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  1. 28 Apr 11,, 02:08 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    Trump is a gamer. Trump forced Obama's hand and he gave in. Trump 1 - Obama 0
    I think Trump was simply the last straw. If it were me I would have held that card until the general election and prayed I would be running against a birther. Then play the card and show the world what a moron the birther is.
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    This must be so embarrassing to the far right wingnuts. What can they possibly focus on now?

    Personally, I disagree with the President on this one, both the decision to release it and – once that decision was made – the timing.

    If he had just kept quite, all those Birthers would continue to waste their time, energy and money on useless nonsense. Now, they have the opportunity to actually try to do something effective. That’s scary.

    But, once the decision was made, why oh why not wait until a politically useful moment? Doesn’t make sense.

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    After this, Donald Trump must be considering dropping out of the race.

    The issue of Mr Obama’s eligibility for office was established a very long time ago. If his political opponents choose to refuse to believe the quite acceptable evidence presented back then, and do so for purely political purposes, then they will have to now accept the consequences of their actions.

    After all, it’s the adult thing to do.


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    Julie,
    It was Gary Trudeau, not Donald Trump, who nudged the President's elbow, by showing the idiocy of the Birthers and their Annointed One, The Donald.
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    10 bucks that Fox will spend the next month trying to make make a mega conspiracy theory on this zzzzzzzzzzzz

    Wait, didn't Trump say that he'll release something too if Obama showed his birth cirtificate?? or did I just watch too much Conan (unfortunately these days Conan and Stewart seems like about as crediable of a news source as the actual news channals)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingWave View Post
    10 bucks that Fox will spend the next month trying to make make a mega conspiracy theory on this zzzzzzzzzzzz
    I'll take your money.

    They were laughing about it this morning...

    Obama should ask Trump to produce his, lol.
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    Trump Unable To Produce Certificate Proving He's Not A Festering Pile Of Shit | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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    Okay the Constitutional government of the State of Hawaii, Republican officials in the Constitutional government of the State of Hawaii, stated the president was born an American citizen.

    I would love to hear all of the states rights advocates weigh in on whether or not this was good enough......

    This was asked (unneeded) almost 3 years ago and answered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
    Trump Unable To Produce Certificate Proving He's Not A Festering Pile Of Shit | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
    More to the point, can he produce the birth certificate for that thing on his head?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    Okay the Constitutional government of the State of Hawaii, Republican officials in the Constitutional government of the State of Hawaii, stated the president was born an American citizen.

    I would love to hear all of the states rights advocates weigh in on whether or not this was good enough......

    This was asked (unneeded) almost 3 years ago and answered.
    Add: the current governor was in the hospital on the day Mr Obama was born. (He was friends of BHO's parents.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    Trump is a gamer. Trump forced Obama's hand and he gave in. Trump 1 - Obama 0
    I think Obama wanted those on the right to get just that impression.Trump would be a dream candidate.....for team Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    I think Trump was simply the last straw. If it were me I would have held that card until the general election and prayed I would be running against a birther. Then play the card and show the world what a moron the birther is.
    Agree Bonehead. He should have let it run 6 months more. Putting on my conspiracy theorists hat, maybe this is designed to boost Trump's standing. The more air he sucks from serious GOP candidates & the more support he gets at this point the better it is for Obama.
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    Who started all this "birther" stuff? I don't mean the name. I mean who started to question Obama's place of birth? Someone has to have started somewhere, right? The entire right wing extremists faction didn't just all wake up one day and said "hey....I don't think Obama was born in this country."

    Who was it?
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    Obama's birth certificate: The issue will last as long as his presidency. - By David Weigel - Slate Magazine
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    Quote Originally Posted by astralis View Post
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    i'd have more sympathy for that viewpoint were it the Federal Election Committee asking that question. a bunch of conspiracy-minded cranks-- no.
    So American citizens do not have the right to vet candidates for their leadership?

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