Thread: McCain blowout?

Originally Posted by Johnny W

IMO, most people's minds are already made up as to who they will vote for. There isn't going to be a lot of movement one way or the other. I still think Obama will win, probably by about 3-4 percentage points.

There is a 12-14% undecided, which is normal this far from November.

Originally Posted by Herodotus

Actually there was a bounce after he won the nomination. McCain was leading for awhile in late May (47-44 according to Gallup) and then Obama got a 6-7 point lead on him. It's down to 4 points now, but still that is quite a swing against McCain.

No surprise there. Hillary's supporters are moving over to Obama now. I'd rather see McCain trail right now.

Originally Posted by JAD_333

No surprise there. Hillary's supporters are moving over to Obama now. I'd rather see McCain trail right now.

Oh please yall. Obama even threw the Muslims under his bus yesterday. This guy is saying and doing anything to get elected. Sound familiar?

Originally Posted by Julie

Oh please yall. Obama even threw the Muslims under his bus yesterday. This guy is saying and doing anything to get elected. Sound familiar?

Every candidate does that to some degree or another. It's just a matter of how fake they look doing so. Anyway it's all but over now. Obama is foregoing public funding, McCain isn't. Obama will outraise and outspend McCain. That affords Obama the leeway to spend lots of money on "safe states" for the GOP; Arizona, Texas, Georgia, and that forces McCain to spend money in those states and not in the swing states.

Things could change, but Obama's money advantage can overcome most of those "things". Barring some huge slip-up by Obama, or a very, very negatitve campaign by McCain, (which are both unlikely) it's a safe bet that Obama will be the next president.

Originally Posted by Herodotus

Every candidate does that to some degree or another. It's just a matter of how fake they look doing so. Anyway it's all but over now. Obama is foregoing public funding, McCain isn't. Obama will outraise and outspend McCain. That affords Obama the leeway to spend lots of money on "safe states" for the GOP; Arizona, Texas, Georgia, and that forces McCain to spend money in those states and not in the swing states.

Things could change, but Obama's money advantage can overcome most of those "things". Barring some huge slip-up by Obama, or a very, very negatitve campaign by McCain, (which are both unlikely) it's a safe bet that Obama will be the next president.

So you're saying the winner will be the richest man?

Originally Posted by glyn

So you're saying the winner will be the richest man?

Technically McCain is "richer" than Obama since his wife has hundreds of millions of dollars.

I'm saying though that when Obama's money is combined with his message of change from an historically unpopular incumbent, the incumbent party's candidate is hard-pressed to make up ground. How does McCain make up ground? Obama has a better orgainzation, more money, and a deeper message that resonates with the American people--that's why he will win.

McCain may have had a chance if it was a level playing field or if he had more money, now that is an impossibilty.

Seems like it's just another case of the Black Man keeping an old Whitey down.

No Old Country Buffet, No Peace!

-dale

Originally Posted by Herodotus

Every candidate does that to some degree or another. It's just a matter of how fake they look doing so. Anyway it's all but over now. Obama is foregoing public funding, McCain isn't. Obama will outraise and outspend McCain. That affords Obama the leeway to spend lots of money on "safe states" for the GOP; Arizona, Texas, Georgia, and that forces McCain to spend money in those states and not in the swing states.

Things could change, but Obama's money advantage can overcome most of those "things". Barring some huge slip-up by Obama, or a very, very negatitve campaign by McCain, (which are both unlikely) it's a safe bet that Obama will be the next president.

I don't recall any campaign year that has seen so much emphasis put on the money race. But I wonder how voters are going to react to it being taken for granted they will elect the candidate with more money to spend. By rejecting public financing, Obama has made it clear that he expects to raise more money than the $80M FEC limit to which McCain will be subject. Implicit in that is the belief that money is key to winning. Will many voters rebel at that notion and vote for the underdog? Could be.

Great, Obama will buy his Presidency? Is that change we can believe in, or the same ole politics? Let us not forget, greed is what lost Democrats control the last time, remember? I noticed when they kicked Hillary to the curb like they did, it was the dollar signs in their eyes blinding them. You could almost see them salivating in their press conferences.

When Obama said he would not use public funding for his election, as McCain had committed to do, that told me he was going to buy his presidency, which confirmed everything I had suspected all along.

With that said, I removed myself from the DNC membership list today, and they will have to show me they have cleaned up their act before I will ever return.

Money can't buy you love people, and I happen to love my country very much. Therefore I will be voting country over party.

Originally Posted by Julie

Great, Obama will buy his Presidency? Is that change we can believe in, or the same ole politics? Let us not forget, greed is what lost Democrats control the last time, remember? I noticed when they kicked Hillary to the curb like they did, it was the dollar signs in their eyes blinding them. You could almost see them salivating in their press conferences.

When Obama said he would not use public funding for his election, as McCain had committed to do, that told me he was going to buy his presidency, which confirmed everything I had suspected all along.

With that said, I removed myself from the DNC membership list today, and they will have to show me they have cleaned up their act before I will ever return.

Money can't buy you love people, and I happen to love my country very much. Therefore I will be voting country over party.

You're exactly the type of person I was talking about. Someone who isn't comfortable with a candidate buying the election. I think that hurt Romney a bit...that $27 mil he threw into the kitty. Much will be made of McCain having the money disadvantage. Hey, we have an opening in our county GOP committee. Come and join.)

Originally Posted by JAD_333

You're exactly the type of person I was talking about. Someone who isn't comfortable with a candidate buying the election. I think that hurt Romney a bit...that $27 mil he threw into the kitty. Much will be made of McCain having the money disadvantage. Hey, we have an opening in our county GOP committee. Come and join.)

I've already joined McCain's website. Citizens for McCain.....country over party.

Originally Posted by Julie

I've already joined McCain's website. Citizens for McCain.....country over party.

I've been on it since day 1, even when they didn't have enough money to turn out the lights. It's an ok site...check out the tour of the bus and get the flavor of how cocky advancemen are.

PS: they'll hound you for money...

Originally Posted by JAD_333

I've been on it since day 1, even when they didn't have enough money to turn out the lights. It's an ok site...check out the tour of the bus and get the flavor of how cocky advancemen are.

PS: they'll hound you for money...

Don't they all ?

Doh ! ...... Are you Jon B on his site ??

I have a question about John McCain and his eligibility to be president, it’s an honest question I am not inferring anything. The Constitution says a citizen has to be “natural-born”, I always took that to mean born in the incorporated territory of the United States; basically states. No President has ever been born outside of a state. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone to a US Navy officer making him a citizen by blood.

Incidentally, my sister was born in Iceland when my dad was stationed there, she was of course a US citizen by blood but she is not eligible to be President since it was not US territory. There is some debate whether Puerto Ricans are eligible to become President, or Filipinos who were born in the Philippines during the earlier part of this century since neither territory was made into a US state.

So if being born overseas to a Naval officer does not grant a person the right to be President, and if being born in the unincorporated territory of the US is no guarantee either of the right to be President, then can McCain really be eligible to be President? I’m not a legal expert, I am just looking for some clarification on the law.