Fund. Examples include:

* Joint task force in Wisconsin found “clear evidence of fraud in the Nov. 2 election in Milwaukee,” including more than 200 felon voters, more than 100 double voters and thousands more ballots cast than voters recorded as having voted in the city.

* NAACP National Voter Fund worker in Ohio paid crack cocaine in exchange for a large number of fraudulent voter registration cards in names of Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins and other fictional characters.

* Former ACORN worker said there was “a lot of fraud committed” by group in Florida, as ACORN workers submitted thousands of fraudulent registrations in a dozen states across the country, resulting in a statewide investigation of the group in Florida and multiple indictments and convictions of ACORN/Project Vote workers for voter registration fraud in several states.

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Originally Posted by Leader

"the anti-Democrat statements have been cherry picked from the executive summary."

I don't believe that is an accurate characterization

Here is the full Executive Summery (the part quoted by powerline is in bold):



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Wow, I guess my assumption that there would be some minor substantiated claims against the Republicans that would make the executive summary is blown out of the water. If I had read the primary source before I posted the original message, I guess I would have written "the anti-Democrat statements have been picked from the executive summary, leaving only a few introductory sentences remaining." The MSM hysteria over voter fraud/intimidation in 2004 demonstrates an even greater bias beyond my wildest imagination.

"Democratic Voter Fraud"

Is there any other kind?

Originally Posted by M21Sniper

"Democratic Voter Fraud"

Is there any other kind?

Vote early and vote often!

Originally Posted by shek

Vote early and vote often!

The dems have it down cold. In Chicago, the Daley's have had a long history of voter fraud. Amazing how in Chicago, when lifelong Reps die, they then start voting Dem.
Then they try to throw us off scent by claiming the right is cheating.

Politics is a ruthless endevor. Both parties have "thugs" that are willing to lie, cheet steal, etc, to ensure their party is victorious. We could finger point and blame (which accomplishes nothing), or we could send all of those responcible to the greybar motel under a manditory prison jail times. The actions if those responcible are subverting the will of the people and they are putting the integrety of the voting process at risk. This has gone on far too long and is totally unacceptable.

Originally Posted by bonehead

Politics is a ruthless endevor. Both parties have "thugs" that are willing to lie, cheet steal, etc, to ensure their party is victorious. We could finger point and blame (which accomplishes nothing), or we could send all of those responcible to the greybar motel under a manditory prison jail times. The actions if those responcible are subverting the will of the people and they are putting the integrety of the voting process at risk. This has gone on far too long and is totally unacceptable.

It's not as even-handed as you're making it out. Almost all of the charges against Republicans have simply not held up to scrutiny. The Democrats, on the other hand...

Yeah, the GOP has some bare-knuckled, sharp-elbowed hard-ball types. But usually, our party stays inside the lines. Democrats, though, are willing to tolerate almost anything for a win (I guess because they don't get to do it as much these days).

Originally Posted by Bluesman

It's not as even-handed as you're making it out. Almost all of the charges against Republicans have simply not held up to scrutiny. The Democrats, on the other hand...

Yeah, the GOP has some bare-knuckled, sharp-elbowed hard-ball types. But usually, our party stays inside the lines. Democrats, though, are willing to tolerate almost anything for a win (I guess because they don't get to do it as much these days).

Heh. This is what John Cole has to say about the supposedly non-partisan nature of the "American Committee for Voters Rights":

Via Memeorandum, I see that the “American Center for Voting Rights” has just issued a report stating the following:


The ACVR Legislative Fund report, “Vote Fraud, Intimidation & Suppression In The 2004 Presidential Election,” finds that while Democrats routinely accuse Republicans of voter intimidation and suppression, neither party has a clean record on the issue. The report finds that paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression activities than were their Republican counterparts during the 2004 presidential election. Examples include paid Democrat operatives charged with slashing tires on GOP get-out-the-vote vans in Milwaukee and an Ohio court order stopping Democrat operatives from calling voters telling them the wrong date for the election and faulty polling place information.

Sorry folks. I am calling ******** on this group and on this report. The group was newly formed this year, it appears to be made up of nothing but Republicans, and for what it is worth, non-partisan groups concerned with voting rights don’t issue reports that amount to little more than “Democrats are worse. Neener Neener Neener!”

This appears to be nothing more than propaganda, and I will treat it as such. And since some of you will doubt the partisan nature of this report, here is an excerpt from the executive summary:


While Democrats routinely accuse Republicans of voter intimidation and suppression, neither party has a clean record on the issue. Instead, the evidence shows that Democrats waged aggressive intimidation and suppression campaigns against Republican voters and volunteers in 2004. Republicans have not been exempt from similar criticism in this area, as alleged voter intimidation and suppression activity by GOP operatives led the Republican National Committee to sign a consent decree repudiating such tactics in 1982. However, a careful review of the facts shows that in 2004, paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression efforts than their Republican counterparts.

I have no problem with the RNC paying for people to examine incidences of voter fraud and intimidation by Democrats and reporting them. But no one gets a free pass to have what amounts to little more than a partisan front group pretend to be a non-partisan ‘voter rights group.’ It isn’t acceptable when Democrats do it, and it isn’t acceptable when Republicans do it.

*** Update ***

The story has been yanked from the AZ website, and lefty bloggers are having a field day.

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In short, the ACVR is just a Republican front group posing as non-partisan. For example, their supposed Democrat Chairman Brian A. Lunde and his wife each contributed $2000 to George Bush. Check Here.

Originally Posted by Broken

Heh. This is what John Cole has to say about the supposedly non-partisan nature of "":

Via Memeorandum, I see that the “American Center for Voting Rights” has just issued a report stating the following:


The ACVR Legislative Fund report, “Vote Fraud, Intimidation & Suppression In The 2004 Presidential Election,” finds that while Democrats routinely accuse Republicans of voter intimidation and suppression, neither party has a clean record on the issue. The report finds that paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression activities than were their Republican counterparts during the 2004 presidential election. Examples include paid Democrat operatives charged with slashing tires on GOP get-out-the-vote vans in Milwaukee and an Ohio court order stopping Democrat operatives from calling voters telling them the wrong date for the election and faulty polling place information.

Sorry folks. I am calling ******** on this group and on this report. The group was newly formed this year, it appears to be made up of nothing but Republicans, and for what it is worth, non-partisan groups concerned with voting rights don’t issue reports that amount to little more than “Democrats are worse. Neener Neener Neener!”

This appears to be nothing more than propaganda, and I will treat it as such. And since some of you will doubt the partisan nature of this report, here is an excerpt from the executive summary:


While Democrats routinely accuse Republicans of voter intimidation and suppression, neither party has a clean record on the issue. Instead, the evidence shows that Democrats waged aggressive intimidation and suppression campaigns against Republican voters and volunteers in 2004. Republicans have not been exempt from similar criticism in this area, as alleged voter intimidation and suppression activity by GOP operatives led the Republican National Committee to sign a consent decree repudiating such tactics in 1982. However, a careful review of the facts shows that in 2004, paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression efforts than their Republican counterparts.

I have no problem with the RNC paying for people to examine incidences of voter fraud and intimidation by Democrats and reporting them. But no one gets a free pass to have what amounts to little more than a partisan front group pretend to be a non-partisan ‘voter rights group.’ It isn’t acceptable when Democrats do it, and it isn’t acceptable when Republicans do it.

*** Update ***

The story has been yanked from the AZ website, and lefty bloggers are having a field day.

Filed under: General Stupidity, Politics |

Look it's the logical fallacy of ad hominem.