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    Obama's First Flop

    We have NY Times criticizing Obama. Must be something.

    I guess threads could be merged. Sorry for repost.

    Critics assail Obama's rejection of public campaign money - Yahoo! News

    WASHINGTON (AFP) - Critics on Friday lined up to take a swing at Democrat Barck Obama's decision to reject public financing for his presidential campaign.

    In February, Obama said: "If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."

    But on Thursday he said the system was "broken" and the stakes were too high to allow unrestrained spending by the Republican Party and right-wing groups on behalf of his Republican rival John McCain.

    The move allows Obama to spend far more than the US-Treasury-mandated limit of 85 million dollars.

    Obama has raised a stunning 265 million dollars so far in his presidential bid, smashing all records for this stage of the race and far beyond the 96 million raised by McCain, who said he will take government funds.

    Editorials in both The Washington Post and The New York Times criticize the Illinois senator for shifting positions.
    "Given Mr. Obama's earlier pledge ... his effort to cloak his broken promise in the smug mantle of selfless dedication to the public good is a little hard to take," opined the Post.

    Obama "had an opportunity here to demonstrate that he really is a different kind of politician," the daily wrote. "He made a different choice, and anyone can understand why: he's going to raise a ton of money."

    The New York Times wrote that the excitement underpinning Obama's campaign "rests considerably on his evocative vows to depart from self-interested politics.

    "Unfortunately, Mr. Obama has come up short of that standard with his decision to reject public spending limitations and opt instead for unlimited private financing in the general election."

    Times conservative columnist David Brooks nicknamed Obama "Fast Eddie," after a brilliant and conniving pool shark in a 1960s Paul Newman movie.

    "There is Dr. Barack the high-minded ... but then on the other side, there's 'Fast Eddie' Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol," writes Brooks.

    He describes Obama as "the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he's too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside.

    "Republican keep calling him naive," writes Brooks, who believes instead that Obama is "the most effectively political creature we've seen in decades.
    "Even Bill Clinton wasn't smart enough to succeed in politics by pretending to renounce politics," the columnist wrote.

    Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public funds and its restrictions since they were enacted after the 1976 Watergate scandal.

    "It's a mistake," said Senator Russell Feingold, co-sponsor of a campaign finance reform bill, told the Post. "I look forward to working on this and a wide range of other reform issues with him when he becomes president."

    Obama's campaign believes that collecting small amounts of donations from millions of contributors, mostly on the Internet, is a better campaign financing system. Some 1.5 million supporters have already sent contributions with the click of a mouse.

    Obama's campaign has describe this as "a new kind of politics," outside of the influence of special interest groups.

    The Times editorial board was not convinced. "So far, however, the Web phenomenon remains unique to Mr Obama and is no reason to set the dangerous precedent of fully scrapping public financing," the paper said.

    But with exploding campaign finance expenses, "the reality is that the amount of money that comes from the government is not enough to run a modern presidential campaign," Larry Makinson, a consultant to the Center for Responsive Politics, told the New York Times.
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    More on the same note.

    Obama out of system, but not out of character - Yahoo! News

    Senator Barack Obama's announcement Thursday that he would finance his campaign with private contributions was the final step of a slow walk away from public financing that began almost as soon as his campaign started 17 months ago.


    Obama said he'd pursue public financing "aggressively." He committed to it in a written questionnaire. He even said, repeatedly, that he would meet personally with Senator John McCain to discuss a deal.

    Instead, his campaign never even asked the Republican's aides for a meeting on the subject. And Obama, both campaigns said, never asked for a face-to-face meeting with McCain.

    "It was clear that there was no point," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.

    Obama has offered a variety of reasons for opting out. He's cited the fact that McCain has, to some eyes, already skirted campaign finance rules. He's complained that McCain said he couldn't control attack ads from outside groups - though the only outside attack ads to run this cycle have been financed by Obama allies, and directed at McCain. More plausibly, Obama has argued that his reliance on small contributions is consonant with the central goal of campaign finance reform, which is liberating politicians from moneyed patrons.

    Still, Obama's widely-anticipated announcement puts clear distance between the Democratic nominee and the traditional, bipartisan "reform" movement, which has included Republicans and appealed to upper-income voters of both parties. Senator John McCain has been a champion of campaign finance reform, and his Democratic counterpart on key legislation, Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold — who supports Obama — criticized his candidate's move.

    "This is not a good decision," Feingold said Thursday in a statement. "While the current public financing system for the presidential primaries is broken, the system for the general election is not."

    Some reform groups criticized Obama, while others held their fire, and McCain himself described Obama's decision as "a big deal."

    "He has completely reversed himself and gone back, not on his word to me, but the commitment he made to the American people."

    But if Obama alienated the reformers, he won plaudits from the pragmatists.


    "The only people who care about it are a few professional activists and the press," said Bob Shrum, who argued - unsuccessfully - in 2004 that his client John Kerry should have opted out of public financing. (Kerry said Thursday he would have won the race had he done so.)

    "The reform issue that Obama takes seriously, the reform issue the voters take seriously, is to try to shift power away from special interests in Washington," said Shrum. "In terms of what I care about,
    which is winning this election, he made exactly the right decision."

    Obama's move wasn't out of character. In fact - though he has at times adopted popular reform causes - Obama has never been a traditional reformer.

    He came to politics through the community organizing movement, whose radical founder, Saul Alinsky, mocked highbrow reformers, and focused instead on the acquisition and use of power, with the ends often justifying the means.

    In Obama's political life, that approach has translated into pragmatism. He's kept his distance from elements of the Democratic Party that demand purity, from Washington reformers to more ideologically-motivated liberal bloggers. Instead, his campaign has sought the Kennedy mantle, modeling the candidate after a revered Democratic family not known for its scruples.

    "Their campaign is brutally pragmatic," said one Democratic operative. "They have the most exciting candidate since JFK and like that operation, they have their share of talented, ambitious and at times ruthless people. Barack gets to stay above the fray, while his campaign does whatever it takes to win."

    Kerry's campaign, Shrum wrote in his memoir, "No Excuses," had a fierce internal debate over whether to opt out of public financing. Obama's never seems to have seriously considered sacrificing its political advantage for a principle, and seems cheerfully resigned to being chided by East Coast editorial boards.

    Obama has adopted the reform mantle when it's been convenient, but his rejection of public financing isn't his first such reversal this cycle. In late December in Iowa, his campaign manager, David Plouffe, fiercely attacked former the "big interests" - mostly labor unions — that poured a "flood of Washington money" into the state in "underhanded" efforts to support his rivals. Obama himself mocked John Edwards' inability to stop the spending as a sign of weakness.



    But just three weeks later, Obama made no effort to stop a union that supported him from placing attack ads directed at Senator Hillary Clinton on Spanish-language radio in Nevada, and he remained silent on the rising tide of labor money that boosted his campaign in the later primaries.

    His journey on public financing was longer and more tortured, though the destination has been clear since his online fundraising exploded last spring.

    Obama was first asked about the public system on January 24, 2007, and suggested even then that he might opt out of it.

    "Even as I support public financing, I think it's very important for Democrats to be competitive in the general election," he said. "That's a decision we are going to have to make."

    That February 1, he offered a novel proposal to the Federal Elections Commission: He would raise money for the general election, but return it if he could reach an agreement with the Republican nominee to opt into the system.

    Even while getting reformist credit for keeping the option alive, however, his aides avoided any stated commitment.

    "We're looking to see if we can preserve the option," Burton told Politico February 7.

    That November, the campaign appears to have slipped up. In response to a questionnaire from the relatively obscure Midwest Democracy Network, Obama appeared to commit clearly to public financing, provided the Republican would go along.

    "If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election," he wrote.

    He repeated that phrase in an op-ed in USA Today the next February, and expanded on it in a debate later that month.

    "I will sit down with John McCain and make sure that we have a system that works for everybody," he said at a February 26 debate in Cleveland, a position he repeated in an April 27 interview with Fox News.
    "I have promised that I will sit down with John McCain and talk about, can we preserve a public system, as long as we are taking into account third party, independent expenditures," he said.

    It was the question of third-party spending that offered Obama his final pretext for pulling out of the public system. On June 12, McCain said he couldn't act as "referee" of independent groups, a stance Obama complained of in his web video Thursday morning announcing his decision to withdraw from the system.

    McCain is "not going to stop the smears and attacks from his allies running so-called 527 groups, who will spend millions and millions of dollars in unlimited donations," Obama said.

    Ironically, there are no major Republican independent efforts attacking Obama, though the left-leaning MoveOn.org has put more than $500,000 behind an advertisement showing a mother telling McCain that he can't take her infant son to war.


    Pressed to name an independent effort, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs cited Floyd Brown, an obscure Republican operative who has produced web videos attacking Obama's religion and his record, but had not raised enough money to air them.

    McCain's aides also mocked Obama's suggestion that he would "aggressively" seek an agreement with the Republican who had opted into the public financing, in the absence of his own torrent of online donations.

    "I don't think he pursued it at all - never mind aggressively," said the McCain campaign counsel, Trevor Potter.

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    Some things that immediately spring to mind;

    "If I am the Democratic Presitential Nominee"

    There's a significant amount of time between that statement and when he became the presumptive one, which is the time when the two sit down and hash this out. Anything prior to that would have been way to pre-emptive anyway - whine all you want and go eat pars**** - the Mc Cain campaign is just shitting itself because of the apparent money in the Obama Campaign.

    Second, I don't actually see a need to name any 527 groups just yet, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth didn't exist at this stage of the campaign, although you know they are going to exist. Those third party attacks are whats at the core. Obama knows he will have a huge amount of money to go after them like a pitbull for a great big political reaming. Just watch what opting out of the public system does. See something like swift boat veterans comming up? Expect high gloss campaign adds, even high profile court libel cases smaked onto that **** as the campaign money flows freely. Thats what will be organised better than any time before, responce to 527 groups. The Public will digest it, and go against the personal smear. Either or, who cares. it's political one - up - man - ship. The Guy might be able to bankroll to the tune of over 400 million, vs what, the 80 something million?

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    He's proven himself to be the same ole politician to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    He's proven himself to be the same ole politician to me.
    I bet he is, look I don't doubt he isn't dodgy in many respects - I bet I sleep straighter than what he does!


    Actually I just did a bit more reading about Swift boat veterans, it appears they were existent prior to Kerry having his nomination confirmed. My apologies.

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    I don't care about, or even pay attention to, swift boat veterans or 527s. They are not going to be running our country the next four years.

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    In February, Obama said: "If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."
    That is sad.

    How will the military industry survive?


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