Thread: How the minimum wage works

Originally Posted by ba1025

I registered as non affiliated

LOL yes Democrats are intrinsically bad

Hey I'm a registered Democrat...

Originally Posted by ba1025

I used "Bush" like I would use "Borked". He has presided over a particularly ineffective Federal Government. It isn't him per se it's the crony management style i was referring too. This is a discussion of the minimum wage not healthcare.

I agree. Bush's domestic policies have been atrocious. He increased the welfare government exponentially and spent money like a drunken Ted Kennedy.

Originally Posted by ba1025

My point was while your taxes have increased as a percentile corporate taxes have dropped so no crying wolf business can't afford to pay an extra nickel in minimum wage because of their increased tax burden. If it's because they deserve to be able to pay as little as possible and you don't believe it's the right of the government to set a minimum wage fine. That's really the only argument I see as having a thin leg to stand on All the other arguments against raising it are thin.
I am registered non affiliated I vote for individuals I refuse to surrender my liberty to the tyranny of a party...as those who rail against democrats or republicans because they are one or the other have. my ancestors bled for that liberty I won't give it away so cheaply I pity those who follow party not country

But where is this obligation to pay a certain percentage of tax come from? Government should be out of people's way to encourage a stable environment for business. People, not government, know how best to spend their money. Those who spend it wisely shall get ahead and those who waste it shall fall behind, or perish, unless they can learn the lesson or find someone nice enough to help them out.

The current atmosphere is government will not let us fail so we make decisions based maximum risk for maximum return because that maximum risk has been mitigated by the federal government.

Originally Posted by gunnut

I agree. Bush's domestic policies have been atrocious. He increased the welfare government exponentially and spent money like a drunken Ted Kennedy.



But where is this obligation to pay a certain percentage of tax come from? Government should be out of people's way to encourage a stable environment for business. People, not government, know how best to spend their money. Those who spend it wisely shall get ahead and those who waste it shall fall behind, or perish, unless they can learn the lesson or find someone nice enough to help them out.

The current atmosphere is government will not let us fail so we make decisions based maximum risk for maximum return because that maximum risk has been mitigated by the federal government.

First off a Drunken Ted Kennedy would probably take the car out and well...


I have np with your sentiments. There is no obligation to pay taxes beyond this one imo. We are spending the money. As long as we are spending it i believe we have an obligation to not pass the bill on to future generations. I also believe it is disengenious to cry corporations pay to much in taxes when their tax burden has dropped by two thirds in relation to mine. i dont want to pay any taxes but as long as govt spends money i believe I am obligated too pay taxes

Originally Posted by ba1025

First off a Drunken Ted Kennedy would probably take the car out and well...


I have np with your sentiments. There is no obligation to pay taxes beyond this one imo. We are spending the money. As long as we are spending it i believe we have an obligation to not pass the bill on to future generations. I also believe it is disengenious to cry corporations pay to much in taxes when their tax burden has dropped by two thirds in relation to mine. i dont want to pay any taxes but as long as govt spends money i believe I am obligated too pay taxes

But don't we have an obligation to keep the government from spending too much in the first place? Make sure the essentials (as specified in the constitution) are financed first and then cut the rest. What business does the federal government have in "housing and urban development?" Why does the department of health and human services consume more than 1/4 of the federal budget?

Corporate tax cuts are more than yours because they pay more to begin with. It's the same as the "rich" getting a bigger tax cut than the poor because they pay so much more in percentages and raw amount to begin with.

Originally Posted by gunnut

But don't we have an obligation to keep the government from spending too much in the first place? Make sure the essentials (as specified in the constitution) are financed first and then cut the rest. What business does the federal government have in "housing and urban development?" Why does the department of health and human services consume more than 1/4 of the federal budget?

Corporate tax cuts are more than yours because they pay more to begin with. It's the same as the "rich" getting a bigger tax cut than the poor because they pay so much more in percentages and raw amount to begin with.

No corporations don't pay more than wage earners.

yes i do which is why i think teh govt should limit spending to near what it collects. i think it bordered on criminal to cut taxes the way and as much as we did when we are at war and it is a national emergency. Citizens have an obligation to sacrifice as well as soldiers in a time of crisis. being told to go to the mall isnt a sacrifice.

The last 7 years have not been conservative at all inrelation to the previous 6. the 94 conservative congress and a moderate President did much better than the so called conservatives from 2000-2006.
Here is where it goes and where its from. i think you have some bad sources
Where the Money Comes From — and Where it Goes