Norm Coleman

**gunnut** · 03 Jun 09, 20:10

Maybe we should adopt the proposal for organizing labor. Everyone will sign his name on the ballot. If there are doubts as to the intention of the voter, we can just look him up and ask who he voted for. It will also cut down on these "found" ballots from the back lot of a used car dealer since we can actually look up the name of the person who casted that ballot.

Let's make every vote count.

**zraver** · 03 Jun 09, 23:01

Originally Posted by gunnut

Maybe we should adopt the proposal for organizing labor. Everyone will sign his name on the ballot. If there are doubts as to the intention of the voter, we can just look him up and ask who he voted for. It will also cut down on these "found" ballots from the back lot of a used car dealer since we can actually look up the name of the person who casted that ballot.

Let's make every vote count.

Do you know how loud the dems would scream? Intimidation and transparency which ever is needed is only supposed to work in their favor.

**Roosveltrepub** · 03 Jun 09, 23:30

Originally Posted by zraver

Do you know how loud the dems would scream? Intimidation and transparency which ever is needed is only supposed to work in their favor.

yes clearly the democrats are bad people

**gunnut** · 03 Jun 09, 23:58

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

yes clearly the democrats are bad people

Hey now...:P

**zraver** · 04 Jun 09, 00:06

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

yes clearly the democrats are bad people

Gore using the Florida courts to corrupt pre-election laws to try and steal the election

ACORN voter registration fraud

Daily machine

New Black Panthers weilding clubs at a polling station

The found ballots used to defeat Norm Coleman

Attempts to deny overseas absentee ballots form the military

Attempts to deny the full recount and count of absentee ballots v Norm Coleman

Refusal to update voter registration rolls so that fraud can be checked

Democrat precincts turning in more votes than residents

democrat precincts staying open past poll closing

illegal use of union dues to fund political campaigns and political agendas

dead voters

votes from prison

votes from aliens

9 times out of 10 when you here about the corrupting of the election process in the US, its being done to favor a democrat.

**Roosveltrepub** · 04 Jun 09, 00:18

Originally Posted by zraver

Gore using the Florida courts to corrupt pre-election laws to try and steal the election

ACORN voter registration fraud

Daily machine

New Black Panthers weilding clubs at a polling station

The found ballots used to defeat Norm Coleman

Attempts to deny overseas absentee ballots form the military

Attempts to deny the full recount and count of absentee ballots v Norm Coleman

Refusal to update voter registration rolls so that fraud can be checked

Democrat precincts turning in more votes than residents

democrat precincts staying open past poll closing

illegal use of union dues to fund political campaigns and political agendas

dead voters

votes from prison

votes from aliens

9 times out of 10 when you here about the corrupting of the election process in the US, its being done to favor a democrat.

isnt it ironic you mention the illegal use of funds in an election and trying to get the courts to decide an election in a thread bout Coleman. You really believe democrats are all corrupt? You know thats something like 40 percent of the country. One knucklehead at a polling station is hardly the black panthers. You didnt mention using challenges to create long lines, trying to set up the closest id center to the largest city 60 miles away etc etc. If we are flinging mud it's endless. You are naive if you think one party is any more pure than the other.

Oh and that corrupting of the voting process is entirely subjective and 9 times out of 10 when it benefits a republican it is just false charges by democrats and of course the opposite is true as well.

Which democratic precinct turned in more votes than residents and wasnt it the republican leader of the anti acorn drive in CA who got arrested for a false registration?

**zraver** · 04 Jun 09, 00:49

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

isnt it ironic you mention the illegal use of funds in an election and trying to get the courts to decide an election in a thread bout Coleman. You really believe democrats are all corrupt? You know thats something like 40 percent of the country.

The democrat leaders are corrupt.

One knucklehead at a polling station is hardly the black panthers.

It wasn't 1, it was a group.

You didnt mention using challenges to create long lines,

Challenges are needed given the evidence of vote corruption. You should have to register before the election, prove residency and have your voter registration card. Purity of the system should trump ease of voting- after all its only our future riding on it.

trying to set up the closest id center to the largest city 60 miles away etc etc.

source?

If we are flinging mud it's endless. You are naive if you think one party is any more pure than the other.

Different poison, the Republicans for the most part fail at their job and do not corrupt the system.

Oh and that corrupting of the voting process is entirely subjective and 9 times out of 10 when it benefits a republican it is just false charges by democrats and of course the opposite is true as well.

source?

Which democratic precinct turned in more votes than residents and wasnt it the republican leader of the anti acorn drive in CA who got arrested for a false registration?[/QUOTE]

here are a couple of examples that add up to tens of thousands of votes.

Marion county In (Indianapolis), 105% of eligible voters

More Voter Registration Shenanigans: Indianapolis Has 105% Of Its Population Registered To Vote | Say Anything: North Dakota's Most Popular Political Blog

Detroit MI
theblogprof: Detroit has more registered voters than it has residents

**Roosveltrepub** · 04 Jun 09, 01:58

ok democratic leaders are all corrupt and you were right on the numbers but tell me is that corruption or an overwhelmed municipality not being able to keep up with removals? Isnt the real test whether they vote? Its only voter fraud when a vote is cast.

How about those purges in FLA in 2000> OOPS sorry we disenfranchised you. It isnt just one party you are just way off when you ascribe traits like that in generalities. It's why we have gridlock we have people so polarized they believe only in their parties righteousness and the others corruption. Daily Kos is filled with your mirrors.

oh and how ridiculous is it to claim 9 times out of 10 it benefits a democrat then ask for a source when I make a rhetorical counter claim meant to point out how ridiculous your claim was.

oh and i saw the story live on the news it was an individual and frankly he was being baited and bit.

**zraver** · 04 Jun 09, 03:42

Originally Posted by Roosveltrepub

ok democratic leaders are all corrupt and you were right on the numbers but tell me is that corruption or an overwhelmed municipality not being able to keep up with removals? Isnt the real test whether they vote? Its only voter fraud when a vote is cast.

How about those purges in FLA in 2000> OOPS sorry we disenfranchised you. It isnt just one party you are just way off when you ascribe traits like that in generalities. It's why we have gridlock we have people so polarized they believe only in their parties righteousness and the others corruption. Daily Kos is filled with your mirrors.

oh and how ridiculous is it to claim 9 times out of 10 it benefits a democrat then ask for a source when I make a rhetorical counter claim meant to point out how ridiculous your claim was.

oh and i saw the story live on the news it was an individual and frankly he was being baited and bit.

No sources from you just bait and switch.

2 pic
http://newsbusters.org/static/2008/1...iladelphia.jpg

at least 3 in this pic
http://i.cdn.turner.com/ireport/sm/p...S392789_md.jpg

Could you try honesty for once?

**BudW** · 04 Jun 09, 04:17

MN gets Franken sooner or later, its going to be shameful

**Roosveltrepub** · 04 Jun 09, 23:31

Originally Posted by zraver

No sources from you just bait and switch.

2 pic
http://newsbusters.org/static/2008/1...iladelphia.jpg

at least 3 in this pic
http://i.cdn.turner.com/ireport/sm/p...S392789_md.jpg

Could you try honesty for once?

i saw one club
Ben Smith's Blog: Vote fraud at issue in YR race - Politico.com

Vote fraud at issue in YR race
Here's an interesting entry in the long-running, partisan battle over (usually, Republican) allegations of widespread (Democratic) voter fraud:

A leading candidate to head the Young Republican National Federation is also one of the few people actually charged and convicted for voting shenanigans in recent years.

The candidate, Rachel Hoff, pled guilty to the misdemeanor of notarizing absentee ballot signatures without actually witnessing them during the 2004 South Dakota Senate race, when she was working for the state Republican Party on behalf of John Thune, who went on to beat Tom Daschle.

Local authorities charged six Republicans with violating the rules, and the State Attorney General, Larry Long, explained the rare decision to prosecute notary violations on the grounds that they had invalidated the ballots of students who intended to vote.

Long said at the time that "there's no indication that any unqualified voter tried to cast an absentee ballot," the Argus Leader reported.

The lack of indication of actual fraudulent voting didn't get in the way of a large-scale GOP effort to claim voting fraud in the run-up to last year's election, but Hoff said in an interview that she didn't see a connection.

"It's certainly an issue and it's got to be taken seriously," she said of voting fraud, saying that her goal as chair would be to help "young people make sure they're not cogs in the wheel of an unethical process" as she had been.

She called the misdemeanor, made when she was just 22 and in the process of "cutting corners," a mistake, and said it had taught her a "harsh lesson."

it's an accident when it'sa a republican right? Democrats dont make mistakes.

Anyway you are wrong. It isnt a conspiracy it's bs.

Voter suppression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**zraver** · 05 Jun 09, 00:06

A misdemeanor by a kid with no actual evidence of fraud vs major democrat strongholds with more voters than residents....

**Ironduke** · 05 Jun 09, 00:40

Originally Posted by zraver

A misdemeanor by a kid with no actual evidence of fraud vs major democrat strongholds with more voters than residents....

Here on the University of Minnesota campus in Minneapolis, I witnessed at least a dozen people vote who were legally residents of another state (mainly Wisconsin). At that polling station alone, I'd bet more out-of-state residents voted on election day than the ending margin was between Franken and Coleman.

**gunnut** · 05 Jun 09, 00:46

Originally Posted by Ironduke

Here on the University of Minnesota campus in Minneapolis, I witnessed at least a dozen people vote who were legally residents of another state (mainly Wisconsin). At that polling station alone, I'd bet more out-of-state residents voted on election day than the ending margin was between Franken and Coleman.

Could they have moved their voting residences to Minnesota? A lot of students move their residences to get the cheaper in-state tuition. That should grant them the legal status to vote in that state.

**Roosveltrepub** · 05 Jun 09, 01:03

Originally Posted by zraver

A misdemeanor by a kid with no actual evidence of fraud vs major democrat strongholds with more voters than residents....

like i said when its a republican it's an accident. Where are the democrat operatives charged with fraud? +Our system does not suffer from widescale voter fraud. for it to be voter fraud there have to be votes.

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