If it's so obvious, it should be simple to prove how we "control everything there" and that "they did not have the choice". Please, show me how the Iraqi government moves in lock step with the USA...Originally Posted by Ellopian
When was the last time the USA did anything by itself?
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
You control Iraq with your soldiers, you are the dominant power there, all the existing contracts with other countries before the US invasion have been canceled. Who has more chances to exploit oil in Iraq nowadays, USA or France/China/Russia?
Our soldiers don't work oil fields, or participate in the government. We don't even get that much oil from Iraq, never really did.
The Iraqis' have their own government there now. Have had for awhile now.
I know, it was excelent news. Make deals with a crazy dictator, and they can disappear in an instant. Good lesson for the whole world...
Change "USA" to "Coalition" and I'm with you. I already told you why the Iraqis do not want to deal with France/China/Russia/Syria/etc., and why they do not have a problem dealing with the Coalition.
None of what you said is proof, it's all supposition based on rhetoric.
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
You don't seem to have problems in dealing with S.Arabia (a very democratic country). You were affraid to be excluded from Saddam's oil contracts, that is the reason you went there. If you were buddies with him you would never be "shocked" by his crazyness... That's how it works, my friend wake up. Don't "eat" your governements propaganda, be smart. I'd say free your mind...
Haha! You really haven't read much from me here. I have a major problem with the USA dealing with any tyranny, regardless of if it is or isn't a democracy. If France liberates Saudi Arabia tomorrow, they will have no stronger a supporter than me. If the USA does not join the French in their endevor, then I would be joyful when all the US companies lost their contracts. My mind is free, work on your own...
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
You change your mind every 3 posts. Its not easy to understand what you really believe.
Please, show me where I personally have supported dealing with any tyranny, ever...
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
I simply don't understand your thinking.. Why did your country invaded Iraq?
What drives me crazy about USA, is that they give lessons to everyone about freedom, democracy etc... while they do what they do for $$$.
Isn't that clear enough? The boy, Eric, talked about helping the world, that's why i reacted. You don't care about the world, you care about you're supremacy and wealth.
That wasn't dealing with a tyrant, that was removing one.
In a government the size of ours, every major motive was represented. I'm not sure why anyone would have done it for the money though, it costs money to liberate, it doesn't make money. The primary reason most people supported the war here was national defence. Personally I find that sad, just as I find it sad that there were any free nations who opposed removing Saddam. But then that could be just because I support their liberation, especially since it was a known fact that it was going to happen if it came to regime change.
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
1You gave spent $ to "liberate" them, but you will earn a lot more by exploiting and controlling their oil. It was vital for your "american way of life".
2So you admit that your country's administration is hypocrite. Good news.
We could have gotten the oil by making a dirty deal with Saddam in return for a vote to drop sanctions. The oil rights are purchased from the Iraqi government, they "control" the oil fields. Get on board with helping their liberation and I'm sure they'll be happy to make deals with you again. Seriously, you cannot blame them for not selling Saddam's supporters oil rights. Though they do still sell them oil. Please show me the cost/profit index you're using to come up with the cost of liberation, from an oil source we barely tap.
Actually, I've told you several times that every country's government is hypocritical.
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
Also, none of that equates me to a person who supports dealing with tyrants. I'm still waiting for you to show me my hypocritical turns "every 3 posts".
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
You went there because you did not feel sure about Saddam... Bush would never start that war if he was sure about him: making dirty deals, as you say, would not have been a problem to him...
Why not starting a war against S.Arabia then? Why the ""Axis of evelness"" doesn't include them?
You support Bush's action in Iraq, you say it's a good thing (while knowing it was a only for oil), and after you say "i don't agree with dealing with S.Arabia".
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