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This will be explosive. It concerns the same organization that Obama used to train, has used to get out the vote even after it was proven that they did so fraudulently, has steered an unbelievable windfall of almost $8 BILLION dollars of stimulus money toward even though it has been under investigation all across the country...
It is a criminal enterprise. Obama is an ally, an employer, a benefactor and a protector of what has just been shown to be an organization so immoral that it would assist in tax fraud, sexual slavery, child prostitution, human tarfficking, and about a hundred other crimes.
THIS is the window into the President's soul. You didn't want to see it when it was just his idolization of the most destructive campus hard-Left radical, Alinsky. You ignored his 20-year close relationship to his spiritual guide and the man he entrusted his children's religious education to, the racist hater Wright. You rejected as meaningless the launch of his political career in the living room of an admitted domestic terrorist and an unrepentant communist, Ayers. And finally, as if there were any further proof needed that we know the character of the man that has tried so hard to hide it from us - and succeeded, at least among the willfully blind - we have an entire Cabinet's-worth of appointments that are working diligently to destroy the country from within: communists, tax cheats, moral failures of every kind.
Well, like the man said...you won. He's your guy. Own it. Take responsibility for what you've done to your country, and if you're STILL proud to be a Democrat, after everything that we now know about Barack Obama and the associations he's made...you are exactly what I conceive a Democrat to be.
And that's no compliment.
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
I wonder who cost us more, ACORN or Halliburton?
Can I answer that in three years?Originally Posted by zraver
It was more pointing out that corruption in order to grab more tax payer money knows no party.
With ya' there buddy! But Blues didn't tout anything about the prior admin. He was covering the out and out vile dogshit that ACORN just keeps stepping in and leaving stinky footprints all over the Whitehouse carpet.
Well, all I'm gonna say is, I didn't vote for him . . . .
"Yeah. See, we plan ahead, that way we don't do anything right now. Earl explained it to me." - Tremors, 1990
Halliburton delivered products and services, and you may not like 'em, but you got something for your money.
With ACORN, it's nothing but crime, and of the worst possible kind.
Easy call. Can you see that?
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
ACORN isn't all bad, and the amount they manage to steal is peanuts compared to what we got swindled out of by Haliburton. In 2005 it was revealed they stole 212 million. Assuming cheaper inner city housing (>$75,000) for the pimp and hoe pads ACORN could put up over 2800 such owner-operators in houses of ill repute.
Also I don't think fraud is the worst possible kind of crime. I think murder and other violent crimes top fraud. Is Obama corrupt? Of course he is, he is from the Chicago machine. But he could steal Fort Knox and the Dems would not impeach and they control the Senate for the enxt 6 years. its better to focus on Obama's policies and defeat them in detail and turn him and the dems into lame ducks.
I voted for Obama and still would today if the alternate has Palin on the ticket.I would have gladly voted for a McCain-Romney ticket.
Edit: ACORN has been funded by the US congress for many many years long before Obama came onto the scene even by republican administrations.So it is not like Obama has just started funding them.
Last edited by calass; 12 Sep 09, at 16:59.
The facilities contract for Haliburton/KBR was signed under the Clinton Administration. While KBR's had accounting issues, and so that's fair game, they were pretty much the only ones with the ability to handle the scope of the contracts let for Iraq, so while there's smoke, in this case, I've seen anyone yet to show that there was a fire in terms of how the contracts were let.
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
The Senate has seats up for grabs every two years. Given their current majority, it may take the GOP three years to have a shot of winning back the Senate, but it could be as early as two years from now.
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
Initial comment: I'm an independent with libertarian political beliefs in my mid-20s. Voted for McCain.
They're also going to take over most all student lending. It's been quieter because most of the attention has been focused on healthcare. From the Wall Street Journal: Obama Plans Government Takeover of Student Loans - WSJ.com
I'm starting to see a lot of "left-wing version of George W. Bush" in Obama. Think back to 2000, President Bush was everything that Republicans wanted in a President when he was initially elected. They got it, and we saw the results of their wishes 8 years later. His presidency left the Republicans in such horrible shape that a person as much to the left as Obama had an easy victory in the 2008 election. President Obama is everything that Democrats want in a President when he was initially elected last November. They got it, and we will see the results of their wishes over the next 4 to 8 years. He's overstretching, as all politicians are wont to do, because the only reason for a person to get into politics is power and ambition. I'm sorry, just don't think there are many honest people in D.C.
Obama and the Congress are going to leave us horribly in debt, we're not going to be able to pay for everything, we weren't able to during Bush's presidency, now that we're adding on even more things'll get much worse. All I can do is just keep myself out of debt and work at my job as an engineer. My sister is close to my age and her and her husband bought her first house this past summer. When she was with her realtor her realtor kept wanting to give her loans where they put little money down and they insisted on having a big down payment so they wouldn't have large debt overhangs. Her realtor told her she was unique for her generation. Yeah, I think that's the problem with society and government. Someday the credit card runs out, and our foreign debtors won't buy our money forever, and when that happens, a lot of people in this country that have no clue for how our financial and currency system works are going to be shocked.
"Democracy is the theory the common man knows what he wants and he deserves to get it good and hard." - H.L. Mencken, 1930s satirist from Baltimore
Well. Okay, then. I knew there were a few of you out there. I didn't know there would be very many that would publicly admit it, though. Still, the anonymity of the Internet makes it a bit easier to say, I imagine. Probably would be tougher to actually have to say it in front of family and friends.
Also, I like the straightforward way that you essentially back up the point I've been trying to make for years: Democrats are WAY more sexist than Republicans. We get that bogus charge thrown in our faces all the time, but which side's politicians are the ones that treat women as playthings, and are willing to have the inconvenient ones slagged by the machine as nuts and sluts?
And the fear of a conservative female always comes out in this form. She's off the reservation that you think you can fence all women in, and if THAT is allowed to happen, who knows which groups might start thinking as individuals, and there goes your bloc that you count on to hold onto power.
Your posts are always very interesting to me. They reveal a great deal.
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
Totally wrong...this is as worse as calling any opposition to Obama racist.
My opposition to Palin has nothing to do with her gender.I will never vote for a ticket with Huckabee either for the very same reasons.I cannot/will not vote for social conservatives,I have huge differences with their philosophies.
Yeah, they really are. They're a criminal organization.
Is that the defense that you and ACORN thinks will exonerate them: Haliburton was worse?and the amount they manage to steal is peanuts compared to what we got swindled out of by Haliburton.
Subverting democratic rule is the worst kind of crime. Attempting to destroy the entire American political system is treason. That's what they do; it's why they exist.Also I don't think fraud is the worst possible kind of crime.
With murder, you get single victims, rarely multiples, and in extremely rare cases double digits. When a democratic government is subverted by fascists, you get, at the very minimum, thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands, and in rare instances that you may have read about...MILLIONS.I think murder and other violent crimes top fraud.
It is now beyond any doubt by rational, thinking, well-informed people that ACORN has been engaged in political crime, the ultimate objective of which is to bring a one-party all-pervading regime into a position of unchallenged power, with unchallenged control and the ability and will to take and redistribute power and wealth.
WAY worse than murder. Treason.
He's worse than corrupt. But this does essentially answer my original post: who is STILL proud to be a Democrat, knowing a bit more about the type of person and organization that he chooses as his associates?Is Obama corrupt? Of course he is, he is from the Chicago machine.
I'd rather turn them into convicted criminals. They're halfway there already.But he could steal Fort Knox and the Dems would not impeach and they control the Senate for the enxt 6 years. its better to focus on Obama's policies and defeat them in detail and turn him and the dems into lame ducks.
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
- George Orwell
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