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    Strict US visa policy scares away students, investors Wed May 4, 3:30 AM ET



    WASHINGTON (AFP) - A teenage Asian girl with a valid student visa was handcuffed and deported for entering the United States five days earlier than stipulated, highlighting strict American immigration policy.

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    A 79-year-old British historian, who came to work at the US Library of Congress on the life of US former chief diplomat Henry Kissinger, was herded on arrival in a wheelchair at Washington's Dulles airport to a small room facing a superintendent with a revolver in his hip for no apparent mistake.

    Although all his travel papers were in order, "I was stopped and treated rather disgracefully," lamented Sir Alistair Horne at a conference in Washington Tuesday.

    Stringent enforcement of US visa policy and seemingly overzealous immigration officers following the September 11, 2001 terror attacks are not only scaring away foreign students and tourists but dampening the investment climate of the world's richest nation and taking a toll on its economy, experts told the conference organized by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

    Among the other cases cited to highlight the economic, security, scientific and diplomatic implications of changes in US visa policy were:

    -- An international business conference in Hawaii had to be shifted to Hong Kong at the last minute because the organizers could not obtain travel papers for most of its participants, who were from China.

    -- Some of US aviation giant Lockheed Martin Corporation's testing of its civil space activities have been delayed because visas could not be obtained on time for Russian scientists.

    -- A company in northern Illinois waited in vain for seven months for its prospective buyers from China to get a visa to inspect its products and close a multi million dollar sale. Eventually the company became bankrupt and was auctioned off.

    According to one private sector study, US businesses lost nearly 31 billion dollars in sales between 2002 and 2004 because foreign executives could not get into the United States to purchase American goods and services or attend trade shows.

    From 2003 to 2004, there was a roughly 30 percent decline in the number of applicants for US graduate programs and correspondingly 20 percent decline in admissions, university figures showed.

    The situation is critical and requires the personal intervention of President George W. Bush, former defense secretary Frank Carlucci told the conference.

    He said Bush should act to stop further erosion of US popularity overseas.

    "It is part and parcel of the anti-Americanism around the world and if the President is serious about addressing that, in that context, he has to address visa policy," Carlucci said.

    " President Bush can demonstrate leadership and demonstrate that the country is not anti-foreigner and that we are not closing the gates and he can encourage the bureaucracy to make sense out of a patchwork quilt -- it is slowly coming together but needs to come together much faster."

    Lockheed Martin's corporate international business development vice-president Richard Kirkland said "what is important is predictability and process" of getting approval for visas.

    Nearly 100 percent of aerospace programs in the United States involve some form of foreign participation or content, he said.

    "America's post-9/11 visa policy is threatening our country's economic security, and reforms are needed to boost US exports, maintain our technological leadership and create jobs," said Don Manzalo, head of the small business committee at the House of Representatives.

    "Multinationals are setting up shop overseas to avoid our arbitrary visa process," said Monzalo, who is campaigning for a fast track visa program for companies.

    He had brokered a deal between the United States and China earlier this year allowing executives to travel between the two countries under a single visa for 12 months instead of seeking new visas for each trip.

    The Migration Policy Institute, an independent think tank which studies movement of people worldwide, said Tuesday it was convening a bipartisan panel of US lawmakers, business leaders and public policy and immigration experts to consider immigration reforms.

    "Neither national security nor individual liberties can be properly safeguarded in the United States without sensible and effective immigration laws," said Lee Hamilton, among those who led a special commission that investigated the 2001 terror attacks.

    William Webster, former CIA and FBI head, said by scaring away foreign students, "we are losing an opportunity for public diplomacy because the best ambassadors we can possibly have are these students."

    Jordan's ambassador to Washington Karim Tawfiq Kawar said there had been a drop of more than 30 percent of students from the Arab world coming to the United States to study.

    A survey showed 65 percent of students from six Middle East countries still wanted to study in the United States but "only one quarter of those who came here had a positive experience."


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    Cool, this thread is very encouraging!!!

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    Even to visit the USA on a tourist visa is a nightmare.

    Short of a DNA test, everything is required and then wait in agony of anticipation! (Of course I am exaggerating a bit, but a US visa is the most difficult to get).

    Winning a lottery is easier!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    Even to visit the USA on a tourist visa is a nightmare.

    Short of a DNA test, everything is required and then wait in agony of anticipation! (Of course I am exaggerating a bit, but a US visa is the most difficult to get).

    Winning a lottery is easier!
    There is easier way! All you have to do to first reach Mexico and then try to sneek past the 13,000 borders gaurds who patrol the unfenced part of the border ( yes substantial part of the border is fenced, it is known as "Toritia curtain") deploying high tech gadegets. If you were lucky enough to go past them and survived the ordeal of the deseart (on the average about 300 die crossing the deseart), then you can work as an illegal immgrant for $2 /hour!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by konkerer
    There is easier way! All you have to do to first reach Mexico and then try to sneek past the 13,000 borders gaurds who patrol the unfenced part of the border ( yes substantial part of the border is fenced, it is known as "Toritia curtain") deploying high tech gadegets. If you were lucky enough to go past them and survived the ordeal of the deseart (on the average about 300 die crossing the deseart), then you can work as an illegal immgrant for $2 /hour!!
    The alternative is $1 south of the border, looks pretty attractive to 1 million ppl a year.

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    Cool, this thread is very encouraging!!!
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    Basically, this problem would be alot easier to handle if our Immigration policy focues more strictly on student Visas, not business visas, that people who have made multiple trips should be given a grant of a new visa unless there have committed some misdemeanor or felony between thier last visit and the current request. More over, our current border situation, especially with Canada is a G'damned joke. Last time I crossed, the questions were simple and anyone willing to make a lie here or there could cross with a damned arsenal.

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    Equally on the Southern border, San Diego-Tijuana is the busiest border crossing in the world, yet all they ask you is, "Are you a US citizen?" They wave you through, that's it.

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