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    Victims Of ‘Legitimate Rape’ Don’t Get Pregnant - GOP Senate nominee

    ....more ammunition for the 'GOP hates women' thread on the Dem's campaign.

    I shudder to think what 'legitimate rape' means in this guy's mind - I suspect that somewhere in that dark place women who get pregnant (32,000 last year) either enjoyed the experience or are just making it up. The standard 'I misspoke' defence doesn't even sorta cut it here.


    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — In an effort to explain his stance on abortion, Representative Todd Akin, the Republican Senate nominee from Missouri, provoked ire across the political spectrum on Sunday by saying that in instances of what he called “legitimate rape,” women’s bodies somehow blocked an unwanted pregnancy.

    Asked in an interview on a St. Louis television station about his views on abortion, Mr. Akin, a six-term member of Congress who is backed by Tea Party conservatives, made it clear that his opposition to the practice was nearly absolute, even in instances of rape.

    “It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare,” Mr. Akin said of pregnancies from rape. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.”

    The comments, made during an interview with KTVI-TV that was posted on Sunday on the station’s Web site, provoked howls of outrage from Democrats and women’s rights organizations. Senator Claire McCaskill, the Democrat who will face Mr. Akin in the November election, immediately took to Twitter with a blunt response. “As a woman & former prosecutor who handled 100s of rape cases,” she wrote, “I’m stunned by Rep Akin’s comments about victims this AM.”

    Mr. Akin quickly backtracked from his taped comments, saying he “misspoke.”

    “In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it’s clear that I misspoke in this interview, and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year,” Mr. Akin, who has a background in engineering and is a member of the House science committee, said in a statement. “I recognize that abortion, and particularly in the case of rape, is a very emotionally charged issue. But I believe deeply in the protection of all life, and I do not believe that harming another innocent victim is the right course of action.”

    The Republican presidential ticket of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan was quick to distance itself from Mr. Akin’s remarks.

    “Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement,” the campaign said. “A Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape.”

    Ms. McCaskill, who is seeking a second term in the Senate, is seen as one of the most politically vulnerable Democratic incumbents on the ballot this fall, beset by her ties to President Obama and tens of millions in dollars spent against her by outside advocacy groups.

    Mr. Akin, 65, won the Senate Republican primary this month with strong support from Missouri’s religious conservatives. But he was also helped by Ms. McCaskill, whose campaign spent nearly $2 million on ads portraying Mr. Akin as ultraconservative. It was a clear attempt to bolster his candidacy among more conservative primary voters while gambling that the independents and moderate Republicans needed to win the election would be turned off by his views on social issues.

    Political observers have said Ms. McCaskill’s best chance of defending her seat, and perhaps the Democrats’ majority in the Senate, is to paint her opponent as extreme.

    “Claire McCaskill will certainly amplify this remark, make sure everybody’s heard it,” said Dave Robertson, a professor of political science at the University of Missouri-St. Louis.

    Mike Talboy, the Democratic minority leader in the Missouri Legislature, said that he had spoken to members of both parties about Mr. Akin’s comments and had found uniform outrage.

    “Nobody has defended him,” Mr. Talboy said. “That, I think, is pretty telling.”

    Brian Walsh, the communications director for the National Republican Senatorial Committee, declined to address what impact Mr. Akin’s comments might have on the Senate race. But he wrote in an e-mail that “Congressman Akin did the right thing by quickly correcting the record and acknowledging that he misspoke.” He said the election would be a referendum on Ms. McCaskill’s voting record and support for the president’s agenda.

    If this state is truly aligning itself with more conservative values, some believe that Mr. Akin’s comments might actually help him politically.

    Jamie Tomek, president of the Missouri branch of the National Organization for Women, who lives in the county where Mr. Akin grew up and says she knows his parents, said she was not surprised by the statement and did not think it would cost him much ahead of the election.

    “He is very far right and very likely to make those types of statements,” Ms. Tomek said.


    John Eligon reported from Kansas City, and Michael Schwirtz from New York. Rebecca Berg contributed reporting from Washington.
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    I bet I finally agree with Bigfella on something. This Akin guy is a dunderhead and needs to drop out and rethink his stance on rape victims being able to mind-control their own uteri. Maybe he needs to re-take junior high Health class.

    Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem View Post
    I bet I finally agree with Bigfella on something. This Akin guy is a dunderhead and needs to drop out and rethink his stance on rape victims being able to mind-control their own uteri. Maybe he needs to re-take junior high Health class.

    Sheesh.

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    Ditto. A complete numbskull. Women have a biological defense against rapist sperm...geez. That theory went out with the Model T Ford.

    BF, this one won't get much traction as an anti-GOP issue.
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    On the one hand, there are plenty rumors he will drop out, even though he is saying he won't, while on the other hand, polls still have him winning, despite the comment...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigross86 View Post
    while on the other hand, polls still have him winning, despite the comment...
    Which says what about a significant part of his target constituancy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD_333 View Post
    Ditto. A complete numbskull. Women have a biological defense against rapist sperm...geez. That theory went out with the Model T Ford.

    BF, this one won't get much traction as an anti-GOP issue.
    In and of itself I agree, outside Missouri it won't do a lot by itself. Of course, if it changes the senate race in Missouri it does have national implications. It will, however, play into a campaign to depict the GOP as 'anti-women'. This will also be directed at folks like Paul Ryan who support the extremist 'personhood pledge', forced & unecessarily intrusive scans on women who undergo abortions etc. To the extent that this reinforces that image it is bad news for the GOP - I think the 'gender gap' in polling right now is 15%. The Dems will flog this for all they are worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monash View Post
    Which says what about a significant part of his target constituancy?
    That they understand most of us say stupid things every once in a while and shouldn't be judged solely on one stupid remark? After all, it's not like he said he once was under sniper fire at a Bosnian airport or that the President called him on 9/11 or that he never inhaled or that his bastard was really his campaign manager's or that he never stole classified documents and destroyed them or that he was in Cambodia during Christmas in 1968.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem View Post
    That they understand most of us say stupid things every once in a while and shouldn't be judged solely on one stupid remark? -dale
    With respect the comment would appear to be more than just a "stupid remark" since it formed part of a line of reasoning expressed during a formal TV interview, it was not "ambush questioning" on a topic out of left field. As a result his comments seem to indicate a high degree of ignorance regarding sexual assault issues (as well as a woeful ignorance of human biology as it applies to conception). He obviously made the comments in an attempt to appeal to a specific part of his electorate i.e. anti-abortion/pro-life, hoping in the process to gain political capital. He chose to take the big step forward, now we see if the mine blows his foot off.
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    Which says what about a significant part of his target constituancy?
    That they'd rather have an ignoramus instead of a liar as a political leader? At least the ignorant can be educated. The adult liar is simply a deceitful ass, lying to make himself look different, cooler, "better".

    That said, I'd rather have neither as a leader of society.

    I understand you were talking about this specific race. I was referring to the "sniper hero" as referenced by dale.

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    One friend quoted her friend's twitter. "Yes, my body does have a mechanism that prevents pregnancy caused by rape. It's called a Makarov."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple C View Post
    One friend quoted her friend's twitter. "Yes, my body does have a mechanism that prevents pregnancy caused by rape. It's called a Makarov."
    I recommend +P JHP medicine in the mag. I too have a solution for anyone trying to rape my daughter - it says Mossberg 500 on the mechanism and #8 - 3" Mag on the "pills". If necessary, I will liberally apply it to the groin and CM of any perp who requires "treatments".
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    Just watched the cnut on tv trying to backtrack , slimy twat


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    The GOP practically disowned Todd Akin's today by pulling funding for his campaign. Time to move on, Todd. Think of what's best for your family...
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    Quote Originally Posted by USSWisconsin View Post
    I recommend +P JHP medicine in the mag. I too have a solution for anyone trying to rape my daughter - it says Mossberg 500 on the mechanism and #8 - 3" Mag on the "pills". If necessary, I will liberally apply it to the groin and CM of any perp who requires "treatments".
    Scientifically proven to be more reliable than rehabilitation when administered by properly trained technician.
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