Thread: Obama releases long-form birth certificate

Originally Posted by DOR

Here's some ammo for the next time you're asked--

The most obvious lie was the justification for invading Iraq. As we knew then, and as we know now, there was never any connection between the only secular regime in the Middle East and the fundamentalist terrorists who attacked America on 9-11. (cf Republican National Committee Platform, 2000.)

Paul Wolfowitz and his former assistant, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, defined the doctrine of preemption and unilateralism that was later revised by Dick Cheney (1992) and became known as the Bush Doctrine. This created the intellectual [sic] space for Donald Rumsfeld to recommend invading Iraq, during the first NSC meeting held on 9-11. The administration then set about justifying why the invasion, destruction and oh-so-poorly-executed occupation of another sovereign nation was not strictly something out of the vast right-wing conspiracy’s bag of tricks.

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The 2000 Presidential election saw more concern about fairness than any presidential election in living memory. In Florida, the efforts to ensure a GOPer victory began early, with the purging of the electoral rolls of more than 54,000 people identified as felons (and, 54% African-Americans), the majority of whom were innocent cases of misidentification. A BBC interview with ChoicePoint VP James Lee on the subject showed that it was the intent to disenfranchise more people than were actually verified as being convicted felons.

Under the rules, John Williams = William John = John P. William = William G. John, Jr. African-Americans accounted for 88% of those removed from the rolls, although they comprise just 11% of the state’s voters. In all, 1% of voters and 3% of African-American voters were removed from the rolls.

Florida State Senator Daryl Jones (D-Miami) said there was an executive order to set up road blocks in heavily Democratic areas, to discourage a high voter turnout. Secretary of State Katherine Harris’ consultation with GOPer consultants and advisers – exclusively – was blatantly partisan.

You stated that Bush lied, but then don't speak to Bush. You talk about how the GOP stole the election, but then don't provide any evidence about what the GOP did. Do you always waste time like this?

Shek,

Are you having reading comprehension problems? The reason I ask is that you quote my statement of evidence and then ask where the evidence is?

This has happened more than once, and I am growing concerned.

Originally Posted by DOR

Shek,

Are you having reading comprehension problems? The reason I ask is that you quote my statement of evidence and then ask where the evidence is?

This has happened more than once, and I am growing concerned.

I'm growing concerned about how much time you have left on this board.

I'll do you a favor - consider this a strong hint:

Did you read the thread provided earlier, or perhaps search out and read any others?

-dale

This will get Obama elected another 4 years. Mark it here.

(yes previous Presidents have won wars and failed, but I think the environment is different, this will get him 4 years, this will fall under his legacy, snatching Osama deservedly another 4 years! )

#winning!

Originally Posted by DOR

Shek,

Are you having reading comprehension problems? The reason I ask is that you quote my statement of evidence and then ask where the evidence is?

This has happened more than once, and I am growing concerned.

David, as much as I admired you, GROW THE **** UP! We have challenged you and your response is that we don't understand you. For a lack of a better term, FU_CK YOU! I have provided the military evidence and you've provided sh!T.

Shek is a Major teaching at West Point. He will get his LCols.

You know my rank.

Counter our military evidence instead of preaching you are the authority - which you are NOT.

IF YOU WANT, I WILL REPOST MY EVIDENCE! BUT BE ADVISED, YOU ARE NOT THE AUTHORITY YOU ARE PRETENDING TO BE! I AM!

Originally Posted by Dago

This will get Obama elected another 4 years. Mark it here.

(yes previous Presidents have won wars and failed, but I think the environment is different, this will get him 4 years, this will fall under his legacy, snatching Osama deservedly another 4 years! )

#winning!

Dago,

I agree. While it is true that foriegn policy is not an election winner, it can help. Further, this undermines a lot of the work Obama's opponents have been doing to portay him as a foreign policy disaster. People will remember this long after they forget the minutae of Obama's handling of a given situation. This neutralizes a potential negative and adds a positive. it won't get him over the line, but it helps.

Originally Posted by Bigfella

Dago,

I agree. While it is true that foriegn policy is not an election winner, it can help. Further, this undermines a lot of the work Obama's opponents have been doing to portay him as a foreign policy disaster. People will remember this long after they forget the minutae of Obama's handling of a given situation. This neutralizes a potential negative and adds a positive. it won't get him over the line, but it helps.

Oh certainly, and this isn't a partisan opinion, the same would be true if to was George W or even someone like McCain. Osama Bin Laden, was something that has been the number one priority of the United States, we can argue the significance it may have, but make no mistake about the importance this was too the United States and the American people.

This has brought a lot of joy also, and the feel of an accomplishment. It wasn't in my time that we landed on the moon, but as of now in my generation, this was as close to it got. After 10 years, the news, Bin Laden is dead. Was an amazing feeling of triumph. I felt like being a kid again, and lighting off some m80's. A few people were on the street, and we were yelling, and talking to each other. Surreal.