Thread: Obama seeks authority to continue to shrink goverment

Originally Posted by Laser

According to a Googled USA Today article dated March 4, 2010- the average Fed worker made $67,756 while the average private sector worker made $45,155.

doesnt really mean anything if it isnt apples to apples. the thing I didnt notice was an allowance for census workers on that other website as well. It's also worth noting Obama is constrained by the spending congress authorizes. He cant just hire 200k goverment workers because the mood strikes

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

doesnt really mean anything if it isnt apples to apples. the thing I didnt notice was an allowance for census workers on that other website as well. It's also worth noting Obama is constrained by the spending congress authorizes. He cant just hire 200k goverment workers because the mood strikes

Obama hasn't shrunk the federal government.

The title you selected for this thread was "Obama seeks authority to continue to shrink government."

He can't continue doing something he has yet to begin, especially as what he's done thus far is the polar opposite of "shrinking".

The federal bureaucracy has been expanded by 200,000 positions during the Obama administration. The entire temporary increase in census workers has come and gone between beginning of his administration and today, and what we're left with is a federal bureaucracy that has swelled by 200,000.

The expansion of the federal government since he took office is due to:

1. The Recovery Act
2. The 2010 Federal Budget

Both of which the Obama administration drew up, submitted, and were passed by a Democratic Congress.

175,000 jobs were added in his first two years (avg. 87,500 per year) - a rate which slowed to 17,000 jobs in FY 2011 with Republican control of the House and the 2011 budget impasse.

Originally Posted by tgbyhn

Obama hasn't shrunk the federal government.

The title you selected for this thread was "Obama seeks authority to continue to shrink government."

He can't continue doing something he has yet to begin, especially as what he's done thus far is the polar opposite of "shrinking".

The federal bureaucracy has been expanded by 200,000 positions during the Obama administration. The entire temporary increase in census workers has come and gone between beginning of his administration and today, and what we're left with is a federal bureaucracy that has swelled by 200,000.

The expansion of the federal government since he took office is due to:

1. The Recovery Act
2. The 2010 Federal Budget

Both of which the Obama administration drew up, submitted, and were passed by a Democratic Congress.

175,000 jobs were added in his first two years (avg. 87,500 per year) - a rate which slowed to 17,000 jobs in FY 2011 with Republican control of the House and the 2011 budget impasse.

the two sources disagree so I wouldnt be willing to surrender that point. Reguardless though eliminating overlapping or nonsensical divisons of responsibility as well as redundant management chains seem like an idea wveryone could support

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

the two sources disagree so I wouldnt be willing to surrender that point. Reguardless though eliminating overlapping or nonsensical divisons of responsibility as well as redundant management chains seem like an idea wveryone could support

You posted a graph of a screenshot that wasn't from the PDF you claimed it was from. Despite that - the only decline in public sector employment has been on the state and local level, mostly in education. Due to shrinking to stagnant tax receipts (especially property) and increasing liabilities (e.g. teacher pensions). It's not a positive, and it has nothing to do with Obama.

The Post Office is self-funded and makes its own decisions regarding hiring and layoffs. Any employment cuts there aren't due to Obama or the federal budgets, but declining consumer purchases of their services and products, and the P.O. balance sheet. Just like UPS or FedEx.

The federal workforce has expanded under Obama, by nearly 200,000 jobs.