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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarek Morgen View Post
    and never just one method (pulling out and praying don't count)
    That just doesn't seem natural, not to mention dampering the mood.

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    'Bout friggin time they did something about this! I never had much of a problem with females in the military, but combat unit placement is just stupid. Sooner or later, everyone else figures out what the rest of us already know. Kick PC to the curb and drive on, mission gets done.

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    Those women should just go have an abortio.... ummm.....
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    Gee? They must have a lot of farm tractors over there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THL View Post

    So I ask this....If a couple in Iraq (a married couple who are both over there, not commiting adultery) are using precautions and get pregnant anyway...do they still get in trouble?
    I reckon it would be down to the base cmdrs discretion , under which i would hope common sense would prevail , and no charges would be brought , but how often do married couples get to serve in the same theatre , where would they be housed /barracked ?? In fact i cant ever recall when (UK) a married couple ever served together IN A WAR ZONE , there may well be instances , but i aint heard of em .
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    Quote Originally Posted by THL View Post
    So I ask this....If a couple in Iraq (a married couple who are both over there, not commiting adultery) are using precautions and get pregnant anyway...do they still get in trouble?
    It sounds like they could be. I don't know how the media and the public in general would take that punishment. They would have a field-day over here. If a married pregnant woman was jailed in the UK there would be an outcry and questions asked in Westminster.

    If people are using pregnancy as an excuse to get out of service in theatre, then I would rather not have them behind me anyway but to class it as a jailable crime is troublesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THL View Post
    So I ask this....If a couple in Iraq (a married couple who are both over there, not commiting adultery) are using precautions and get pregnant anyway...do they still get in trouble?
    I assume the UCMJ is similar but I have the two up on charges even if they've just shared a bed for sleep and not sex.

    However, it has been known that the NCMs tend to hide such things from us officers.
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    Not having sex with my wife? Yeah, like that is ever going to happen. The general can take that order and shove it up his ass.

    The military "no sex rule" has been violated since its inception. You do not even need the opposite sex to violate it, and no, that is not a pretty picture either.

    All they really have to do is find a method of birth control that is out of the troops control. Shots, injections and whatnot. The bottom line is that we, as a species, have the technology, but rarely the will power which is why we have so many unwanted pregnancies and STD's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    Not having sex with my wife? Yeah, like that is ever going to happen. The general can take that order and shove it up his ass.
    For the senior NCMs, they make it happen. If for nothing else, then to deny the young kids the excuse to do rape.

    I have married couples served under me in theatre. They meet for lunch and that's it, not even holding hands.

    Did it happenned? I don't know. Did I suspect? Yes. Can I prove it? No. Can the privates use their excursion as an excuse? Not on their lives!
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    To deny married couples the ability of sex goes above and beyond the call of duty in my book. Rape is another thing all together.

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    If women weren't in these units where it mattered then it wouldn't be a problem.

    For rear ech troops it shouldn't matter really. Why the hell are couples being stationed together together anyway? Is it still the military or club Med?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7thsfsniper View Post
    If women weren't in these units where it mattered then it wouldn't be a problem.

    For rear ech troops it shouldn't matter really. Why the hell are couples being stationed together together anyway? Is it still the military or club Med?
    When the USS Acadia came back from deployment in the Persian Gulf in 1991 she was missing 36 of her female crew, all due to pregnancy transfers.

    I'm not too sure couples have much to do with it since I would think they are smarter and would take more precautions than a casual encounter would. In the end though, I think it all boils down to biology and time. Naturally speaking, boys and girls are built to do one thing together, and it's not repairing radio sets or retreading tires on humvees.
    You know JJ, Him could do it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumrunner View Post
    . Naturally speaking, boys and girls are built to do one thing together, and it's not repairing radio sets or retreading tires on humvees.
    Haa , yes they are , and ya missed out dish washing and hoovering etc etc






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    I do you think there are some who would use pregnancy as an excuse to get out of a combat zone. I don't think it's fair to say no women should be there because some women got pregnant, it takes two _

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumrunner View Post
    When the USS Acadia came back from deployment in the Persian Gulf in 1991 she was missing 36 of her female crew, all due to pregnancy transfers.
    Thats ridiculous. I lack words to express what I'm thinking right now and probably for the better since it would just be a bunch of these *******************.

    I'm not too sure couples have much to do with it since I would think they are smarter and would take more precautions than a casual encounter would. In the end though, I think it all boils down to biology and time.
    I think what is good for one is good for all though. My biggest concern with couples would be a distraction from the mission if the scenario became hostile. ie, soldier abandons his post to try to save his wife.
    Naturally speaking, boys and girls are built to do one thing together, and it's not repairing radio sets or retreading tires on humvees.
    heh heh, amen to that!!

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