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**McFire** · 18 Apr 11,, 22:01

Originally Posted by gunnut

Question, did he need a passport to travel to Indonesia to live there?

Good question. No, not if he was adopted by Lolo Soetero when he married Stanley Ann Dunham Obama. Then young Barry Soetero would be an Indonesian citizen.

**Roosveltrepub** · 18 Apr 11,, 22:26

Originally Posted by McFire

Good question. No, not if he was adopted by Lolo Soetero when he married Stanley Ann Dunham Obama. Then young Barry Soetero would be an Indonesian citizen.

it would leave a paper trail of the father giving up parental rights.
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**gunnut** · 18 Apr 11,, 22:44

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

it would leave a paper trail of the father giving up parental rights.
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Why is he afraid to show this birth certificate? I don't understand the reluctance. What is that line of reasoning that liberals use to register guns? If you have nothing to hide, then why are you against it?

I believe Obama was born in Hawaii. It's the arrogance that I detest.

**Parihaka** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:02

Originally Posted by astralis

gunnut,

why wouldn't i "want to see it", considering i didn't even vote for him?

note what i said:

politicians are, by their very nature, publicity whores.

but, it's easy to tell whom is a bigger one. both trump and palin are far, far worse in this aspect than obama ever was. unless you have some videos of obama starring on a reality TV show...

Oh come on, he let Celebrity Chef America us the White House and his Missus did a guest appearance

**Parihaka** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:08

Originally Posted by McFire

The only passport he has shown is his most recent one (curiously with the issue and expiration dates blurred out).

The question was, "Did he have an American passport in 1981?" We don't know for sure because he has his records sealed. Most people are proud to show where they've been and prove it with an old passport. Obama is supposed to be the transparent one. What's he hiding?

He managed to get an American passport issued as an adult. Are you saying the issuing authorities are in a conspiracy defraud the American public?

**Dreadnought** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:09

Not that Im a Birther or anything but what I dont understand is why all of the bull over this I mean even before "W" Bush was President everyone knew he was from Texas and his father Bush Sr was Director of the CIA and later President and everyone knew where he was from. Some people just like to know where their US Presidents came from and grew up. Some and probably most are proud a US President came from the same place they grew up.

**Roosveltrepub** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:12

Originally Posted by gunnut

Why is he afraid to show this birth certificate? I don't understand the reluctance. What is that line of reasoning that liberals use to register guns? If you have nothing to hide, then why are you against it?

I believe Obama was born in Hawaii. It's the arrogance that I detest.

He provided the proof He was born in the USA. There really isn't anything else to discuss. The man's not a fool. If Birther's had a time machine and could go back to the delivery room and watch they'd claim it weas a look a like. How does ignoring crazy people count as an act of arrogance. Should we be pursueing 911 conspiracy theories too?

**gunnut** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:12

Originally Posted by Parihaka

He managed to get an American passport issued as an adult. Are you saying the issuing authorities are in a conspiracy defraud the American public?

I have an American passport and I am forbidden by the Constitution to run for the presidency.

**Parihaka** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:12

Originally Posted by gunnut

Why is he afraid to show this birth certificate?

I don't have my original birth certificate. My mum says it's around somewhere, she just can't find it, what with all the shifting around. The Dept. of births deaths and marriages were happy to issue me another one however.

**Roosveltrepub** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:12

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Not that Im a Birther or anything but what I dont understand is why all of the bull over this I mean even before "W" Bush was President everyone knew he was from Texas and his father Bush Sr was Director of the CIA and later President and everyone knew where he was from. Some people just like to know where their US Presidents came from and grew up. Some and probably most are proud a US President came from the same place they grew up.

I don't think there is any mystery where he was from or where he grew up

**Parihaka** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:14

Originally Posted by gunnut

I have an American passport and I am forbidden by the Constitution to run for the presidency.

But it does demonstrate he didn't need anything other than an American passport to travel to Pakistan.

**Roosveltrepub** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:14

Originally Posted by gunnut

I have an American passport and I am forbidden by the Constitution to run for the presidency.

yes and your becoming a citizen is on file sowmwhere isnt it and not in HA. That's a federal document. Are you claiming those folks who looked at Obama's passport files wouldnt of had the brains to sell anything of merit for millions?

**gunnut** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:15

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

He provided the proof He was born in the USA. There really isn't anything else to discuss. The man's not a fool. If Birther's had a time machine and could go back to the delivery room and watch they'd claim it weas a look a like. How does ignoring crazy people count as an act of arrogance. Should we be pursueing 911 conspiracy theories too?

How many people have actually seen the birth certificate?

Isn't it interesting that a "consensus" calling for him to show his real birth certificate is "denied" by supporters like you. I thought you're all about "consensus."

**Roosveltrepub** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:17

oh and do people know Trump called fofr taxes on the rich to pay ther us debt and for single payer in his 2000 book? He isnt running for anything except publicity and those who say they like him here are hardly the type to support taxes to save social security, pay off the debt or unversal goverment socialized healthcare.

**gunnut** · 18 Apr 11,, 23:20

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

oh and do people know Trump called fofr taxes on the rich to pay ther us debt and for single payer in his 2000 book? He isnt running for anything except publicity and those who say they like him here are hardly the type to support taxes to save social security, pay off the debt or unversal goverment socialized healthcare.

And also Trump said Bush was evil and should be impeached, and Obama could be the best president in the history of this nation.

Trump is a liberal plant.