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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    By definition, more tolerance means the opposite of more intolerance.
    I would not have thought so - more tolerance is more tolerance for all things, including dissent.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    That's is true. However I believe the American left have forgotten about this.

    It is ok to disagree. It is ok to think the other side is wrong. But it doesn't mean you have to hate them or belittle them.
    'Zactly - which is why Righties who hate gays annoy me....they're not interested in a debate, they just use their man in the sky as a reason/excuse/cover for why they can't stand the idea of two women or men getting married or being happy.

    Tolerance is not a dirty word, nor does it have to extend to that which is genuinely wrong, but it's part of a proper democracy, a basic parity of esteem that whilst not obliged should be expected from decent people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    But intolerance of irrationality is...irrational...
    And quite intolerant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    Ahh the pillars os Society have spoken. Hepatitis P and Maaaat Dammmmon.

    Matt your movies suck and Pam just stick with the fake ***** and blond hair and you'll get by ok eh? By the way havent you been married as many times as Sara has children?:P
    Lindsey your back from drug treatment already? You must have been studying politics awful hard just to even spell the word. Do me a favor next time atleast be commitied to overdosing and get it right the first time. Idiot!

    Sara rocks!

    I swear Hollywood has become nothing more then unattached spoiled children that have more "issues" (DUI's,Drugs,Anger management, divorces time and again, stupid political outakes you name it the list goes on) then the poor many in the street. Our filmaking industry has certainly let us down with the like of these loosers and others like them.

    HINT: Stay the **** out of politics and do you dam jobs and bring us quality pictures for once instead of your mouth and personal problems! Geesh Charlton Heston must be rolling in his grave!
    These people don't like anyone showing them how you should live your life in a healthy way......you know......a way of life that helps maintain a healthy liver.

    Palin hasn't said anything about her faith. It seems the left has just been putting words in her mouth on the subject.

    But isn't it funny how quickly they've started with the venom. It took them years to build this much hate for Bush. They used to say it was all about Iraq.

    WTF has Palin done to them?


    Answer: Not a damned thing.

    They're just a bunch of bigots who hate Christians.

    Kind of sheds a light on all of the BS that Bush has been putting up with all of these years.

    And to think they've come up with this slogan: Jesus was a Community Organizer.....Ponchus Pilate was a Governor.

    So Obama is Jesus.....yet his strongest supporters hate Christians.

    Jesus said; "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

    Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by crooks View Post
    There's nothing wrong with being a homosexual - and in my view, someone who feels that the way someone was born is wrong, is intolerent.

    Simple really, and on this issue Palin is intolerent......

    An assumption you can't make.

    She's never spoken on the subject so you don't know what she personally thinks about the subject.

    My suggestion is until you hear different don't assume she's your typical hate-monger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crooks View Post
    There's nothing wrong with being a homosexual - and in my view, someone who feels that the way someone was born is wrong, is intolerent.

    Simple really, and on this issue Palin is intolerent.
    Intolerance would be "I think there's something wrong with homosexuality and I am going to refuse to serve them, treat them poorly, etc. etc. Thinking there's something wrong with homosexuality and leaving it at that isn't intolerance, it's simply thinking.

    I tolerate crap I think is wrong and/or stupid every day. Most of us do.

    Absolute tolerence is a danger, but righties often make this ******** fantasy about 'PCness' up to confuse the issues at hand, it happens in Ireland and based on this it happens in the US as well, most lefties don't want totalitarian levels of tolerence for a religion of hate, drugs, prostitution or whatever...that's not on the agenda.

    But please, love your fellow man, even if he loves other men .
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jame$thegreat View Post
    I am amazed that people are questioning Sarah Palin's "lightweight credentials" and are surprised that someone with "so little experience" can show up on the Republican ticket as Vice president, meanwhile their superstar Obama has been a senator for not even 4 years and aspires to be Commander and Chief!
    Hey let's even be magnanimous and stipulate to the fact that our Veep candidate is no more experienced than their Prez candidate.

    -dale

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem View Post
    I'm tired of being preached to about tolerance. Absolute tolerance is for people with no moral keel. F*ck tolerance.

    -dale

    And once more the poster boy for the modern GOP sallies forth. Love your work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem View Post
    Hey let's even be magnanimous and stipulate to the fact that our Veep candidate is no more experienced than their Prez candidate.

    -dale
    Sorry, I can't be that magnanimous.

    What does a Governor do?

    The Governor of Alaska is the head of the executive branch of Alaska's government and the commander-in-chief of the state's military forces. The governor has a duty to enforce state laws, and the power to either approve or veto bills passed by the Alaska Legislature,[A] to convene the legislature, and to grant pardons, except in cases of impeachment.[B] There have been eleven governors of the state of Alaska, though it had over thirty civilian and military governors during its long history as a United States territory.

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    I don't know.....the job above seems to be very similar to this job:

    The President of the United States is the head of state and head of government of the United States and is the highest political official in United States by influence and recognition. The President is at the head of the executive branch of the federal government; his role is to enforce national law as given in the Constitution and written by Congress. Article Two of the Constitution establishes the President as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and enumerates powers specifically granted to the President, including the power to sign into law or veto bills passed by both houses of Congress. The President also has the power to create a cabinet of advisers and to grant pardons or reprieves. Finally, with the "advice and consent" of the Senate, the President is empowered to make treaties and appoint federal officers, ambassadors, and federal judges, including Justices of the Supreme Court. As with officials in the other branches of the United States government, the Constitution restrains the President with a set of checks and balances designed to prevent any individual or group from taking absolute power.

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    Community organizing is a process by which people living in proximity to each other, are brought together to act in their common self-interest. Community organizers act as area-wide coordinators of programs for different agencies in an attempt to meet community needs for various services. Community organizers work actively, as do other types of social workers, in community councils of social agencies and in community-action groups. At times the role of community organizers overlaps that of the social planners.[1]

    The following groups are examples of community organizing in the United States and Canada:

    ACORN Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, Canada
    Community Anti-Drug Coalitions of America (CADCA)
    Community Farm Alliance (CFA)
    Direct Action and Research Training Center (DART)
    East Brooklyn Congregations
    Gamaliel Foundation
    Highlander Research and Education Center
    Industrial Areas Foundation
    Jewish Organizing Initiative(JOI)
    Make the Road New York
    National People's Action
    National Training and Information Center
    Oregon Action
    Philadelphia Unemployment Project (PUP)
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    West Lodge Toronto Tenants Association
    Virginia Organizing Project
    Lyndale Neighborhood Association
    Longfellow Community Council
    Christian Community Development Association

    False registrations by employees

    In some locations, ACORN employees have submitted false voter registration forms rather than obtaining registrations from actual eligible voters.

    In Ohio in 2004, four ACORN employees were indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms.[16][17]
    In January 2005 two Colorado ACORN workers were sentenced to community service for submitting false voter registrations.[18] ACORN's regional director said, "we find it abhorrent and do everything we can to prevent it from happening."[19]
    On November 1, 2006, four part time ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City, Missouri for voter registration fraud. Prosecutors said the indictments are part of a national investigation.[20] ACORN said in a press release that it is in part responsible in these individuals being caught, has fired them, and has cooperated and publicly supported efforts to look into the validity of the allegations.[21]
    ACORN was investigated in 2006 for submitting false voter registrations in St. Louis, Missouri. 1,492 fraudulent voter registrations were identified.[22][23]
    In 2007, five Washington state ACORN workers were sentenced to jail time.[24] ACORN agreed to pay King County $25 000 for its investigative costs and acknowledged that the national organization could be subject to criminal prosecution if fraud occurs again. According to King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg, the misconduct was done "as an easy way to get paid [by ACORN], not as an attempt to influence the outcome of elections."[25][26]
    In 2008, the Michigan Secretary of State office told the Detroit Free Press that ACORN had been submitting a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications to vote.[27] Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    And once more the poster boy for the modern GOP sallies forth. Love your work.

    If you tolerate everything, than everything is acceptable. Tolerance is fine until sharia law is being enforced on your daughter and wife. Tolerance is fine until gang violence spills into your neighborhood. But I think we are mistaking tolerance for agreement.

    Real tolerance, not that fake socialist tolerance, is acceptance. We do not execute homosexuals. Iran does. So does Saudi Arabia. Not sure how China, Russia, North Korea, and other communist countries handle homosexuality, but I doubt it is anywhere near accepting. We accept homosexuals. It does not mean we have to feign agreement with their lifestyle, or how they dress in ass-less chaps and perform sex acts in the street as at the Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco and elsewhere. See Zombietime.com for some examples. It does not mean we force religious institutions to accommodate them. It means we do not criminally prosecute them for their private behavior, or prevent them from owning businesses and taking part in capitalism, etc. Some states did, and that was sad. Thankfully, those laws were overturned.

    This is coming from someone who has no problem with homosexuals as long as they act like decent, law abiding people. I have no tolerance what so ever for those who dress up like a sideshow, flash their genitalia all over the place during a public parade, and then say how I have to accept that (see above for Folsom Street Fair). I have no tolerance for those who partake in a promiscuous lifestyle, that exposes them to HIV/AIDS at a rate many times higher than that of even promiscuous heterosexuals, get the disease, and then demand that the government take care of them, or get angry that the government is not doing something to make their slutty behavior safer. Don't want HIV/AIDS? Don't have unprotected sex with multiple gay partners, or share needles while using drugs. It really is that easy. Hell, we are not even saying that you don't have to do deadly, illegal narcotics. Just don't use a needle that someone with HIV/AIDS has used.

    Do I feel that churches should be compelled to marry them? Not really. I also feel that the state has no place in church business, which includes marriage, at all. Let the churches marry people, and if they wish to enter into a financial contract for some reason, let them do so. The government's role should be the enforcement and mediation of business contracts, not religious ceremonies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    And once more the poster boy for the modern GOP sallies forth. Love your work.
    See - I tolerate Bigfella.

    -dale

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    Well, the way I see it, intolerance would be putting someone on their ignore list.

    Mods do not have that option. (you have no idea how we wish we did). Therefore, I tolerate all of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem View Post
    See - I tolerate Bigfella.

    -dale
    I don't. I can't.
    "The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory."
    - George Orwell

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    I can't tolerate all this tolerance.

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    I think you're all missing the point. The only (in)tolerance you should be worried about is alcohol tolerance, as in how many barrels of drain cleaner can you drink before you go blind. And for the weaklings, how many cans of crap lagers before you passout.

    *crawls back to rock*
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