Thread: McCain blowout?

Originally Posted by Herodotus

I don't think people are giving away their rent, or milk money.

I have worked on enough campaigns to be able to assure you that some people are, indeed, giving away money they need for the basics of life. They do it willingly because they believe in the candidate or issue, and they want to participate in the process instead of merely being spectators.

The elderly, and working poor are especially prone to doing this. I suspect that (hopefully) being part of a winning team makes them feel like they have taken a measure of control over their future.

Originally Posted by JAD_333

Will do, thx.

I found this link:

http://www.kabc.com/Article.asp?id=651414

Older clips from Larry Elder show. They look to be about 1 week old. I heard the audio clip on 6-23, so it might show up on 6-30. It was the 4th hour of his 6-30 show, roughly 20 min in.

Originally Posted by Herodotus

Fair enough, fifteen point lead for Obama, guess the people have decided this is a non-issue: Obama Leads McCain by 15 Points as Voters Reject Republicans - Yahoo! News

Never count your chickens until your eggs have hatched. I have seen leads bigger than that evaporate. It's a long haul till November and anything can happen. Just ask Hillary.

Tell that to Armstorng Williams and JC Watts, who are ideologically opposed to Obama yet are still struggling with the decision whether to vote for him or not.

It's understandably tough for them. Sooner or later the ice will break and a black American will be elected president. Maybe they don't want to miss this chance. Next time they may be more apt to decide on their ideology.

A lot of people are getting excited about politics for the first time because of Obama, generating enthuasim in the youth (who typically are not involved in politics) and minorities (who sometimes have a mistrust in the system).

That's a good thing. I saw it happen when John Kennedy and then Eugene McCarthy ran. Reagan also sparked the same enthusiasm.

I was not initally a supporter of Obama's (and I still may vote for Barr), but he will be the next President, so one should be prepared for the inevitable. Plus I do think it will be a step forward for the US if he is elected.
McCain is a nice guy, honorable service, and good senator, but he isn't going to be president.

In the words of Coach Motta of the old Washington Bullets, "It ain't over until the fat lady sings."

In the words of Coach Motta of the old Washington Bullets, "It ain't over until the fat lady sings."

I thought that was Yogi Berra. Anyway it isn't 100 percent certain Obama will win, since nothing is certain, but if I had to bet a tin of butter cookies I'd put it on Obama. )

Originally Posted by Herodotus

I thought that was Yogi Berra. Anyway it isn't 100 percent certain Obama will win, since nothing is certain, but if I had to bet a tin of butter cookies I'd put it on Obama. )

Trust me; it was Motta. Anyway, I am not ready to bet on who'll win in Nov. I've called every election right since Truman upset Dewey, even if on occasion it was after the election. As Yogi said, "it's like deja vu all over again."

Originally Posted by Johnny W
I do want to point out that from what I read, that poll has a slight problem. 39% of its respondents were democrats, 22% were republicans and 27% were independents. It seems as if they just used the Los Angeles phone book to conduct the poll. If those numbers are true, then the only suprise is that Obama's lead wasn't any bigger than it was.

That poll is essentially worthless.

Johnny,

I read the article and I can not find anywhere the figures in red, do you have a link to a different article that you got those numbers from?

In this national poll's random sample of voters, 39% identified themselves as Democrats, 22% as Republicans, and 27% as independents. In a similar poll a year ago, 33% identified themselves as Democrats, 28% as Republicans, and 30% as independents

Obama holds 12-point lead over McCain, poll finds - Los Angeles Times

In fairness there are more registered Democrats in the country than Republicans. This Newsweek poll had a similar margin: Newsweek Poll Methodology | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com and similar numbers of registered Republicans and Democrats. The enthuasim is there on the Democratic side, and not so much on the Republican.

Originally Posted by JAD_333

That's a good thing. I saw it happen when John Kennedy and then Eugene McCarthy ran. Reagan also sparked the same enthusiasm.

All the candidates visited my high school. Usually, the Secret Service agents were cynical or indifferent to their candidates. I used to talk to the SS guys to get their take on the protectee, as they had a lot of insight. Reagan was the only one whose Secret Service detail held him in high regard. The first agent I asked about Reagan told me "He's the real deal," and the agent next to him nodded. I went to the campaign HQ that afternoon and realized what they meant. I wound up volunteering for the campaign. Obama didn't have SS yet when I met him, so I wasn't able to get that perspective.

Originally Posted by GraniteForge

All the candidates visited my high school. Usually, the Secret Service agents were cynical or indifferent to their candidates. I used to talk to the SS guys to get their take on the protectee, as they had a lot of insight. Reagan was the only one whose Secret Service detail held him in high regard. The first agent I asked about Reagan told me "He's the real deal," and the agent next to him nodded. I went to the campaign HQ that afternoon and realized what they meant. I wound up volunteering for the campaign. Obama didn't have SS yet when I met him, so I wasn't able to get that perspective.

You know, that's interesting. I was an advanceman the year the SS started protecting candidates. It was right after JFK was assasinated. I also worked for Reagan, the administration that is. I was in a holding room in a downtown Washington hotel when he came in with his detail cutting up and laughing with them about something. You could tell they liked him. His SS handle was Rawhide or sometimes DFW, Defender of the Free World. With Hillary it was just the opposite; she cussed her detail, made them carry her bags when they weren't supposed to...they all wanted transfers. Everytime I saw her on TV smiling and making nice, all I could think of was how she treated her detail.

If you are an Obama supporter watch out where you park. A little campaign humor from Fla...

Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting. Well, for example, the other day I went downtown and into a shop. I was only there for about 5 minutes and when I came out there was a cop writing out a parking ticket. I said to him, "Come on, man, how about giving a retired person a break?" He ignored me and continued writing the ticket. I called him a "Nazi."
He glared at me and wrote another ticket for having worn tires. So I
called him a "doughnut eating Gestapo." He finished the second ticket
and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he wrote a third
ticket. This went on for about 20 minutes.

The more I abused him the more tickets he wrote. Personally, I didn't
care. I came downtown on the bus, and the car that he was putting the tickets on had a bumper sticker that said "Obama in '08."
I try to have a little fun each day now that I'm retired. It's important
to my health.

Originally Posted by JAD_333

You know, that's interesting. I was an advanceman the year the SS started protecting candidates. It was right after JFK was assasinated. I also worked for Reagan, the administration that is. I was in a holding room in a downtown Washington hotel when he came in with his detail cutting up and laughing with them about something. You could tell they liked him. His SS handle was Rawhide or sometimes DFW, Defender of the Free World. With Hillary it was just the opposite; she cussed her detail, made them carry her bags when they weren't supposed to...they all wanted transfers. Everytime I saw her on TV smiling and making nice, all I could think of was how she treated her detail.

When Reagan died, I was working at Ft. Eustis. I tried to get up to D.C. to see him lying in state, but was unable to shake the time loose. I will always regret that.

I visited the Soviet Union while Carter was in office, and they just ran roughshod over America. But they were scared sh1tless of Reagan. They took his measure and knew that he meant what he said.

I had a cousin in Poland who built a new house, and he couldn't get any glass for his windows. It was rationed out to newlyweds and those under 30, and since he wasn't either, he was on a many-years waiting list. This is a guy worked at a glass factory (albeit crystal, not window glass), was a communist party member of some standing, even owned a car, and he couldn't get frickin windows for his house. He had to make do with a sort of heavy waxed brown paper. After Reagan took office and he had some time to make his policies felt in the Eastern Bloc, it was suddenly "Comrade, someone must have been making a joke at your expense. With the help of the Party, our economy produces a large surplus of such glass. You can pick yours up any time." No more waiting list.

The longer Reagan was in office, and every time he did something like having the Navy bump ships with the Sovs on freedom of navigation exercises, the nicer the Soviets got to my relatives. All sorts of "luxury" goods became available. My great aunt got her straw roof replaced with corrugated metal. They loved Reagan - even the communists - for sticking it to the Sovs.

Originally Posted by JAD_333

If you are an Obama supporter watch out where you park. A little campaign humor from Fla...

heh... seen that one before.

Originally Posted by GraniteForge

I visited the Soviet Union while Carter was in office, and they just ran roughshod over America. But they were scared sh1tless of Reagan. They took his measure and knew that he meant what he said.

Carter is a buffoon. The world knows it except for Jimmy himself and the American left.

Originally Posted by GraniteForge

I had a cousin in Poland who built a new house, and he couldn't get any glass for his windows. It was rationed out to newlyweds and those under 30, and since he wasn't either, he was on a many-years waiting list. This is a guy worked at a glass factory (albeit crystal, not window glass), was a communist party member of some standing, even owned a car, and he couldn't get frickin windows for his house. He had to make do with a sort of heavy waxed brown paper. After Reagan took office and he had some time to make his policies felt in the Eastern Bloc, it was suddenly "Comrade, someone must have been making a joke at your expense. With the help of the Party, our economy produces a large surplus of such glass. You can pick yours up any time." No more waiting list.

How the hell does anyone run low on glass? It's sand! We don't even ration water and I live in a desert with an ongoing drought.

Originally Posted by GraniteForge

The longer Reagan was in office, and every time he did something like having the Navy bump ships with the Sovs on freedom of navigation exercises, the nicer the Soviets got to my relatives. All sorts of "luxury" goods became available. My great aunt got her straw roof replaced with corrugated metal. They loved Reagan - even the communists - for sticking it to the Sovs.

Why would the Soviets do that when Reagan sticks it to them? Just because they could say "hey we weren't all that bad to these people" should they get their asses kicked in a war?

Originally Posted by GraniteForge

When Reagan died, I was working at Ft. Eustis. I tried to get up to D.C. to see him lying in state, but was unable to shake the time loose. I will always regret that.

I visited the Soviet Union while Carter was in office, and they just ran roughshod over America. But they were scared sh1tless of Reagan. They took his measure and knew that he meant what he said.

I had a cousin in Poland who built a new house, and he couldn't get any glass for his windows. It was rationed out to newlyweds and those under 30, and since he wasn't either, he was on a many-years waiting list. This is a guy worked at a glass factory (albeit crystal, not window glass), was a communist party member of some standing, even owned a car, and he couldn't get frickin windows for his house. He had to make do with a sort of heavy waxed brown paper. After Reagan took office and he had some time to make his policies felt in the Eastern Bloc, it was suddenly "Comrade, someone must have been making a joke at your expense. With the help of the Party, our economy produces a large surplus of such glass. You can pick yours up any time." No more waiting list.

The longer Reagan was in office, and every time he did something like having the Navy bump ships with the Sovs on freedom of navigation exercises, the nicer the Soviets got to my relatives. All sorts of "luxury" goods became available. My great aunt got her straw roof replaced with corrugated metal. They loved Reagan - even the communists - for sticking it to the Sovs.

Enjoyed the annedotes about your Polish relatives and Reagan I agree with you about Reagan. His critics would at times say that he was just an empty suit with no original ideas--an amiable figurehead. It's easy to put the lie to that by reading the transcripts he wrote for his radio show sponsored by RCA long before he became president. I have the whole collection including his edits, and it puts the lie to those critics. It should have been no surprise to them when he took office that he intended to confront the Soviets and commuunism. I was detailed to the WH from DoD along with folks from State and other agencies to work on the public document justifying the huge military buildup he planned.

The plan unfolded like clockwork confounding the Soviets, who had spent the previous 8 years in a massive effort to overtake US military superiority and nearly succeeded. Once Congress voted the huge increase in military spending that Reagan campaigned on, things moved fast in the military procurement area and then came Star Wars. The Soviets command economy simply couldn't keep up and that led directly to the breakup of the Soviet Union.

When I think of Reagan and his steadfastness in the face of US enemies, I cringe to think of what Obama will do to--dare I say appease--no, I'll say, mollify them. Although Reagan had a winning smile and an amiable manner, he didn't confuse charm with policy. Obama has attractive personal traits as well, but the difference is, he thinks charm will work as policy. Else, why would he believe that unconditional talks with the likes of A-jad, Chavez and others would produce desired results? But I stray...

Here's a video about Obama making the rounds of Republican envelop stuffers. Nothing new. I post here just for comment. Personally, these sort of thumping videos aren't to my taste, but they do raise valid questions.

Eyeblast.tv - A Video Portrait Of Barack Hussein Obama