Thread: NAACP condemns racism in tea party

And her husband does her one better.

Did someone here say something about all over the place....?

yellowfever,

from the transcript, looking at the part in question:

And when so many of our children still attend crumbling schools, and a black child is still far more likely to go to prison than a white child, I think the founders of this organization would agree that our work is not yet done. (Applause.)

When African American communities are still hit harder than just about anywhere by this economic downturn, and so many families are just barely scraping by, I think the founders would tell us that now is not the time to rest on our laurels.

When stubborn inequalities still persist - in education and health, in income and wealth - I think those founders would urge us to increase our intensity, and to increase our discipline and our focus and keep fighting for a better future for our children and our grandchildren. (Applause.)

And that’s why I really wanted to come here today - because I wanted to talk with you about an issue that I believe cries out for our attention - one that is of particular concern to me, not just as First Lady, but as a mother who believes that we owe it to our kids to prepare them for the challenges that we know lie ahead. And that issue is the epidemic of childhood obesity in America today.

Now, right now in America, one in three children is overweight or obese, putting them at greater risk of obesity-related conditions like diabetes and cancer, heart disease, asthma.

And we’re already spending billions of dollars in this country a year to treat these conditions, and that number is only going to go up when these unhealthy children reach adulthood.

But it’s important to be clear that this issue isn’t about how our kids look. It’s not about that. It’s about how our kids feel. It’s about their health and the health of our nation and the health of our economy.

And there’s no doubt that this is a serious problem. It’s one that is affecting every community across this country. But just like with so many other challenges that we face as a nation, the African American community is being hit even harder by this issue. (Applause.)

We are living today in a time where we’re decades beyond slavery, we are decades beyond Jim Crow; when one of the greatest risks to our children’s future is their own health.

African American children are significantly more likely to be obese than are white children. Nearly half of African American children will develop diabetes at some point in their lives. People, that’s half of our children.

considering the charter of the NAACP is equality for blacks, how does any of that promote one race over another or count as "race-baiting"? where is the incitement in any of that?

when bush talked about how the republican party abandoned black people, or how charter schools were needed because "wealthy white families" could move out of neighborhoods that they couldn't, or how he promised to better fund black universities, was that race baiting? whatever happened to the whole seeing past black and white?

you're REALLY going out on a limb if you think this is race-baiting.

Originally Posted by ZekeJones

Wow..just wow.
Got a link or two to support that.

'Crash the Tea Party' founder outwitted by foes


A new activist group, Crash The Tea Party, has sprung up on the web with the sole intention of “dismantling and demolishing” the entire tea party movement. Crash’s mission statement goes on to explain “our goal is to derail the fake Tea party movement by crashing the party and highlighting the absurdity of them.” Crash repeatedly refers to tea party supporters as “racists, morons and homophobes.”

Although Crash’s website states that they will take down the tea party “by any non-violent means necessary”, the anonymous founder of the group (known as the “Mad Hatter” or Twitter name “tpartycrasher”) tweeted this on April 8th:

“When Glenn Beck dies, I plan to pour a pint of whiskey on his grave. I hope he doesn't mind if I run it through my kidneys first!!!.”

The group, who has garnered a decent amount of press attention from major cable news and conservative talk radio, says they’ve already infiltrated meetings and rallies with the intent purpose of portraying ‘real’ tea partiers in a negative light in front of the mainstream media. Misspelled signs, extreme TV interviews, and misinformation about events are some of the tactics being used by the group.
Fox News Channel's Neil Cavuto reported on his show last week that big left wing organziations like ACORN and The Huffington Post were leading the charge, urging crashers to infiltrate the biggest Tax Day Tea Party taking place in the nation’s capital on April 15th.



That same day, The Huffington Post had set up its own website calling for volunteer citizen journalists to populate the tax day rallies in what seemed like a knee jerk response to Fox's plans to broadcast live from some of the bigger tea parties.

With only 20 Twitter followers, 700 fans and 22 friends so far on Facebook; how Crash The Tea Party will fare on tax day remains to be seen. In fact, while surfing their official website, I noticed one of the topics on the discussion boards is labeled "Tea Baggers are far more interested in this site than dems." But another topic, posted by the "Mad Hatter," cites more specific instructions for crashers who want to join him for Sarah Palin’s Tea Rally on April 14th in Boston. One thing for sure is that the vitriol posted on Crash is definitely from both sides of the aisle.



Looks like this movement died out pretty quickly...even their website is down.

Originally Posted by astralis

you're REALLY going out on a limb if you think this is race-baiting.

Listen, Astralis, you might be preoccupied with everything race (God, I'm sorry to say this, but I'm going to puke if you say, 'I'm Taiwanese" one more time to support your arguments all over the board) but I, as a proud Asian American, do not care about race.

I want our President to talk about Americans.

Not some of them....ALL OF THEM!

And to answer your question, you're damn right it's race-baiting.


race baiting
noun
The act of using racially derisive language, actions, or other forms of communication in order to anger or intimidate or coerce a person or group of people.

It's race baiting because, I, as an Asian -American, Julie, as a white American, and a whole shit-pot full of people in this country are angered everytime the Obmamas talk about crap like "Black kids are more likely to be obese....etc".

Now what the hell does the government have anything to do with that?

I as an Asian-American feel offended when the Obamas frequently talk about black kids are more likely to be fat while not talking about the fact that Asian-American kids are more at risk to eye and bone disease.

Does that sound stupid to you?

It should because it is stupid.

I just want the Friggin POTUS to talk and be concerned about ALL americans ALL the time as opposed to some americans some of the time.

As an Asian-American, I find it offensive when he does that.

It's race-baiting.

Originally Posted by astralis

pari,



oh, i agree. in the context by which affirmative action was made, as a TEMPORARY program, it made sense: against the informal racist attitudes and the just barely changed formal racism of the period, there HAD to be some balance in society. black people WERE at very severe disadvantage, to the point where it applied to almost every black.

i believe it should be changed now, as originally envisioned, from race-based affirmative action to economic-based affirmative action.

but that's a side-line to julie's insinuation that black people are whiny and hide "in the shadows of color and creed" and play the race card when the "going gets tough". hell, i even asked her to clarify and she decided to stick to her guns.

Sure, we're in agreement but that isn't really my point. That was generalisations about races are an intrinsic part of discussions like this. You yourself believe that portions of the black community hide behind their blackness, the NAACP being one of many examples. I believe that Julie was making no greater negative generalisation than you, I or the NAACP do.

Originally Posted by astralis

oh, i agree. in the context by which affirmative action was made, as a TEMPORARY program,

Eric, you and I were both government employees. Can you name me ONE TEMPORARY program that has not become permanent or at least permanent policy?

Originally Posted by YellowFever

She the Flotus.

Start acting like it and talk about ALL Americans instead of seeing black and white.

She's talking to the black community about black issues. I really don't see what the problem is here. Are you suggesting that she should talk to what I presume is the NAACP about white childrens problems?

Originally Posted by YellowFever

And her husband does her one better.

Yeah that's pretty average but then his missus is a lot smarter than he is.

Originally Posted by Parihaka

She's talking to the black community about black issues. I really don't see what the problem is here. Are you suggesting that she should talk to what I presume is the NAACP about white childrens problems?

Only problem is the content of her speech(s) still talks about the "plight of the black community".

The "inequalities" suffered by the black people.

So you tell me, Pari, after reading that transcript that Astralis posted, by whom does she mean do the black people suffer these "inequalities" from?

She's talking about the blacks suffering from white racism.

Better still, she can talk about the black children all she wants but why is she comparing them side by side with white children?

Can you please answer that?

Originally Posted by 7thsfsniper

You know I'd be quicker to kick the shit out of a guy pretending to be like me than one openly opposing me. Shabaz disgusts me, those lurking in my midsts, pretending to be what I am in the name of racism, deserve my wrath far more, IMO.

I've never doubted it Sniper & I can't imagine for a moment that the man I've been talking to on these boards would tolerate that sort of behaviour.

But it was like shootin ducks ina barrel because the dems WERE like that!

Now now, I'm tryin' to be nice here.

Its a different game here. The sane people protest globalization and the whacko church in kansas screams at soldiers.

Sorry, probably didn't explain myself well (concision can be the enemy of clarity). I wasn't thinking of the excrable Fred Phelps & his cult -they are not really antiwar, but anti-homosexual. I was thinking of others, including the handful who spat at soldiers returning from Vietnam or threw blood. There are still plenty of folks who define the anti-Vietnam war movement by such people & forget the priests, conservative middle class mothers & others who were less 'spectacular'.

The irony is that the level of stupidity is nearly balanced on both sides.:(

Yes & no. Reid is a corrupt representitve of a corrupted system, but his success in politics suggests he is pretty sharp. That is why giving him a lifeline like this is indeed stupid. He should be dead & buried already.

Originally Posted by YellowFever

Only problem is the content of her speech(s) still talks about the "plight of the black community".

The "inequalities" suffered by the black people.

So you tell me, Pari, after reading that transcript that Astralis posted, by whom does she mean do the black people suffer these "inequalities" from?

She's talking about the blacks suffering from white racism.

Better still, she can talk about the black children all she wants but why is she comparing them side by side with white children?

Can you please answer that?

What I hear is someone talking to an inherently racist organisation (sorry Astralis) trying her best with people who are her tribe,her whanau, her people, to deal with real issues.
Re-listen to her speech but this time consider her frame of mind not as blaming the white man but simply "we have these problems as a people, what are we going to do about it". IMHO, this version or vision works as well as yours. Barak is a different matter, but as I say, he's not as intelligent as his missus.